Let's not forget the Queen of gay pop singers:
'Way before their time, Queen recorded a tribute to Michelle Obama: Click here
Posted on 03/06/2010 4:49:52 AM PST by RonDog
In perhaps the worst possible development for the radical left since the discovery of Karl Rove's now infamous "Weather Machine," Governor Palin's recently exposed top secret "laugh track" machine appears to also have even more dastardly powers than were originally feared.In addition to altering the space-time continuum, and reprogramming the master computers at NBC – to cause laughter during Sarah's monologue to appear where none had been before, and send well-intentioned jeers and "groans" from her wannabe stalkers into the abyss – this mysterious device apparently also exerts some kind of irresistible mind control powers over the loyal fans of "American Idol" megastar Adam Lambert, causing many of them to actually like the producer of the upcoming new "Alaska Valley Days" TV series, Governor Sarah Palin.
Or, at least, that's what the Kos Kids would like you to believe.
Many of those wacky ultra-left "conspiracy-mongers" who post at such online cesspools as the Daily Kos, Huffpo and DU have been foaming at the mouth all week about Sarah's "rock star" performance during for last week's taping of "Day Two" of Jay Leno's return to the traditional 11:35 pm time slot for the "Tonight Show."
Since I was actually in the studio audience last week when Governor Palin made her "comedy debut" – with a small band of "Palin palm print"-bearing FReepers (and FRiends) who had crashed the party with the intention of acting as "Ed McMahon" to Sarah's "Johnny Carson" – I call BS on their widely-reported, but easily-debunked, "laugh track" conspiracy theory.
In my not so humble opinion, however, the REAL "back story" behind last week's studio audience, which has naturally NOT been covered in the "State-Controlled Media" – was that a huge percentage of that relatively "pro-Palin" audience last week were "glamberts"– that is, hard core fans of "American Idol" singer Adam Lambert, whom many music lovers view as a contemporary reincarnation of Elvis. (Or, perhaps Liberace.)
In this thread, which will serve as the "after action" report for our recent Leno FReep, I intend to explore this strange – and very unexpected (to me) twist – on the controversial "big tent" philosophy of the new Republican party. And that strange new twist is, many Adam Lambert fans support Sarah Palin!
I am particularly interested in hearing on this thread from ADAM LAMBERT FANS who support Sarah Palin, but I would also like to hear from CONSERVATIVES who may have reservations about welcoming this new group of Palin supporters, many of whom have been NOT previously been engaged (or informed) in the political arena.
Personally, I like the concept of "My tent, my rules."
That is, we welcome the electoral support of just about ANYBODY – but only on OUR terms. I believe that the conservative political movement should be like America itself: everyone is welcome here – IF you agree to certain fundamental, non-negotiable principles.
Please post YOUR comments and opinions about Sarah Palin and the "glamberts" here.
Thank you,
RonDog
No. Sarah is a good conservative, I don't believe she is trying to turn herself into a pop icon. I'm concerned that it's a new media strategy to "devalue" her as a serious politcal candidate. I hope she beats them at their own game though - she's still my number one pick for 2012. And yes, I hope she is just getting this stuff out of the way, building up a good bank account - for a run in 2012.
She's a smart lady, believe it or not, I'm on her side.
Let's not forget that one of the frequent criticisms of her vp candidacy is that no one had ever heard of her. And she still has very young children at home. I think if she wants to coast through the next election cycle and shoot for 2016, that would be fine. In the meantime, I'd love to see her take a major role in energy independence. Hopefully a Republican will win in 2010 and appoint her either to the Cabinet as Secretary of the Interior, or make her Energy Czarina.
That's the device most rock singers use that allows them to keep on key when the music around them is too deafening to hear their own voice. His is decorated to look less like a hearing aid. Innovative... and will be much copied.
bttt.
“I’m concerned that it’s a new media strategy to “devalue” her as a serious politcal candidate”.
This is a valid point and one I would think Sarah already know. I do not want to see Sarah on another late show etc. anytime soon that is for sure. Stick to Fox and such. I just think Sarah is having a little fun now but the window is closing on the “fun” stuff rather soon. Sarah next opportunity to show us if she is serious is her speech at the SLC at the end of April. Another campaign style speech just doesn’t cut it for a event like that.
I’m just dismayed to see Sarah being tied in so closely now to show biz, pop culture and tabloid sensationalism
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It’s too bad but we do need votes to win elections. Just appealing to conservatives and excluding all others won’t get her elected. Ronald Reagan won because he was popular as well as because people liked his ideas. They were open to his ideas because of his popularity.
