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Obama Eyes Western Land for National Monuments, Angering Some
fox news ^ | 2/18/2010 | fox news

Posted on 02/19/2010 7:50:52 AM PST by sodpoodle

More than a dozen pristine landscapes, wildlife habitats and scenic rivers in 11 Western states, some larger than Rhode Island and Delaware combined, are under consideration by the Obama administration to become America's newest National Monuments -- a decision the administration can make unilaterally without local input or congressional approval.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; bhosocialism; confiscation; kenyancommunism; naturalresources; socialism
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now he is unleashing his land grabbing gonads IN SECRET!
1 posted on 02/19/2010 7:50:52 AM PST by sodpoodle
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To: sodpoodle

He just wants to build giant statues to his greatness all over the West... what’s the problem with that? are you racist of something!

/s


2 posted on 02/19/2010 7:53:08 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (November is coming.)
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To: sodpoodle

Obama is a fool.


3 posted on 02/19/2010 7:53:56 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: sodpoodle

More and more land turned over to the government and removed from productive use: no mineral extraction, no energy production, no ranching — and these lands would be removed from the local property tax base.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 7:54:34 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: sodpoodle
From 2007. Came to mind for some reason....

That Trillion-Dollar Ripoff-- Clinton's Utah Coal Deal

5 posted on 02/19/2010 7:56:18 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: mewzilla

Obama’s new national parks.

The Uinta basin
The Bakken field


6 posted on 02/19/2010 7:58:03 AM PST by South Dakota (Drill baby, drill)
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To: La Lydia

According to internal Department of Interior documents leaked to a Utah congressman and obtained exclusively by Fox News, the mostly public lands include Arizona deserts, California mountains, Montana prairies, New Mexico forests, Washington islands and the Great Basins of Nevada and Colorado — TOTALING MORE THAN 13 MILLION ACRES.

Putting oil and gold OFF-LIMITS!!


7 posted on 02/19/2010 7:58:21 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle
Quite a number of years ago National Geographic released a map showing "federally owned" lands in the United States. I'm glad I still have it.

It makes quite a prop for a future debate as it is simply astonishing. Basically, half the continental US and 95 percent of Alaska are owned by Washington.

I think if most Americans saw that one map the tolerance for unilateralism in "protecting" more land in the U.S. would evaporate.

There's bound to be the equivalent map somewhere on the net.

8 posted on 02/19/2010 7:59:59 AM PST by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: La Lydia

Just another small step in Nobama’s destruction of America.
FUBO


9 posted on 02/19/2010 8:00:07 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: sodpoodle

Wait a minute... there might be legal precedent. Of course! Land-snatching!

Land, land... "Land: see Snatch."

Ah, Haley vs. United States. Haley: 7, United States: nothing. You see, it can be done!

10 posted on 02/19/2010 8:00:47 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Prospero

What about STATES’ RIGHTS in this equation?

The world is upside down;(


11 posted on 02/19/2010 8:00:54 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

His unstated intention is to make them trash dumps for NYC, Detroit and Los Angeles.


12 posted on 02/19/2010 8:01:51 AM PST by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: sodpoodle

Downtown Chicago would be a good place to take land off the tax rolls.


13 posted on 02/19/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by rod1
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To: La Lydia

Yes to all. Thanks for noticing. It’s a scandal.


14 posted on 02/19/2010 8:02:18 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: sodpoodle
While he may be able to make the lands National Monuments, the next president can rescind them.
15 posted on 02/19/2010 8:05:52 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: sodpoodle

“More than a dozen pristine landscapes, wildlife habitats and scenic rivers in 11 Western states, some larger than Rhode Island and Delaware combined...”

We all love a pretty view, what we object to is this federal takeover will bar access for most activities on these designated National Monuments. There will be restrictions on roads, trails, number of users per seasons, no timber management (cutting), no mining or drilling, no off road vehicles, hunting, etc. Plus, the federal payroll will grow as rangers and law enforcement will be hired.

Maybe, some federal funds would be better spent to help the states where the lands are do some preservation steps that would still allow fair use of the areas. Let the people who live there and know the needs make some decisions.


16 posted on 02/19/2010 8:06:04 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: sodpoodle

And I know off-roaders that keep voting for the rat scum because they just don’t get it.

I hope the Mad Max days come while I’m still alive...there are some greenies
that need a big cluestick delivered personally.


17 posted on 02/19/2010 8:06:26 AM PST by soycd
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To: sodpoodle

This is the issue that first led me to FreeRepublic. I was doing some searches for articles on economics back in 2002 (or was it 2001?) and came across a lengthy article on FR that said there is a good reason for Washington to be gobbling up all of the land it can in resource-laden areas... those resources are the collateral for our debts. They need more under their control to assuage the fears of foreign entity purchasers of our debt.

Why can’t we drill for our own oil or mine our own land? Because Washington has already used it for collateral.

Glenn Beck made a great comment yesterday... why did we buy Alaska in the first place? Did we see it as a great tourist destination? No! We bought it for its natural resources. Now, we aren’t allowed to go get them...


18 posted on 02/19/2010 8:08:36 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: sodpoodle

They have been doing this for years before he got there. The government grabs all it can.


19 posted on 02/19/2010 8:11:04 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: sodpoodle
In 1996, President Clinton turned 1.3 million acres of southern Utah into the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument without telling the Arizona or Utah congressional delegation. Highly controversial at the time, the designation has withstood numerous legal challenges to the president's authority, and the national monument remains one of Clinton's boldest environmental accomplishments.

This spin on this Clinton move is a complete load of crap.

This land is not remarkable in any environmental way. It's standard western scrubland.

The reason it needed to be "preserved" was because it was one of only two sources of sulfur free coal on earth and that coal needed to be kept of the market. This was a payoff to the Riady family of Indonesia, who own the only other major source of clean burning coal, making their coal much more valuable. The Riady family funneled millions in illegal campaign contributions to the Clinton reelection campaign.

I wonder who Obama is paying off with these moves.

20 posted on 02/19/2010 8:11:10 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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