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RON PAUL should be the ZIONIST CHOICE for US President.
Arutz Sheva -- Israel National News ^ | 11/15/07 | Shmuel Ben-Gad

Posted on 02/25/2010 12:56:50 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist

Israel receives military and financial assistance, and also some diplomatic support at the United Nations, but the US puts pressure on Israel to surrender parts of the homeland... It seems to me a Ron Paul presidency would be good for Israel and for the United States. Its foreign policy non-interventionism and its concern to protect national sovereignty would provide Israel with a greater impetus to increase its own independence and sense of national honor. I hope American Zionists will resist the immediate, meretricious attractions of American financial assistance for Israel. Ron Paul would both end this infantilizing, and even corrupting, aid and respect Israel's national sovereignty. Taking the long and deep view, Ron Paul should be the Zionist choice."

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To: Cindy; Christian_Capitalist; ari-freedom

What she said.


21 posted on 02/25/2010 1:49:04 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: world weary

Ron Paul is too much of an idealogue to be an effective executive. He’s good at reinforcing principles no doubt and he has surprised me with how successful he’s been in communicating ideas. The fact that the GOP establishment doesn’t embrace him has been a blessing in disguise. Ron Paul gets invited to shows on channels like MSNBC and CNN, where he sounds off on limited government and the Constitutional principles to a liberal audience! I personally think it’s healthy for his ideas (particularly those regarding economics) to gain steam among such a crowd.

But yeah, he is not an effective politician.


22 posted on 02/25/2010 1:51:15 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: Christian_Capitalist

my boy is Jim Demint (he’ll probably become the next majority leader since he was the first to support Toomey, Rubio, and Davore


23 posted on 02/25/2010 1:57:21 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Well, he’s not embraced by Conservatives thats for sure. I still like him though, he’s really the only one talking about really revolutionary things (how many politicans want to completely get rid of the IRS).


24 posted on 02/25/2010 1:57:31 AM PST by world weary
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To: world weary
Irrespective of my views on Sarah Palin (which I'm not going to go into), her giving him a plug or endorsing his son doesn't imply a political alliance to me. I have a hard time seeing Sarah going along with alot of what Paul stands for and very publicly says (eliminating the various departments in the Federal Government (not just reducing spending, completely eliminating them), eliminating the Income Tax, completely withdrawing all US troops deployed overseas, etc).

Dude... I've been watching Sarah Palin for a long time.

Before she ever got picked for Veep by McCain, her position on Iraq was "Let the troops finish their job, and bring them home as soon as possible." That's a direct quote from her Alaskan State politics days. That's original and uncorrupted Governor Sarah Palin, from before the "McCain Days".

She's our creation. Ron Paul endorsed Sarah Palin back in 2006, and she's been endorsing the Pauls ever since.

I do support Ron Paul, and (grudgingly I will admit) Sarah is a decent politican, but outside of Paul being very independant of the GOP and her admiring him for it, I don't really see them getting along.

Well, I don't mean any offense, but you're bloody well wrong.

Do you think that Ron and Rand Paul don't strategize politics at Family Christmas Dinner together? And do you think that Sarah Palin's endorsement came as a surprise to either of them?

There's no rivalry between the Palins and the Pauls. Their families have been in loose Alliance for at least the last four years.

Palin/Paul Alliance 2012. The New Definition of American Conservatism.

25 posted on 02/25/2010 1:58:01 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: world weary

“he’s really the only one talking about really revolutionary things (how many politicans want to completely get rid of the IRS).”

OK what’s his plan? Give it a new name? As long as there is a government, it will need to be funded by some kind of tax (unless you believe it can be funded by voluntary donations) and that tax will have to be collected by the IRS.


26 posted on 02/25/2010 2:03:12 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: ari-freedom
you actually think you can defeat islam simply by blowing up a rock? 19 posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:46:44 AM by ari-freedom

Okay, I'm gonna spell this out for you REAL simple:

AND, of course, how can Allah command a hajj to Mecca, if Mecca doesn't exist?

I could go on, and on, and on. In Islam, Mecca is God's geographic point of contact with the Faithful. Take out Mecca, and you've proven that the American Bomb is more powerful than Allah.

Only Tom Tancredo's people, and Ron Paul's people, are ballsy enough to say so out loud.

27 posted on 02/25/2010 2:03:13 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Paul is a “9/11 truther.” Some nut house is missing its nut.

Keep repeating your tired slanders.

Your time has come and gone, and now you are being uprooted and replaced by the new blood: The Palin/Paul Alliance.

Your Paul-hatred is old and obsolete.

28 posted on 02/25/2010 2:08:47 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: darkwing104; Christian_Capitalist

Hey, darkwing!

I’d like you to meet “CC.”

