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A fact: Stimulus created jobs
The Boston Globe ^ | February 21, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 02/21/2010 5:09:33 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

THE NUMBERS are in, and there can no longer be any doubt that President Obama’s stimulus bill, passed just over a year ago, helped pull America from the brink of economic catastrophe, in part by creating millions of jobs that would not otherwise have existed. All of the major economic research firms that have studied the stimulus’ effect have come to this conclusion.

Still, though, it’s ridiculous to deny, as many have, that adding 2.5 million jobs was a poor use of government funds.

Stimulus opponents, often motivated by strictly ideological or political concerns, have repeatedly claimed that the bill didn’t create a single job that the economy wouldn’t have created anyway. This isn’t true, and it should be beyond the bounds of political debate to claim it.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: creativejournalism; failure; obamanomics; porkulus; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is 3rd grade economics. The government NEVER creats a sustainable private sector job. The government takes our taxes and gives it to people for a project. Once the project is done the job is gone.

The only jobs the government has created is more government jobs. The last thing we need right now. It is all B.S.


41 posted on 02/21/2010 5:34:58 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Boston Globe is still ignorant when it comes to economics.

They seem to believe the government creates wealth, and not the private sector. They also seem to lack the knowledge in order for the government to operate they have to take money from the private sector. Thus, costing private sector jobs and wealth.

What morons!


42 posted on 02/21/2010 5:35:35 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
it should be beyond the bounds of political debate

IOW, shut up or we will demagogue you in to obeyance.

43 posted on 02/21/2010 5:36:32 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The vast majority of the job “created” or saved were Government jobs. So the Stimulus helped keep the Government bureaucracy bloated. This proabably DID help stop the bleeding in the short term, but its gotta be be paid for. As such, it will be a significant mid-long term drag on the Economy.


44 posted on 02/21/2010 5:37:51 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: 70th Division
" It is all B.S."

It sure is. Obama is a phony and there are too many who can't see that.

45 posted on 02/21/2010 5:38:16 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“All of the major economic research firms that have studied the stimulus’ effect have come to this conclusion.”

That sentence alone proves that the writer of this editorial is ....wait for it...INSANE. “ALL of the major economic research firms.....” Ok Name them all. How about naming a few of them. The writer concludes that there is no evidence from any other research firm to say there was any other conclusions to be drawn. Please, this is clearly facts from another planet. We have all heard and read reports from reliable sources that conclude otherwise.

Clearly, the porkulus saved many government union jobs - for now. Cities, towns, and states funded municipal and state jobs (teachers, firemen, police, highway workers etc) with this money. What happens when the porkulus money dries up?
Unions and their pensions are going to kill this country if something isn’t done and done soon.

Anyway, who reads the Boston Globe anyway? I live in Massachusetts and hear that their circulation numbers are dropping....


46 posted on 02/21/2010 5:39:59 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
All of the major economic research firms that have studied the stimulus’ effect have come to this conclusion.

I'd be more impressed if they would name some of these firms' studies specifically.

Just as Obama and all his partisan supporters so often do, the Globe thinks that just calling something a fact makes it so.

This is how the left argues, and they fool nobody but themselves.

47 posted on 02/21/2010 5:40:34 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Government jobs that is. And at taxpayers expense and therefore worthless jobs. Just more bueracrats to wreak captalism and bring in the chains of communism on Americans.


48 posted on 02/21/2010 5:41:54 AM PST by kindred (All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine,for reproof,...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It has created about 30 Czars at a couple $100,000 per year.

Hummmmm? What was the stimulus again? The rest went into a bottomless pit I guess.

Average citizen John Q. Pubic didn’t see any!


49 posted on 02/21/2010 5:44:23 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: blackbart.223
I am not a right wing pig.

I am a right wig ping.

50 posted on 02/21/2010 5:45:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (Do it for the children.)
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To: OCCASparky
Boston Globe Editorial auto page generator 1.0

string[] libLies = {"Stimulus","Tarp","Closing Gitmo","Iran","Anything Else"}

for(int i=0,i < libLies.Length,i++)
{

string.format("This {0} plan worked to deny it is more blind partisanship, the kind that permeated our political culture the last 8 years",libLies[i])
}

Sorry little computer programmer nerd humor.

