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About 50 Turkish commanders held over coup plot
AP ^ | February 22 | SELCAN HACAOGLU

Posted on 02/22/2010 11:04:22 AM PST by Mount Athos

Turkish police detained about 50 military commanders Monday for allegedly planning to blow up mosques in order to trigger a military takeover and overthrow the Islamic-rooted government.

The nationwide sweep highlighted the ongoing struggle between the secular establishment and the Islamic-oriented government - and left many wondering if the military no longer called the shots in a nation accustomed to viewing it as the pillar of the secular state.

The detention of 49 senior military officers, according to CNN-Turk television - including members of the elite class known as "Pashas," a title of respect harking back to Ottoman times - proved, at the very least, that such officials are no longer untouchable.

Turkey's secular military has ousted four governments since 1960, demonstrating its influence and place of power since Mustafa Kemal Ataturk created the republic from the ashes of the Ottoman Empire.

Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc on Monday expressed regret over the 1961 hanging by coup leaders of a prime minister and two of his ministers. But he said that those days are over and that Turkey now was going through a normalization process.

"We could not even dream about things that we see happening now," Arinc told CNN-Turk television Monday. "Things will get better when those who were never accountable for their deeds begin to account for them."

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan declined to comment Monday on the raids, saying they had been carried out on prosecutors' orders.

"It would not be appropriate for me to talk about an issue that is already handled by the judiciary," Erdogan said during a visit to Madrid.

Police teams raided the suspects' homes in eight cities on Monday.

The military's image had already been tarnished by allegations it was secretly planning to depose Erdogan's elected government for undermining secularism in this predominantly Muslim country.

The commanders detained Monday are reportedly accused of seeking to plant bombs at mosques to stir chaos at home to pave the way for a coup. They are also accused of allegedly conspiring to plan shooting down a Turkish warplane to trigger armed conflict with Greece in a bid to destabilize the Turkish government. The military strongly denied the allegations.

On Sunday Erdogan said his government was preserving the rule of law, and had not given "a chance to those who tried to fly a course for Turkey outside law."

Several high-ranking members of Turkey's military were among those detained, including ex-deputy chief Gen. Ergin Saygun, former Air Force chief Gen. Ibrahim Firtina and Navy Chief Adm. Ozden Ornek. Several other senior admirals and generals were also among the suspects.

So far, prosecutors have charged more than 400 people in the case, including soldiers, academics, journalists and politicians.

No one has yet been convicted.

The detentions Monday followed the gathering of wiretap evidence and the discovery of secret weapons caches - revelations that dealt a blow to the military's credibility.

Erdogan also has dramatically curtailed the military's power, under EU pressure, and reinforced civilian rule while bolstering democratic institutions.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: attemptedcoup; militarycoup; turkey; turkishmilitary
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1 posted on 02/22/2010 11:04:23 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Darn, sounded like a good plan


2 posted on 02/22/2010 11:06:23 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: JustPiper; Nachum; SJackson; SunkenCiv; onyx; jhpigott; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Las Vegas Ron; ...

wow *ping*


3 posted on 02/22/2010 11:08:05 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: pissant

Too good - it may have been the lefty’s favorite trick - a purge just to cement the Islamo-fascist grip.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 11:08:56 AM PST by jessduntno (Bawney Fwank...with friends like him, who needs enemas?)
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To: Mount Athos

Smells like a Moslem “reichstag fire” ...


5 posted on 02/22/2010 11:09:13 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem)
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To: Mount Athos

So these Islamic officers were prepared to blow up Islamic holy sites and then blame it on Christians and/or others so they could take over the government?

WOW.


6 posted on 02/22/2010 11:09:21 AM PST by HD1200
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To: Mount Athos

No doubt our crack Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is right on top of this..........

Well, maybe not.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 11:11:28 AM PST by HD1200
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To: Mount Athos

Note to self: Turkish police prefer sedans.

