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Academy Women to Become First Female Submariners (stupid idea)
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| Lisa Daniel
Posted on 02/26/2010 4:44:12 PM PST by SandRat
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To: Non-Sequitur
I was stationed aboard several different classes of fast Attack Submarines, SSN-597, SSN 590 and SSN 710. There was barely enough room for the men, equipment and stores load out you needed for patrol.So where do they think they will find space to accomodate women.
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posted on
02/27/2010 6:43:02 AM PST
by
boat597
To: cranked
I went on a war exercise with an army unit.
There were female troops involved.
One had just given birth to a child and was breast feeding.
Well, the soldiers gave her special treatment. She didn’t sleep in the dirt like the rest. They set up a sleeping quarters in the tunnel connecting the cab of a modified bradley and the operational area in the vehicle defeating the purpose of egress and regress that the tunnel was designed for.
Then she would pump breast milk and put it in a bottle and a couple of guys would take a hummvee and drive it out of the box and take it to others outside of the operation to deliver to a caretaker on the outside.
This took troops and vehicles away from the mission and mission readiness as their focus wasn’t on the mission at all.
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posted on
02/27/2010 6:47:13 AM PST
by
mylife
(Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
To: Travis McGee
I bet that was great for the crews moral.
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posted on
02/27/2010 6:58:34 AM PST
by
mylife
(Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
To: LuvFreeRepublic
Sorry, I was away from the computer for a while. This thread is now over 300, so while I catch up, let me just say that because you don’t like what I posted isn’t the same as having a logical reason to dispute it.
There was nothing pathetic about what I posted. What I posted was an indication that the topic of women on submarines is more than, and can’t be reduced to, simply male chauvanism.
Men and women aren’t the same. That is good, not bad. It is a fact, not an opinion. The question then becomes if that difference affects the operation of a submarine or not.
So, answer and dispute,not dismiss, the questions raised or concede the point that women on submarines may not be a good thing.
I’m open either way but want facts or reasoned opinions, not your personal prejudice or inclination.
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posted on
02/27/2010 7:06:15 AM PST
by
IrishCatholic
(No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
To: Travis McGee
Have any of these numbnuts making policy ever BEEN ON a submarine? My bet and would be a pretty safe-one I think is that the ones who dreamed up the idea and the supporters of the idea are Airedales, Skimmers, Ground Pounders or Pants Shiners / Stainer's. With the majority of them from the latter category.
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posted on
02/27/2010 7:10:59 AM PST
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
To: cranked
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posted on
02/27/2010 7:14:57 AM PST
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
To: IrishCatholic
The subject matter of your comment was neither liked or disliked by me. The fact that you dismissed my original complaint as if it was irrelevant was what I find pathetic. I never offered a comment about women being on subs. I am not in the position to offer meaningful comments; I am not Navy. I am in a position to find some of the comments about females offensive and unnecessary relative to the subject of women being on subs. FYI, there is nothing prejudicial about my desire to see people treat each other with respect. Never will I find demeaning comments to be an acceptable way of debating an issue.
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posted on
02/27/2010 7:17:35 AM PST
by
LuvFreeRepublic
(Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
My friend had it happen to her so I chose not to go there to work. Don't sexual harassment rules work against lesbian harassment? Or is it too un-PC for them to take up the charges?
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posted on
02/27/2010 7:33:32 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: HiTech RedNeck
but it raises another question: why are crews allowed to pull sophomoric pranks on one another aboard subs if they are this dangerous? it just sounds stupid. I would imagine that they are smart enough to not pull pranks that are actually dangerous. Part of the purpose of the pranks is to find out how the new guy is going to react, on the viewpoint that the time to discover that a guy is a jerk, an ass, or a hysteric is BEFORE the stuff hits the fan.
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posted on
02/27/2010 8:12:11 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: Finny
Men bond in ways when women aren't around that are crucial to survival in warfare. It's not just in the military. At one point I was a young guy in a small startup, working long hours and hanging out with the other guys there. When we got a couple of female developers, it completely changed the group dynamics, and not for the better. They were thin-skinned and demanded that we change to suit them.
Guys behave differently when it's just us guys, and have closer relationships.
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posted on
02/27/2010 8:18:13 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: PapaBear3625
see FR Mail for answer to question.
To: LuvFreeRepublic
Military life is NOT like civilian life.
In a situation where the rest of the guys have decided that your low performance puts them at physical risk, you WILL get a "blanket party" to convince you to improve to their standards, or get out.
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posted on
02/27/2010 8:43:55 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: GrannyAnn; Jersey Republican Biker Chick
TOTAL BS. You don't care about her in the least, nor her mental state which is perfectly fine FYI. Saying , Hypersensitive, overly emotional and intellectually inferior women is caring? You just wanted to join with the others attacking her. Did you enjoy yourself? Saying Perhaps you should shield yourself and not visit Free Republic any more. That is caring & that wasn't snarky? So you are an intellectually superior woman hmmm? It is so nice to see such a caring sensitive person like yourself watching out for other FReepers. I hope you never bother to look out for me. So you are a Desperate Housewives fan.... Lol, it figures. They like to be catty & gang up on each other, is that where you learned your snarky, rude, superior attitude? I can't stand the show myself but to each their own I guess. Some people need that drama bs in their lives, must make them feel like part of the clique. Glad I never felt that need to be in a clique..... Have a nice day.
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posted on
02/27/2010 8:56:26 AM PST
by
pandoraou812
(Alcohol/drug/dementia testing & term limits ought to be mandatory for politicians.)
To: pandoraou812; GrannyAnn
FYI, I have never seen Desperate Housewives and I do not care to...not my genre.
Sons of Anarchy...yeah, i watch that.
To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I watch it & it seems to hang around my house quite a bit. Not the actual SOA members but close enough.
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posted on
02/27/2010 9:35:06 AM PST
by
pandoraou812
(Alcohol/drug/dementia testing & term limits ought to be mandatory for politicians.)
To: dragnet2
Hmmm, interesting. And by your statement, I conclude that you believe a man’s face would not have been broken by a punch that hard. Yeah, I have to agree....men’s heads are so much harder than women’s.
To: Finny
He is indeed fortunate to have a wife with such an insight.
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posted on
02/27/2010 9:43:02 AM PST
by
xone
To: xone
Oh, you’re so kind ... I grew up around all loving and kind big brothers who only beat me up when I needed it (!!!), no sisters. Husband and I have been married for 20 years; God willin’ and the crik don’t rise, we have many more years together ahead. My folks have been married for 62 years tomorrow!
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posted on
02/27/2010 10:17:17 AM PST
by
Finny
("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
To: Finny
My folks have been married for 62 years tomorrow! Congrats! That is so wonderful. I wish my parents had lived long enough to make 62 years. They did make 50 at least.
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posted on
02/27/2010 10:20:24 AM PST
by
pandoraou812
(Alcohol/drug/dementia testing & term limits ought to be mandatory for politicians.)
To: Finny
Oh, youre so kind My sisters rarely thought so even though I only beat them when they needed it. You post was right on the money and not something you see from a woman all the time. Smart man your husband, candy for beer, make that trade all day.
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posted on
02/27/2010 10:24:13 AM PST
by
xone
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