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Defectors Say Church of Scientology Hides Abuse
NY Slimes ^ | 6 March 10 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Posted on 03/07/2010 9:48:45 AM PST by SkyPilot

CLEARWATER, Fla. — Raised as Scientologists, Christie King Collbran and her husband, Chris, were recruited as teenagers to work for the elite corps of staff members who keep the Church of Scientology running, known as the Sea Organization, or Sea Org.


A portrait of the founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, in a church retreat center in Clearwater, Fla.

They signed a contract for a billion years — in keeping with the church’s belief that Scientologists are immortal. They worked seven days a week, often on little sleep, for sporadic paychecks of $50 a week, at most.

But after 13 years and growing disillusionment, the Collbrans decided to leave the Sea Org, setting off on a Kafkaesque journey that they said required them to sign false confessions about their personal lives and their work, pay the church thousands of dollars it said they owed for courses and counseling, and accept the consequences as their parents, siblings and friends who are church members cut off all communication with them.

“Why did we work so hard for this organization,” Ms. Collbran said, “and why did it feel so wrong in the end? We just didn’t understand.”

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As for the defectors, Mr. Davis called them “apostates” and said that contrary to their claims of having left the church in protest, they were expelled.

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“It was all built on lies,” Mr. Collbran said. “We’re working 16 hours a day trying to save the planet, and the church is shrinking.”

“You’re in fear,” Mr. Collbran said. “You’re so into it, it’s everything you know: your family, your eternity.”

Mr. Davis, the church’s current spokesman, said Scientologists are no different from Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Amish who practice shunning or excommunication.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuse; cults

1 posted on 03/07/2010 9:48:46 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Big ol’ “DUH” here. It’s only been written about since Scientology was conceived.


2 posted on 03/07/2010 9:55:29 AM PST by ronnyquest (That's what governments are for: to get in a man's way.)
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To: SkyPilot

L Ron Hubbard - a raving lunatic when he was alive.


3 posted on 03/07/2010 9:59:12 AM PST by DB
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To: DB

And a pornografic author.


4 posted on 03/07/2010 10:10:21 AM PST by hgro (Jerry Riversd)
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To: SkyPilot

I went with that title last night and the mods changed it to prevent duplicate threads. I guess there is something that Drudge gets that tells him the headline for the article even though at that particular moment last night it said something else on their website.


5 posted on 03/07/2010 10:16:31 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
You're right Rummy. Last night Drudge just had a tip that the article was coming out in this morning's edition of the NY Times.

I am sure the Times lawyers are already gearing up for a Scientology lawsuit. That is the Scientologist's standard practice - sue, threaten to sue, sue to some more, intimidate, and then file suit.

It works sometimes.

The problem for Scientology is that the Internet has been its biggest enemy. Far too much has come out about this cult, and they have not been able to bar the door on the truth.

6 posted on 03/07/2010 11:31:13 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Mr. Davis, the church’s current spokesman, said Scientologists are no different from Mormons, .... who practice shunning or excommunication.
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Plus Scientologists are no different from Mormons in that neither are Christians...


7 posted on 03/07/2010 11:42:22 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SkyPilot

The article is interesting from the perspective of
examining exactly how cults treat their followers.

There are amazing parallels to mormonism.

ampu


8 posted on 03/07/2010 11:42:45 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: SkyPilot
"Mr. Davis, the church’s current spokesman, said Scientologists are no different from Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Amish who practice shunning or excommunication.

“These are common religious tenets,” he said. “The very survival of a religion is contingent on its protecting itself.”

Very interesting comparison Mr. Davies makes here. I've never heard of Catholics doing this though.

"On the pay issue, it says that Sea Org members expect to sacrifice their material well-being to devote their lives to the church."

Again, another parallel to JW's and Mormons that bears a striking similarity to teachings of their churches. Mormons are "encouraged" to give of their "talents" and "means" to the church.

9 posted on 03/07/2010 12:38:26 PM PST by SZonian (*)
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To: SkyPilot


10 posted on 03/07/2010 12:47:04 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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But after 13 years and growing disillusionment, the Collbrans decided to leave the Sea Org, setting off on a Kafkaesque journey that they said required them to sign false confessions about their personal lives and their work, pay the church thousands of dollars it said they owed for courses and counseling, and accept the consequences as their parents, siblings and friends who are church members cut off all communication with them.

“Why did we work so hard for this organization,” Ms. Collbran said, “and why did it feel so wrong in the end? We just didn’t understand.”

As for the defectors, Mr. Davis called them “apostates” and said that contrary to their claims of having left the church in protest, they were expelled.

HMMmm...

Sounds identical to ANOTHER 'church' we hear about a lot on FR.

11 posted on 03/07/2010 1:03:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SkyPilot
That is the Scientologist's standard practice - sue, threaten to sue, sue to some more, intimidate, and then file suit.Sshhh...

Don't say this TOO loud!

12 posted on 03/07/2010 1:05:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Plus Scientologists are no different from Mormons in that neither are Christians...

Both have a science fiction base

13 posted on 03/07/2010 1:44:14 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: SkyPilot
If you want to get rich, you start a religion.
-L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology.

"Rookie"
-Joseph Smith, founder and "prophet" of the Latter Day Saints.


14 posted on 03/07/2010 1:44:30 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: SZonian
I've never heard of Catholics doing this though.

I had the same reaction.

He lumped the Amish in with Scientologists as well. It is not true that the Amish treat their people (who almost all blood relatives) who wish to leave their community the same way as these brutes in Scientology. If they want to leave, they can leave that life and community. I met some airline pilots who had come from Amish communities in Lancaster PA. They were loved by their relatives, and had their blessing. What the Scientologists are doing to any member who wants sheer terror and typical behavior for cults.

Moreover, I wish the Catholic church still excommunicated people. I would love to see some courage by Catholic leaders who would throw out the likes of the Kennedy's, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Joe Biden. The truth is (except for a few examples of great courage), the Catholics let any member get away with almost anything that goes against what the church officially teaches without repercussions.

15 posted on 03/07/2010 1:53:50 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

My understanding is that those not accepting of the Church’s teaching “excommunicate themselves” and formal excommunication is unneeded, at least since Vatican II.


16 posted on 03/07/2010 3:11:10 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Battlestar Galactica: Another Testimony of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
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To: SkyPilot
Mr. Davis, the church’s current spokesman, said Scientologists are no different from Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Amish who practice shunning or excommunication.

wrong, your's is the only cult I know of that plays these types of games!

17 posted on 03/07/2010 3:38:05 PM PST by STD (-Obama's Riding Upon The Pale Horse of Islam)
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To: SkyPilot

I HAD A GOOD FRIEND WHO JOINED THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES. THEY MADE HIS LIFE SO DIFFICULT WHEN HE LEFT THAT HE HAD TO MOVE OUT OF STATE.


18 posted on 03/07/2010 5:05:07 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

Your caps-lock key is stuck.


19 posted on 03/08/2010 7:15:54 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

no, i sometimes do it in either upper or lower case because it’s been hard to type sometimes with my swollen fingers.


20 posted on 03/08/2010 2:57:20 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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