;-)


8 posted on 02/22/2010 11:11:32 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: HD1200

No, The military wants to preserve the secular government and is opposed to an Islamic republic..............


9 posted on 02/22/2010 11:13:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Mount Athos

To me, the charges are so far fetched I conclude it is a Stalin like purging of the Turkish military by the Muzzie fundamentalists backing the current government.


10 posted on 02/22/2010 11:14:02 AM PST by C19fan
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To: Mount Athos

Stinks to high heavens. Blow up mosques? Why? If they wanted to stage a coup, just do it. Generally speaking your average Turk highly respects the military.


11 posted on 02/22/2010 11:15:06 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: HD1200

“So these Islamic officers were prepared to blow up Islamic holy sites and then blame it on Christians and/or others so they could take over the government?”

No. What we have is, I think, just the opposite. The senior military is secular, pro-Western and very anti Islamic-state. This is a purge by the current elected leaders [very Islamic, anti-West] against those who oppose their turning Turkey into an Islamic-law country. Bad news for US interests in the region.


12 posted on 02/22/2010 11:15:43 AM PST by Stat-boy
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To: C19fan

Bingo! The Turkish military is the biggest threat to the creation of an Islamofacist state. Kemal Ataturk knew what he was about.


13 posted on 02/22/2010 11:16:49 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: HD1200

“No doubt our crack Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is right on top of this..........”

On top of and Hillary in the same sentence is illegal in 23 states...


14 posted on 02/22/2010 11:16:53 AM PST by jessduntno (Bawney Fwank...with friends like him, who needs enemas?)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, but that military leadership, as well as it’s other secular allies, has just been purged.

As another poster noted, this is Turkey’s “Reichstag Fire.” As with all purges, the charges have been fabricated, the ringleaders will be executed, and the totalitarian state will assume full political control. In this case, it will be Iran, Jr.


15 posted on 02/22/2010 11:17:43 AM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Mount Athos
I have been thinking about this for weeks, what with the problems in Greece, and the restless muslims in Turkey --- always.

I particularly remember this, although the exact timeframe escapes me. The secular segment of Turkey had for decades been sensitive to the rise of muslim extremism and infiltration, specially among the military.

Their worst fears were well-founded, and the military is all that stood between a free secular Turkey and another muslim hell-hole.

Here's what I remember...

"Everybody must know that the Turkish armed forces will not tolerate the use of the opportunities of democracy by the enemies of the system, as a means to dynamite the basic principles of our state...”
retiring Chief of Staff General Huseyin Kivrikoglu, Turkey*

Looks like the military's vigilance was slowly infiltrated.

*Hüseyin Kıvrıkoğlu (born 1934) is a Turkish general, who became the 23rd Commander of the Turkish Armed Forces on August 28, 1998 for a four-year term. He also served as Chief of the Turkish General Staff and was succeeded by General Hilmi Özkök.

16 posted on 02/22/2010 11:18:14 AM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: henkster

EU and NATO will not like this..................


17 posted on 02/22/2010 11:20:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Mount Athos
Erdogan also has dramatically curtailed the military's power, under EU pressure, and reinforced civilian rule while bolstering democratic institutions.

Next to islam, the European Union is the greatest danger to the free secular world.

It is a joke to talk about "reinforcing civilian rule" when, under islam, no such rule is possible by definition!

18 posted on 02/22/2010 11:21:55 AM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: Mount Athos

I doubt it. It sounds more like an Islamist purge of the nationalist military on the grounds of an alleged plot. Stalin would be proud.


19 posted on 02/22/2010 11:24:08 AM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Mount Athos

Note that the word “constitution” does not appear in the story. Good old AP.

The Turkish constitution not only permits but requires the military to overthwow governments which threaten secularism.

I would take the “blowing up mosques” part with a big grain of salt.


20 posted on 02/22/2010 11:24:09 AM PST by denydenydeny ("Leftists are like vampires; shine a light on what they are doing and they retreat."-Andrew Klavan)
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