Dems jettison pro-life Dems; will pass ObamaCare without them

Fox News Channel | 3/12/10

[pabianice]

Shepard Smith reporting... Rep. Hoyer quoted as saying Pelosi has decided to pitch pro-life Dems over the side and pass Obamacare without them... unknown how they will get the votes... still rumors of parliamentary tricks to pass a bill for which they do not have the votes.

[B4Ranch]

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” — Author Unknown

[gathersnomoss]

...yep, you are correct. I believe that everyone is beyond the point of no return.

[PghBaldy]

I’m not so sure. Reid and Pelosi are set for life (even if they lose office, they can have cushy lobbyist jobs easy), as are are other powerful legislators. The others, I’m not so sure about. There seems to be a disconnect between the congressional leaders and “peons” in Congress. I hope the peopns there relaize it.

[gathersnomoss]

don’t forget that.

[chilltherats]

Yep. As long as nobody stands up and requests a quorum call, they can vote as long as 25 (or is it 25%?) of the people there will agree to take the vote. If she only calls in her “sure” votes, she can do it. None of them will request a quorum. She knows people will be outraged if they were to pass it this way (tyranny) but they just don’t care. It’s do or die.

The only way to stop it is to have at least one of the good guys there 24/7 to call for a quorum count. But I think she can still get away with it if, say, the House is still in session but they’re not around to answer the quorum bells because they’re on their way out of town for Easter break. Not sure. I hope someone in the House is watching this very carefully.

[arthurus]

He has lasted a year as a foreigner in the Presidency. I think you give way too much credit to a poplation that has learned its history in the public schools for three or four generations now.

[chilltherats]

What I’d like to see happen is for about three of these hard-core rat “No” voters from conservatives districts to keep hemming and hawwing and wheeling and dealing and eventually tell them, “Okay, you have my vote.” Then vote “No” when the vote is taken. Sucker punch the bastards. They would be assured re-election and would be heroes. Then they could just change parties since the rats would strip them of all their committees and punish them in other ways. It’s a win-win-win scenario.

[1951Boomer]

“Then vote ‘No’ when the vote is taken”

I’ve often wondered why they don’t use the leadership’s own tactics against them and do just that—vote no after leading them on to believe that they will vote yes. And like you, I’d like to see them switch to the Repub. side so that they can’t be retaliated against. We need to pray that God will intervene and create even more chaos, strife, and infighting among the Dems. At this point, it looks inevitable that some rule or ploy WILL be created to bulldoze this through.

[GailA]

Doesn’t matter, they have to pass the SENATE version first, then it will be HAND carried to the WH for obambi to sign into law. Keep those phones ringing, even if your rep is a republican call them and tell them in no uncertain terms HELL NO to any health care bill.

IF you believe that I’ve a prime piece of ocean front property in the GOBI desert to sell at a reasonable price.

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.

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Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts

[Varsity Flight]

+++ The tyrants see health care as the means to controlling our behavior. For instance, gun ownership can be re-defined as a health care issue. The CDC has already tried this once.
Politicians see it as issue to be exploited for the foreseeable future Vote for me and Ill give you MORE FREE HEALTH CARE! and My opponent wants to CUT your health care! +++++++

ANYTHING can be brought under a “definition” of for “health,” about “health”, about “BEHAVIOR.”, ANYTHING THAT WE USE. That’s the plan. Control of the assets, and control of the bank accts. Debit anything, anytime, at others expense, and not their own.

These people are right on the edge, if not already, of breaking due process of the law. Lawlessness.

[Retired Greyhound]

I appreciate your optimism, but I see no way that they don’t get this passed. They will stop at nothing, and they have at east another six months.

It will take a miracle at this point.

(However, all is not lost. Expect court challenges and 10th Amendment assertions galore).

[Chuckster]

In the US, the prez will not get away with ruling by decree. That’s his Chavez option - and it’s about all he’s got left - which is scary... but I don’t think it will work in the US - i don’t think he’d last 24 hours after trying it. JMHO.

It will never work - any sane person can see that. I'll give even money he tries it, but.

[Cheerio]

i think it’s dead.

Disagree - this man-child and his MARXISTS in Congress are just like crack cocaine addicts. They must have this bill in order to consolidate their power over us little people and they are going to do everything and anything to make it happen. You have already witnessed the tricks and circumventions of the Constitution and Congressional rules - they will find more tricks. A President does not rearrange overseas travel just on a whim - he knows he is going to have it in his hands shortly. How every many RATS have to fall on the swords is of no concern of his - face on Mt Rushmore is much more important and to be remembered like FDR and JFK. That is all the matters. The rest of us can just go to hell - we don't know what is good for us. /sarc

[hoagy62]

Hmm...the way it sounds, it’d seem the problem won’t be solved unless we get rid of the people that VOTED for Obummer.

Or am I reading that wrong? I hope I am.

[JustSurrounded]

A President does not rearrange overseas travel just on a whim - he knows he is going to have it in his hands shortly.

I pray he's just making the same Olympic/Climate Conference sort of ego-centric mistake.

[Cheerio]

I pray he's just making the same Olympic/Climate Conference sort of ego-centric mistake.

Prayer is about all we have left - no body in D.C. listening to any of us.

[Theodore R.]

They listened on Nov. 4, 2008, when they got the results they wanted. The American people won’t ever figure out what they did to themselves.

[Marty62]

OK SOOOOO, the Gruppenfuhrer has aborted the Blue-Dogs.

[SeattleBruce]

Wow, they’re counting votes so many different ways, my head is bobbin’ around like I’m givin’ a MAO-bama telepromter speech.

[Frank_2001]

“Pelosi has made it official:the Democratic Party favors death for its members(and everybody ).”

Except cop killers, axe murderers, serial killers, etc!/s