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Obama Eyes Western Land for National Monuments, Angering Some
fox news ^ | 2/18/2010 | fox news

Posted on 02/19/2010 7:50:52 AM PST by sodpoodle

More than a dozen pristine landscapes, wildlife habitats and scenic rivers in 11 Western states, some larger than Rhode Island and Delaware combined, are under consideration by the Obama administration to become America's newest National Monuments -- a decision the administration can make unilaterally without local input or congressional approval.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; bhosocialism; confiscation; kenyancommunism; naturalresources; socialism
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To: mewzilla; backhoe

backhoe, FYI ping in case you might find this of interest :)


21 posted on 02/19/2010 8:13:02 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: sodpoodle; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


23 posted on 02/19/2010 8:25:28 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

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24 posted on 02/19/2010 8:27:24 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

Wonder if the president will try and tie this up.


25 posted on 02/19/2010 8:29:45 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: dfwgator
Thinking about the Fort Trumbull land take over in Connecticutt,the land is still not used and now they are talking about building condos instead of the economic development they scream about.
26 posted on 02/19/2010 8:30:25 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kafar!)
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To: pgyanke
".... those resources are the collateral for our debts.."

Glenn Beck said a few weeks ago that there is NO way we will ever be able to pay off the debt we owe china in money. It will be our land.

27 posted on 02/19/2010 8:42:27 AM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: sodpoodle

Taking land permanently out of the hands of private ownership do a number of negative things such as

>reducing the tax base forever, so the private sector must pay higher tax rates
>subject much more of our country to the whims of some federal bureaucracy such as Interior Dept to proclamations that are bizarre compared to most areas(”can’t pickup dead wood to prevent fires”, “no firearms in parks”, etc.)
>Most importantly, the reduction of people who own land means that there is less pride of individual ownership. Think of it as owning a home vs renting.

The individual who owns is typically more respective of individual rights, is against interference by govt and its intrusiveness into private affairs.

He is also typically wealthier and more independent than the renter.

We in Texas are very proud that we have such a low percentage of our lands in the hands of the federal beast.
Perhaps that is one reason we seem to be so conservative generally.


28 posted on 02/19/2010 8:47:03 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: sodpoodle

This is just more government takeover - land grab. Impeach Obama.


29 posted on 02/19/2010 9:09:47 AM PST by RoadTest (Wealth isn't obscene. Poverty is obscene. - Thomas (man of few but dynamite words) Sowell)
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To: sodpoodle

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We should be selling Federal land to pay down the national debt — NOT buying more!


30 posted on 02/19/2010 9:17:01 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Prospero
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31 posted on 02/19/2010 9:18:46 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Touch Not the Cat

When states and local governments lose the land, they lose the resources of that land and have lost any means of self reliance. NOT by accident. The west is a wholly owned subsidy of the federal government (and whoever owns them..like the chinese!)


32 posted on 02/19/2010 9:22:31 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: mewzilla

BTTT.


33 posted on 02/19/2010 9:30:55 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: dead
My understanding of the Clinton/Grand Staircase deal at the time was exactly as you put it: to take one of the only two sources of sulfur-free coal off the market, to the financial benefit of the Riady family.

I have a vague recollection of conservative commentators estimating how many hundreds of millions (or how many billions) of dollars the value of Riady family's coal investments went up with Clinton's single stroke of a pen.

As for the journalist saying he did it without telling the Arizona or Utah congressional delegation my memory is that Clinton had assured members of those delegations by phone that he was NOT going to do it only hours before doing it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

34 posted on 02/19/2010 9:32:23 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: South Dakota
I really want to take an "adventure" class bike through some of the existing roads in the Uinta range. I've seen some DVDs of others who traveled the area. Very nice. The roads are already present. Excluding visitors is simply more jack booted control.
35 posted on 02/19/2010 9:34:49 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Baynative

The San Juan Islands a National Monument? They are a beautful place to visit, but do they realize the retrictions that come along with making a place a National Monument? Never mind, dumb question, I think they do.


36 posted on 02/19/2010 9:35:52 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Touch Not the Cat; Prospero

Have you seen Prospero’s post #31?

The Western States have already lost their rights to their land.

Can any of this Federal land ownership be rescinded? How could that be accomplished?

Constitutional amendment?


39 posted on 02/19/2010 9:52:22 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

I wonder what the republican hypocrites have to say about the monuments that Bush designated?


40 posted on 02/19/2010 9:53:50 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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