Posted on 02/26/2010 4:44:12 PM PST by SandRat
WASHINGTON, Feb. 26, 2010 – Female sailors will begin serving on submarines by the end of next year, with Naval Academy graduates leading the way, Navy leaders told a Senate committee yesterday.
Navy Secretary Ray Mabus told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Navy is in a good position to move forward with integrating women onto submarines.
“We think we learned a lot about integrating women in the services years ago, and those lessons are relevant today,” Mabus said. Those lessons, he said, include having a “critical mass” of female candidates, having senior women to serve as mentors, and having submarines that don’t require modifications: the SSBN ballistic missile and SSGN guided-missile subs.
Finally, Mabus said, “We have the lesson learned to make sure any questions are answered, … and we’re very open and transparent on how we’ll do this. We think this is a great idea that will enhance our warfighting capabilities.”
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates notified Congress on Feb. 19 of the intended change to Navy policy. Mabus had pushed for the change since taking office in May. Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, endorsed the change, saying in a statement released in September that his experience commanding a mixed-gender surface-combatant ship makes him “very comfortable” integrating women into the submarine force. The Navy changed its policy to allow women to serve on combatant ships in 1993.
“We have a great plan, and we’re ready to go for the first women to come aboard in late 2011,” Roughead told the Senate committee yesterday. In a prepared statement to the committee, he said the change would enable the submarine force “to leverage the tremendous talent and potential of our female officers and enlisted personnel.”
Besides the incoming officers from the academy, the first women submariners will include female supply corps officers at the department head level, Roughead said. The change will be phased in over time to include enlisted female sailors on the SSBN and SSGNs, he said. Women will be added to the Navy’s SSN fast-attack submarines after necessary modifications can be determined, he said.
“This initiative has my personal attention, and I will continue to keep you informed as we integrate these highly motivated and capable officers into our submarine force,” Roughead told the committee.
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Well only you know what you really meant, but “also” doesn’t fit grammatically. You are using to (sic) as an adverb modifying the word common - too common aka very common - or so it appears from your post. Either way it is too and not to.
But, please, don’t let me interrupt.
A lesson in grammar too?
The proper way to do this is for women to prove themselves with command of their own subs, as some one jokingly suggested.
You don’t do **** on a boat until you earn respect.
And just sacheting onto the boat with an attitude won’t get it.
Do you like the word sacheting? I made it up. And you know damn well what it means.
Hence, why I posted it...
I tried to look for the article via its original news outlet but was unable to find and had to post up the link I did. Sorry. Anyhow, I am sure that such a study (given its unknown date) is either garbaged already or has been glossed over and replaced with one that does not make the “reducing war-fighting effectiveness” assertion/mention.
Very good. You get an A. Now go to bed!
Brilliant, really brilliant. It takes a strong character to poke fun at himself (herself?).
I like your changing the noun sachet (bag or powder) into a verb sacheting (bagging or powdering). It is quite Shakespearean.
Could one use it like so - “I really sacheted mylife?”
If the latter, then I suppose no one could sachet on a submarine, due to the extreme lack of privacy.
LOL! I don’t doubt it!
I’m sure grateful for guys like you. Thanks for serving with such focus.
I really do believe completely NOW that Obama's people are deliberately trying to sabotage our military strength and to make us weaker. I hope and pray to God that in the near future, more serious Americans in the upper echelons of the armed forces will end this social experimentation and return ALL combat forces, on land and at sea, to all-male configuration.
From personal experience, having women on subs isn’t really a major issue (the antics of drunken submariners ashore in foreign ports is a far bigger issue and that isn’t even all that big either).
Hell, we have USN personnel serving on our subs and even they admit that women on subs isn’t a major issue.
Tell us Dundee, how much time you have spent aboard submarines?
Or is all of your experience gained from watching Star Trek?
(To put this into context, subs are 10X more cramped than destroyers, with no sky to horizon view.)
Destroyer Commander Canned
February 18, 2010
Military.com|by Bryant Jordan
The commander of the guided missile destroyer Truxtun has been relieved of duty after the Navy lost confidence in his ability to command.
The Navy took the action against Cmdr. Timothy R. Weber while it investigates him for allegedly being involved in an inappropriate relationship with a female officer who had been a member of his wardroom, the Virginian-Pilot is reporting. No charges have been filed against Weber.
Capt. Jeffrey Wolstenholme, deputy commander of Destroyer Squadron 22, has assumed temporary command, according to the paper.
Weber, who had commanded the Truxtun since July 2007, is being temporarily reassigned to administrative duties on the Naval Surface Force Atlantic commander’s staff.
This whole site is about opinions! And I really care about her mental state and merely made a suggestion that she should shield herself from comments (opinions) that are way too upsetting for her. She should try watching Desperate Housewives instead of reading opinions posted here.
If you can get a shay on a submarine anything is possible.
I spent 30 years in the Navy and could never understand how men could stand living under those cramped conditions. I can’t imagine how women will.
Honey, any man that demeans a woman and does not show them respect is no man. To excuse their behavior by saying they don’t realize it and it is because they are guys perpetuates the problems. FYI, I do understand real men, I was raised by one. Have a great say honey.
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