“CC” is an aPAULogist who has a voluminous posting history (for being so recent.) He is also something of a psychic, foretelling the demise of FR, should the forum not heed the wisdom of his words. In less than a month he has developed a mighty command of HTML tags.

I just thought you’d like to meet him.


29 posted on 02/25/2010 2:09:20 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: shibumi
“CC” is an aPAULogist who has a voluminous posting history (for being so recent.) He is also something of a psychic, foretelling the demise of FR,

Hey, I don't see any "demise of FR" on the horizon.

Free Republic is Pro-Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin is Pro-Rand Paul

I'm Pro-Sarah Palin AND Pro-Rand Paul.

Sounds like my kinda folk. I'm here to stay.

30 posted on 02/25/2010 2:14:05 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Tying the fate of this forum to the fortunes of any one politician is reminiscent of those who said Rush would go off the air for lack of material once the Clintons were out of office.

Try again.

31 posted on 02/25/2010 2:17:45 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

1) you don’t even realize how insane you are for suggesting that we should nuke Saudi Arabia.
2) you’re assuming islamists will stop and think to connect the dots instead of “Kill Kill Kill!”
3) Ron Paul said “they’re terrorists because we’re occupiers” and he’s going to nuke Saudi Arabia? Right.


32 posted on 02/25/2010 2:19:32 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: ari-freedom
that tax will have to be collected by the IRS.

He wants to get rid of it and replace it with...here it comes..nothing!.

I don't know if you knew this, but the Income Tax doesn't pay for anything other than the National Debt. It doesn't fund schools, hospitals, education, defense, nothing. The Federal Government gets its money primarily from Capital Gains, Exise taxes, social security taxes, bond sales, sales taxes on smokes and booze, taxes designed to "pay" for government programs, etc. The Income tax doesn't fund any function of Government other than paying off the National Debt.

The corresponding reduction in spending on maintaining an overseas empire, useless government departments, and generally vastly reducing the size of government are expected to provide the savings necessary to continue paying off the debt with the elimination of the income tax.

33 posted on 02/25/2010 2:21:32 AM PST by world weary
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To: ari-freedom; Christian_Capitalist
Their rock is not our Rock. ;-)

Destroying Mecca would destroy Islam as we know it, but it would not destroy the hundreds of millions of surviving Muslims enraged and mobilized by such an act.

OTOH, Judaism survives quite well without a High Priest, a Temple, and an Altar with daily burnt offerings. Islam would adapt to the destruction of their holiest of places also.

OTOOH, it is a fun fantasy to contemplate from time to time.


34 posted on 02/25/2010 2:23:28 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
"Free Republic is Pro-Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin is Pro-Rand Paul I'm Pro-Sarah Palin AND Pro-Rand Paul. Sounds like my kinda folk. I'm here to stay."

Textbook example of Affirming the Consequent. (Fallacy 101.)
35 posted on 02/25/2010 2:25:53 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: world weary

I don't think we can properly fund the military with a tax on smokes and booze.
The social security tax goes to pay for social security. It is also an income tax. Yes, the income tax should be drastically reduced and simplified as we dismantle the welfare state but there will still be some form of IRS.
36 posted on 02/25/2010 2:33:47 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: ari-freedom
1) you don’t even realize how insane you are for suggesting that we should nuke Saudi Arabia. 2) you’re assuming islamists will stop and think to connect the dots instead of “Kill Kill Kill!” 3) Ron Paul said “they’re terrorists because we’re occupiers” and he’s going to nuke Saudi Arabia? Right.

You seem to have a very low view of Islamic understanding of their own theology.

Lemme put it to you real simple-like: if someone were to discover the Bones of Jesus Christ, there would be NO POINT in fighting for Christianity. It would all be over. There would be no point in the Religion anymore.

ALL Christians would give up on everything, tomorrow. Total religious apathy across billions of people. Total cataclysmic immediate Faith-Death, everywhere.

The same thing would happen to Islam, if the Ka'aba were destroyed.

It's the whole ball-game, for a thousand and more years, in one City Block.

37 posted on 02/25/2010 2:36:27 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Islamists aren’t rational people. That’s the part you don’t quite understand.


38 posted on 02/25/2010 2:39:26 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: ari-freedom
Islamists aren’t rational people. That’s the part you don’t quite understand.

Islamists are Faith-driven Fundamentalist people.
That's the part I understand a whole lot better than you do.


39 posted on 02/25/2010 2:45:09 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: ApplegateRanch
Destroying Mecca would destroy Islam as we know it, but it would not destroy the hundreds of millions of surviving Muslims enraged and mobilized by such an act.... it is a fun fantasy to contemplate from time to time.

See my #37 and #39.

40 posted on 02/25/2010 2:53:10 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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