51 posted on 02/21/2010 5:45:44 AM PST by pburgh01
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How many of those jobs were created in non existent districts like the stimulus funds last year?
52 posted on 02/21/2010 5:47:01 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Hey zero, It is NOT Bush's fault anymore.)
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To: pburgh01

What’s scary is that I actually UNDERSTAND that, despite my last script/programming experience being in LINUX 3-4 years ago.


53 posted on 02/21/2010 5:47:06 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: blackbart.223

The ones who do not see it are the ones who voted for him because he was a brother.


54 posted on 02/21/2010 5:52:38 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
YOU LIE!
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55 posted on 02/21/2010 5:52:41 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (,)
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To: Bon mots
Communist countries behind the iron curtain were famous for big lies like this, but nobody believed it. Just this article saved 10,000,000 jobs.

Now, now. You are exaggerating. Actually it is 9,843,986 1/2 jobs. (The 1/2 is for the author of the story in the Globe).

56 posted on 02/21/2010 5:57:09 AM PST by ProudFossil
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To: pburgh01
Total crap. I'm goin' Linq2SQL with a table containing those values. More maintainability; you don't need to deploy a new webapp for every new program.

DATA LAYER:

        public List LieAboutAllPrograms()
        {
            MediaLiesDataContext sc = new MediaLiesDataContext();
            List lp = new List();
            var programlist = sc.GetAllPrograms();
            foreach (LieAboutAllProgramsResult program in programlist)
            {
                Program p = new Program(
                        0
                    , program.ProgramOrder
                    , program.ProgramButtonText
                    , program.ProgramDescription
                    , program.ProgramButtonBackColor
                    , program.ProgramButtonForeColor
                    , program.ProgramButtonURL
                    , program.ProgramEnabled
                    , Database.NullableDate(program.ProgramStartDate)
                    , Database.NullableDate(program.ProgramEndDate));

                lp.Add(p);
            }
            return lp;
        }

PRESENTATION LAYER:

                MediaLiesDAO sc = new MediaLiesDAO();
                List lp = sc.LieAboutAllPrograms();
                // add the buttons
                foreach (Program p in lp)
                {
                    if (p.ProgramEnabled)
                    {
                        Button b = new Button();
                        b.Text = "This "+p.ProgramButtonText+" plan worked to deny it is more blind partisanship, the kind that permeated our political culture the last 8 years";
                        b.PostBackUrl = p.ProgramButtonURL;
                        b.Width = Unit.Pixel(202);
                        ButtonPlaceholder.Controls.Add(b);
                    }
                }
            //}
        }

By using simple 2.0 Generics and Linq2Sql I have rendered an array of buttons with URLS and the lies all in a Master Page.

When will you C++ hackers ever learn.

57 posted on 02/21/2010 5:59:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (Do it for the children.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"The economic impact of the fiscal stimulus bill must be evaluated by projecting the economy without the stimulus bill and then introducing the fiscal stimulus to that same forecast. The CEA's report constructs and then analyzes a forecast of a downward spiraling economy. It runs a "what if" scenario in the wrong direction. Rather than analyzing the economic impact of the fiscal stimulus on a benchmark forecast, the CEA constructs a forecast and benchmarks it to what actually occurred.

The True Impact of the Stimulus

The CEA claims that the stimulus bill created jobs in 2009, but this claim is based on its newly constructed "it would have been worse" forecast for 2009. When trillions of dollars are being spent, the American people deserve to have a true economic analysis done and should not waste money on meaningless reports."

Karen A. Campbell, Ph.D., is Policy Analyst in Macroeconomics in the Center for Data Analysis at The Heritage Foundation. Aleksey Gladyshev, an intern in the Center for Data Analysis, contributed to the research of this paper. http://www.heritage.org/research/economy/wm2799.cfm

58 posted on 02/21/2010 6:00:13 AM PST by bertmerc1
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To: pburgh01
string[] libLies = {"Stimulus","Tarp","Closing Gitmo","Iran","Anything Else"} for(int i=0,i < libLies.Length,i++) { string.format("This {0} plan worked to deny it is more blind partisanship, the kind that permeated our political culture the last 8 years",libLies[i]) } Sorry little computer programmer nerd humor.

But this is an infinite loop. Where is the exit from it? After all, liberals lie infinitely.

59 posted on 02/21/2010 6:00:26 AM PST by ProudFossil
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To: Son House
Walz "Experts say more than 90 percent of the jobs created will be in the private sector.”

So far, the "experts" have been wrong, then.

60 posted on 02/21/2010 6:01:31 AM PST by Brilliant
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