Posted on 03/12/2010 11:55:21 AM PST by 198ml
Don Imus, for one, is not surprised by Tom Hanks' recent comments calling WWII and the War on Terrorism racist crusades undertaken by the United States.
First brought to his attention by "Imus in the Morning" producer Bernard McGuirk on the show, the remarks were news to the host - just not shocking news.
"Oh darn, what a surprise. We have another panty-wearing liberal dickweed from Hollywood - of course!" Imus told McGuirk.
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Although “Gump” was great at moments—like the maggot-infested, dope-smoking creep blaming “Johnson and this war” for his beating his girlfriend—it was a lefty film. The moral was: The patriotic heroes Americans admire most are really retards stumbling into glory.
We fought the war with a segregated military. Only a few black soldiers were permitted to see combat.
We interned in camps West Coast Japanese-Americans but did not intern German or Italian-Americans. We restricted Japanese-American troops to the European theater.
Although you can identify logical reasons for both the fact is we used nukes and flamethrowers against the Japanese.
That is not to throw bricks at our folks. It was a different era. It was a tough, brutal war in the Pacific, IMHO primarily because of Japanese war crimes and abuse of prisoners. Our vets deserve all honors we can give them.
I'm just saying Hanks isn't out in liberal la-la land by pointing out that this history is like most other not a black and white narrative, the saints we have canonized weren't always saints all the time and the demons we have demonized weren't all bad all the time. That's history.
It disgusts me now to think that one of my favorite lines from that film was uttered by this disgraceful Tom Hanks creature:
I think you should go home to Greenbow, Ala-BAM-a!, said to Jenny but with a sneer to the filthy hippie.
ACtually, we did intern Germans and Italians, just not German and Italian Americans. this led t omany refugees from the Nazis being originally placed with them, at least for a few weeks. And as bad as it sounds today, the truth is that many Japanese-Americans belonged to Japanese nationalist organizations and many did aid Japan.
The biggest concentration of Japanese-Americans was in Hawaii, but they weren't interned because it wasn't practical, the population was too big and too important for that economy.
There was no problem of sabotage or disloyalty among Hawaiian Japanese-Americans. In fact, the vast majority of the Nisei soldiers, honored for their heroism in battle, came from Hawaii.
Hanks has accussed the United States and our military of wanting to destroy Japan because of their race, which is an out-and-out lie. Were racist words used? You bet. But, prior to Dec 7, 1941 there was zero desire on the part of the U.S. to engage in the destruction of Japan simply because of race. And, this point of his has nothing to do with how the war was prosecuted with respect to race issues.
With respect to the use of flamethrowers, if I’m not mistaken, Japan was using them prior to our entering the war. There is no point to using this in this discussion.
When a country is engaged in battle against a determine enemy that vowed to fight to the last man, woman, and child, you don’t prosecute the war with kid gloves. And, then, decades later, you don’t try to engage in a revisionist re-writing of the war in order to make brownie points with your fellow liberal idiots. The only thing this type of revisionism provides is fodder to our current enemies to recruit members using this BS as a rallying cry against this tyrannical nation (the U.S.) - this crap is used by our current enemies to be able to say, “see, even their own people say the U.S. is evil. This is what Hanks is attempting to do and I find it disgusting.
Piece of trash.
Go pick up Michelle Malkin's "In Defense of Internment" and send it to Hanks when you are finished.
I don't get that from his comment.
I also don't think looking at this history honestly helps our enemies. In my opinion, it exposes the hypocrisy of modern day liberal critics of our military. The fact is if the WWII troops were put under the same microscope our troops today are and had to fight under 2010 rules of engagement we would have put thousands of The Greatest Generation in jail or lost the war or both. After our troops saw how few prisoners the Japanese took and how those were mistreated, we took a lot less ourselves. Darn few German prisoners were taken in the Bulge after word of the Malmedy Massacre got out. War is hell and we ought to recognize that and quit trying to pretend it isn't.
I don’t see Yankees apologising for General Sherman. You fight to win.
Tom Hanks needs to read “The rape of Nanking.” He will find out that the Japanese are a breed apart from Americans. He might want to read up on the Baatan Death March and the occupation of the Phillipines to find out what kind of scum the Japanese were in 1941. The American public was right to revile the Japanese and consider them sub-human. The Japs have the the records and they have been recorded in the history book of atrocity towards their fellow humans.
I can’t find it. But, I recall when it was done how pissed I was.