Staying out of the tabloids is just not possible for Sarah. They will always find something to sensationalize or to make up about her.
Why are the liberals so frightened? They know that her popularity will open up new markets for conservative ideas among their primary constituency, women.
I’m doubtful she can develop gay support, but I could be wrong. One of the most beloved entertainers by gays was Judy Garland. It wasn’t a sexual thing, but rather an admiration of her talent, appearance, demeanor, dress, whatever. I don’t understand it but no doubt that connection existed. It’s possible that something similar could happen with Sarah.
As to her choices, they couldn’t have been better-
1. Resigning - allowed her to avoid bankruptcy and a failed last year and a half due to Alinsky inspired lawsuits. Allowed her to speak her mind on national issues. Allowed her to travel to support candidates, raise money, speak to a wide range of audiences.
2. Writing a book - Writing any book that sells over 2 million copies is a good decision. She made money that she will need in a national campaign. She exposed her side of the story.
3. The Book Tour - Excellent way of assessing the level of grass roots support, and learning about who her likely base of voters would be.
4. The Tonight Show - Conan/Leno are a gateway to the American people who are not “political junkies”. By keeping her appearances only borderline political, she allows people to get to know her as a person.
5. FoxNews - Allows her to give her political views and to showcase issues she supports.
6. Facebook - Great use of modern technology to communicate to supporters and to make policy statements.
7. Endorsements - NY23 had to do it to keep Scuzzi from getting into office and almost succeeded. McCain - Had to endorse. He took her form .01% name recognition to virtually 100% overnight. She campaigned across the country for his election as President. If she said that now he wasn’t fit to be even a senator, she would be seen as a hypocrite. She also has to campaign enthusiastically for him (at least once). On the flip side, an endorsement of his opponent who had Abramoff connections, would be against everything she has stood for since entering politics. Those are political reasons but I don’t think she would see it that way. She would see it as an issue of friendship and loyalty and many voters would see it that way also.
8- Alaska TV Show. We don’t yet know exactly what this is or how it will be received, but something in the vein of the Michael Palin TV series by Sarah about Alaska would be of interest to many.
If you are looking for someone to support, examine the record of their service. She has a record and it’s extensive. So do the other potential candidates. Don’t worry about which TV show she decides to appear on.
Let's not forget the Queen of gay pop singers:
'Way before their time, Queen recorded a tribute to Michelle Obama: Click here
Sarah went on the Tonight Show therefore she doesn't have a plan to run for another office? Really?
And seeing McCain being interviewed by everyone with his sheepish I love liberty hypocrisy immediately brings Sarah and her support of him to mind......
Sarah's support of McCain is a mistake. Can you point out any past or present conservative politicians who haven't made any mistakes?
But every president has been imitated mercilessly. Costume shops are full of Halloween masks of every President since Nixon. Saturday Night Live has played every one of them for a fool. Darryl Hammond alone has made an industry as Clinton, as have Dan Ackroyd as Jummah Cawtah and Dana Carvey as Poppy Bush.
Yeah, but that was AFTER they became president.
If you knew anything about playing a real instrument, you wouldn’t laugh.
But hey, if you’d rather go watch a mega-rich leftist who hates capitalism (but sure does use it to shove cash in his own pocket) and who hates America (and you, too), then go right ahead.
I went to a Glenn Miller concert a couple of years ago and was fortunate enough to meet some WWII veterans who’d seen the original orchestra. Meeting them and getting to know them afterwards was one of the best experiences of my life.
They have far more interesting stories to tell, than Little Eddie, whose mommy and daddy shoved him in the lime-light at an early age, grabbing after that fame and fortune.
Many artists are very tortured people, and experimenting with gayness is just another symptom of dealing with their extreme sensitivity and inability to cope with the demands of heterosexuality, conventional morality, etc.
Freddie Mercury couldn't have seemed any gayer; yet in spite of his misadventures with men and with drag, he lived with a woman for 7 years, called her his "common-law wife" and left the bulk of his estate to her, pissing off his late-in-life gay lover.
It's not that I approve of this behavior; but I see reality. It is what it is; and it is fed by the public's clamor for Golden Calves.
Unless you really are part of an organized group of multi-million dollar donors to a Palin candidacy, your emotional demands that she run in exchange for your ardor are loony. She can, and should, do as she pleases; if she is not ready now, you need to suck it up.
There is a lot more to a run for president than popular acclaim. There must be Big Money, Big Organization and a lot of luck as well as the will of the established party system to back her and create a unified campaign. I suspect that much of the negativity directed against her last time around came from Romney's people; and the sabotage by McCain's people is already documented.
