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Academy Women to Become First Female Submariners (stupid idea)
American Forces Press Service ^ | Lisa Daniel

Posted on 02/26/2010 4:44:12 PM PST by SandRat

WASHINGTON, Feb. 26, 2010 – Female sailors will begin serving on submarines by the end of next year, with Naval Academy graduates leading the way, Navy leaders told a Senate committee yesterday.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Navy is in a good position to move forward with integrating women onto submarines.

“We think we learned a lot about integrating women in the services years ago, and those lessons are relevant today,” Mabus said. Those lessons, he said, include having a “critical mass” of female candidates, having senior women to serve as mentors, and having submarines that don’t require modifications: the SSBN ballistic missile and SSGN guided-missile subs.

Finally, Mabus said, “We have the lesson learned to make sure any questions are answered, … and we’re very open and transparent on how we’ll do this. We think this is a great idea that will enhance our warfighting capabilities.”

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates notified Congress on Feb. 19 of the intended change to Navy policy. Mabus had pushed for the change since taking office in May. Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, endorsed the change, saying in a statement released in September that his experience commanding a mixed-gender surface-combatant ship makes him “very comfortable” integrating women into the submarine force. The Navy changed its policy to allow women to serve on combatant ships in 1993.

“We have a great plan, and we’re ready to go for the first women to come aboard in late 2011,” Roughead told the Senate committee yesterday. In a prepared statement to the committee, he said the change would enable the submarine force “to leverage the tremendous talent and potential of our female officers and enlisted personnel.”

Besides the incoming officers from the academy, the first women submariners will include female supply corps officers at the department head level, Roughead said. The change will be phased in over time to include enlisted female sailors on the SSBN and SSGNs, he said. Women will be added to the Navy’s SSN fast-attack submarines after necessary modifications can be determined, he said.

“This initiative has my personal attention, and I will continue to keep you informed as we integrate these highly motivated and capable officers into our submarine force,” Roughead told the committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bhodod; bhosecdef; submarines; submatines; usna; usnavy; women
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1 posted on 02/26/2010 4:44:12 PM PST by SandRat
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To: SandRat

The “Love Boat” sails beneath the waves.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 4:45:48 PM PST by RanGreHad
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To: SandRat

It’s only a stupid idea if you like America and favor a strong US military to protect US interests. The people running our country today love the idea - for what they want it’s the smart thing to do.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 4:46:37 PM PST by hometoroost (I am not a crook, I did not have sex with that woman, and I am not an ideologue.)
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To: SandRat

4 posted on 02/26/2010 4:46:50 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Proud Member of the Teeth Party Movement)
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To: Admin Moderator

Are posters allowed to inject their opinion in the header?

I respect the right to espouse an opinion, but it’s as if he/she has been given the right to speak on the behalf of everyone on FR, including JimRob.


5 posted on 02/26/2010 4:47:21 PM PST by jra
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To: jra
Are posters allowed to inject their opinion in the header?

I thought it was a long standing tradition to post whatever you wanted between the parenthesis (e.g., 'Barf Alert'; etc...)

6 posted on 02/26/2010 4:50:00 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SandRat
Have we studied the "I don't want to be here and so I will get knocked up" ratio yet?

Especially on a sub, a cohesive unit working together is vital to just staying alive!

I am getting tired of the, "I can, so allow me" arguement...

I won't go into all the horrible things people can do that are speciffically dis-allowed!!

7 posted on 02/26/2010 4:50:18 PM PST by Nitro
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Hmmmm....I wonder how long until Obama turns the Navy SEAL’s into a Gay/Female Muslim Outreach group........


8 posted on 02/26/2010 4:51:52 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: jra
Are posters allowed to inject their opinion in the header?

You've been here over 10 years and haven't seen that before? Wow.

9 posted on 02/26/2010 4:52:03 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: El Cid

It may be. If true, it’s a dumb idea.

It makes FR look like DU.


10 posted on 02/26/2010 4:52:08 PM PST by jra
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To: jra

Every “barf alert” is an opinion, alas! Even if I do not agree with the original poster about this one.


11 posted on 02/26/2010 4:53:13 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SandRat

Just give them their own submarine, all female crew. See what happens.


12 posted on 02/26/2010 4:53:33 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: T. P. Pole

Sure, I’ve seen parenthetical statements...but they’ve gotten way out of hand lately.

Some semblance of decorum would be nice—and as I said, it’s presumptuous to assume one has been given the authority to post his/her opinion as universal.


13 posted on 02/26/2010 4:53:52 PM PST by jra
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To: hometoroost
"It’s only a stupid idea if you like America and favor a strong US military to protect US interests."

So the American submarine service is weak, has always been weak, and will remain weak, and we don't and never have liked America until these women actually get into the submarine service at some point in the future?

14 posted on 02/26/2010 4:54:03 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: jra; Admin Moderator

If the Admin Moderator wants to change it that’s fine with me.

Sad, that I had to find out about your concerns indirectly by scanning my thread.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 4:54:19 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

We all live on a ladies’ submarine,
Ladies’ submarine,
Ladies’ submarine.


16 posted on 02/26/2010 4:55:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: SandRat

It won’t last past the first cruise.


17 posted on 02/26/2010 4:55:33 PM PST by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: SandRat

bookmark


18 posted on 02/26/2010 4:56:33 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: SandRat

Are they going to have an estrogen escape valve to prevent the men from starting their periods?


19 posted on 02/26/2010 4:56:44 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: jra

It is universal enough among the military, veterans, and conservatives.

Among leftists, feminists and the anti military population, the opposite view is pretty universal.


20 posted on 02/26/2010 4:57:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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