You have some reason to dislike flame throwers? How else where we going to get them out of the caves. The marines that where the firemen had one of the toughest jobs to do. Jump in front of a cave opening and let the barbecue begin. My dad was a fireman, said the first one he did he got sick, after he found out what the Japs did to prisoners he didn’t get sick at all. I found out about this many years after he returned to the states with one of his legs destroyed. So flame throwers are good and the firemen that used them where all heroes.
Did you even know that the detachment of soldiers sent to Niihau to arrest the perps were a detachment from the 299th Infantry of the Hawaii National Guard, mostly Nisei??? And that regiment later became part of the legendary 442nd Regimental Combat Team??? Yeah, a real hotbed of disloyalty over there alright.
I am a Michelle Malkin fan, but the fact is her book is shoddy history. She tried to draw an analogy from the WWII internments to use of racial profiling in what used to be called the GWOT that just isn't there. Her book relies heavily on an earlier work by David Lowman that itself was exposed as shoddy history by a preeminent Army historian.
You may want to read the history of the Nisei and compare that to your pathetic example of the two benighted Niihauans. You may want to read what Governor Ralph Carr said when he invited Japanese-Americans to settle in Colorado. Many took him up on it and some became very distinguished citizens after the War. You may want to look into all the property that was effectively stolen from many internees by their American neighbors.
In short, do some basic research before making assertions.
And you know nothing of me or my education which is why you made ignorant, wrongheaded assertions about me. You want to compare history credentials, I'm ready.
I didn't even bring up the whole issue of US intelligence learing of Japanese spying though use of the MAGIC transcripts because thsi informatio is hearder to find.
am a Michelle Malkin fan, but the fact is her book is shoddy history. She tried to draw an analogy from the WWII internments to use of racial profiling in what used to be called the GWOT that just isn't there. Her book relies heavily on an earlier work by David Lowman that itself was exposed as shoddy history by a preeminent Army historian.
She had other sources. And if you knew her work, you would know abiout this incident and the MAGIC transcripts.
And you know nothing of me or my education which is why you made ignorant, wrongheaded assertions about me. You want to compare history credentials, I'm ready.
I helped take down Michael Bellesiles. What have you done?
They are a brutal weapon and a painful way to go. But, I have no criticism that they were used in WWII. I'm just pointing out that they were used extensively in the Pacific, but much less so in Europe.
My dad was a fireman, said the first one he did he got sick, after he found out what the Japs did to prisoners he didn’t get sick at all.
I understand. As I implied, the Japanese brought this on themselves in large part.
A couple of good recent books on mistreatment of prisoners are Flyboys, about pilots captured near Iwo Jima, and Ghost Soldiers, which involves the raid on the Cabanatuan prison camp.
That's what I said, IF you bothered to read it. Two guys helped that pilot, one of whom had a wife who acquiesced. The rest of the island did not support them. In fact, before the troops arrived the islanders had killed the pilot, one of the guys was dead and the other detained. It's really pathetic you would use this as justification for the Japanese internments. And you have never responded to the disconnect that this incident in Hawaii was used not to justify internments in Hawaii, but on the West Coast. The Hawaiian Japanese-Americans were never interned, so this incident didn't worry the Pacific commanders much. Of course I can understand why you continue to dodge the subject of the Nisei.
I didn't even bring up the whole issue of US intelligence learing of Japanese spying though use of the MAGIC transcripts because thsi informatio is hearder to find.
First, learn to spell. Second, if you read the Malkin book you'd know MAGIC intercepts were a primary basis of her conclusion.
She had other sources. And if you knew her work, you would know abiout this incident and the MAGIC transcripts.
Learn to spell. And I guess you do want to talk about MAGIC. The intercepts are irrelevant to the internment issue. First, they only establish the Japanese wanted to build an espionage network in the Nisei community. Duh. As if we didn't know that already. What is missing from the intercepts is any evidence they were actually succeeding, which they did not. Second, the intercepts were not known by the people who directed the internments. The people who did know about them, very, very few, never cited them as a basis. Third, as Dr. James McNaughton pointed out, the raw MAGIC intercepts were of poor intelligence value on the subject of any U.S. espionage network and no basis to intern the entire West Coast Japanese-American population.
I helped take down Michael Bellesiles. What have you done?
Don't be too full of yourself. I credit you for creating some buzz about the fraud, but others took him down.
What have I done? I actually have a degree in history and have been a lifetime student of military history.
Read Annie Coulter’s Treason!
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