Let the woman develop at her own pace. You see what the Democrats' having pushed an unseasoned, immature candidacy onto America by the use of PR tricks and spin has done to our country.
I’m not giving her my “advice.” I’m expressing my opinion, as are you. Don’t get so touchy.
bttt.Thanks, WinOne!
Now that this fun thread has been "demoted" out of "Breaking News," I guess that I'll have to get back to flogging it again, too!
From www.thrfeed.com:
March 05, 2010NBC denies adding laugh track for Sarah Palin
NBC is denying a report that "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" boosted apparent audience enthusiasm for Sarah Palin's appearance by using a laugh track.
A report from liberal site Daily Kos is getting plenty of pickup saying the response of the live audience to Palin's jokes was entirely unlike what NBC aired. Written by a member of the audience claiming to be a sound engineer, here's the relevant portion:
They added laughter where there was none during uncomfortable portions. Well, there was some laughter. Mine, of derision. During those pregnant pauses in her performance I was laughing long and loud, couldn't help myself as much of what she was saying was utterly surreal, ridiculous, hypocritical - nonsense, spewed platitudes, pushed buttons. I was seriously thinking of leaving as it was getting hysterically unfunny.Clearly the Daily Kos poster isn't a Palin fan (and would lose a spelling bee if given the word "responsibility").After sitting through the taping of the show in the studio I can recount many portions where there was little or no laughter or response, but at the later broadcast they are smoothed over with applause and laughter that WERE NOT THERE at the taping. Groans, hoots, grumbling, or just dead silence - all missing.
They should bear some responsibilty for hawking a defective product. This is corporate shilling in the worst way, not only to raise Leno's ratings, but to push Palin on a crowd with fake laughter and applause.
Asked about the audio track, NBC replied,
"Neither the audio nor the laughs were enhanced for Sarah Palin's segments on 'The Tonight Show.'"Hmm. If only the "NBC denied" list wasn't so long and fraught with strikethroughs and asterisk marks...
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...I dunno. No Palin fan myself, but this guy obviously wanted to hate her performance so much, I wouldn't put too much stock in his recollection of what actually occurred.
Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable.
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I question all of the laughs, mainly because the audience was DEAD during her SNL appearance back in '08 (the only laughs Palin got were when a very pregnant Amy Poehler started rapping... so those laughs belonged much more to Poehler).
Also, wasn't Adam Lambert on the show that night?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that many of the very fanatical Adam Lambert followers don't share a lot of overlap with the equally fanatical Sarah Palin followers.
The wording of NBC's response is curious, as well: "Neither the audio nor the laughs were enhanced for Sarah Palin's segments on 'The Tonight Show.'"
Why wasn't there a blanket statement just denying ANY use of audio/laugh enhancements for the show?
Singling out the Sarah Palin segments seems to imply that the show DOES, at times, enhance laughter.
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And why in the world would NBC want to make Palin look good?
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...It's nice to see another lie about Sarah Palin debunked (they always are) but the author of this deal just couldn't help themself at the end.
Man you lefties are scared of this little housewife from moose country! (As you should be)
Funny thing, Sarah was last on the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien and William Shatner.
She killed with her spoof on Shatner.
The audience went crazy for her...
Have to disagree with you there. Judy Garland was a tragic figure enmeshed in drug abuse, alcoholism and mental breakdowns as well as glamour and escapism. That is what the closeted gays identified with at the time -- not a confident, outspoken, sincerely religious, heterosexual conservative image like Palin's.
I recall that they trashed Dole, Reagan, Bush, Gore and Hillary during the campaigns, and I don't watch that often. They even took heat for having a white guy play Obama before the election.
Do you remember Reagan? He was very serious about his conservatism but funny and lighthearted. He wasn’t so self-important or image conscious that he’d be above something like this. He was an actor in some pretty cheesy movies and guest on a few silly talk shows and yet he became the best president in my lifetime. Palin appears on a couple talk shows (she has a book and is making about the same rounds other authors make...Romney being on Letterman comes to mind) and she’s not going to be taken seriously? Conservatism doesn’t always have to be prim and proper. Nor does one have to only appear on “certain” media outlets to be considered a serious contender with true conservative ideals. Why do people think we have to be so uptight all the time? No wonder we have a reputation for being uptight and prudish. Being able to be lighthearted, funny and graceful in different situations is a great quality too and she’s garnered curiosity in many people who see her as something more than the bubble-head the media portrayed her as.
Cindie
Thanks for posting that link to the Daily Show...I was pressed for time earlier...
Obama's problems are because of his ideology and not because he is "unseasoned".
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