AZ-Sen. 2010: The Mac Is Back, Again (Romney may campaign for McCain!) (McCain attacks Birthers)

Hey hey, ho ho
McLame has got to go!

Actually, McCain DOES have Fred Thompson campaigning for him.

My opinion of BOTH Palin and Romney is suffering because of their support for this insufferable Boor!!!!!

While it wouldn't surprise me if Romney ended up supporting McCain (certainly after the primary, if not before), at this point Romney is NOT supporting McCain; McCain is just saying he would like Romney.

My guess is it came up because McCain has Scott Brown coming to campaign for him, and Romney's team did Scott Brown's campaign.

Well, McCain has Sarah Palin and Fred Thompson endorsing him. So what does that say about your “birds of a feather” theory?

RINOs of a feather...flock together!

“Well, McCain has Sarah Palin and Fred Thompson endorsing him. So what does that say about your “birds of a feather” theory?”

You’ll have to ask Thompson and Palin what part of McLame’s amnesty, cap and tax, and bank bailout proposals they like better than Hayworth’s.

I know where I stand on those issues and so I won’t be supporting McQueeg.

JDforSenate.com

Sending more money today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO JD!!!!

I am a Conservative.   I make no apologies for being one.

I support Conservatism and all of it tenets. I support the most Conservative candidate. I support solid Conservative policy.

I respect our Founding Fathers and what they tried to achieve. Our guaranteed rights are rock solid. Our Constitution is a very important document, it's early form prior to 1800, a very wise well thought out set of tenets. Some modifications since then, are problematic, but not beyond repair.

It is always my intention to support Conservatives and avoid supporting people who join it's detractors to help marginalize or defeat it, by design or ignorance. I am not two faced about it. You won't find me explaining away the past antics of some person I want to support, because I don't want others to hold those antics against them. I will be frank about what they have done, and ask others to weigh those negatives as part of a comprehensive wise decision that takes everything into consideration. Not surprisingly, that's precisely the policy I will ask folks to abide by, if I object to a candidate.

If I make a mistake and back a policy that was wrong, you won't have to come and tell me what I have done. I will come to the forum on my own and explain what I did and why I think it was a mistake to have done it. I'm not perfect.   I make the occasional mistake. That being said, you won't go back and find literally hundreds of things I have said and done on different matters over fifty years, that were completely 180 degrees off the mark as it relates to Conservatism.

I came by most of my beliefs naturally. I didn't have Republicans telling me what to think in my teens. My parents didn't talk to me about Conservatism, Democrats or Republicans. And when I did register, I registered in the party that most closely represented my beliefs. And truth be told, I didn't grasp all tenets of Conservatism until the early 1990s, but that being said, I was 95% of the way there by then. I mention this, because I don't want folks to think they have fully arrived at Conservatism by their mid-twenties. A full comprehensive understanding of Conservatism on all tenets will come to folks at different times in their life, but we should not put ourselves into a position of thinking we have arrived at a full understanding at any point in our life. There is always time and a reason to ask ourselves if we need to think something out more thoroughly.

Most kids think they have arrived at adulthood and full understanding at 21. Most people at fifty plus understand what a fallacy that is. It's no difference with politics. And in truth, some people will never grow up intellectually, even at 100. That's why I always question my own understanding and motives. I am open to changing my mind at all times, if it is truly warranted. I am obligated to question everything. That being said, I have come to the place that I have questioned all my beliefs to the point I accept all but views on current issues to be just about beyond question. Even then, my core beliefs generally make those decisions very easy.

Our Founding Fathers and our U.S. Constitution are examples of men and documents that were as close to perfection as they could be as it relates to sound governance. There are no finer documents that have been handed down prior to or since by mortal men, at the establishment of a new nation. There is no finer intent on display by mortal men, that casts them as more dedicated to doing what was right, than that of our Founding Fathers. And those who seek to defeat their desires and the Constitution's tenets are enemies of our nation. If you try to abridge our rights, if you try to push things that damage our sovereignty, if you just don't get it time after time after time, you are unfit to lead. You will never get my support. And those who run against you with higher values will.

Our nation is in the death throws fighting for it's very life. Leftists have pulled no punches and are trying to overturn our Constitution, to turn this nation into a socialist bicameral or unicameral government, the fewer checks and balances the better. There has been an effort to silence those who object to bad policy. And every time the lights of Conservatism are turned out on one more available public office, those who object to bad policy are quieter by one voice, and those who support bad policy are louder by one voice. And as that takes place, the total objectives of the left come one step closer to realization.

Along the way, we have come to the conclusion that many in our own party have lost their way. We lament daily those who front for leftist ideology. We have come to the conclusion that we must return to our founding principles, if we are to turn this nation around. We look forward to the next election, sometimes for as much as six years, with the knowledge that we must replace a person on our side who has gone astray, so that we can move the entire body of Conservative office holders and thus the nation back toward the right. It goes without saying what our goal needs to be with Democrat office holders, but it isn't said enough what we must do with our own.

Seeing the intransigence of Republican leadership, we have embraced the Tea Party movement.

Folks, do Tea Party movements pop up when they are not needed? Do good solid Conservatives rush out to support such causes when they are not desperately needed. Do they shun an organized leadership to back an effort with very little organized leadership, for no reason?

As a group here, we realize that something is not only terribly wrong with our nation's leadership, but there is something terribly wrong with the leadership we have chosen to represent us as Conservatives. All too often our leadership has been willing to reach out across the isle in a bipartisainship trip down the road to destruction. And so it is said here frequently, we must turn this ship around if we are to save this nation. This isn't just an empty phrase. We have come to this determination after decades of observation, and the realization that our nation has moved dangerously, almost terminally left.

Our party leaders say that Reaganism is dead. They express views that mirror the left, that Conservatives are something akin to damaged people, their desires some manifestation of well-meaning (or not) lunacy. In the most extreme cases, they say things like, "I like the Democrat Party and their goals.", or "You have nothing to fear from a devout Marxsist administration, led by someone who has socialized with people who absolutely despise our Founding Fathers, our Founding Documents, and the United States as it existed at the end of Reagan's administration."

How can I possibly stand up for a person who would fit the model I described in the last paragraph? How can I stand up and defend someone who would stand up for such a person?

Folks, we have a number of boards and organizations in my city. You do too. Some of those boards and committees may be run by bad people. None the less, if a bad leader of a group asks you or me to join, wouldn't we be obligated to weigh the benefits of joining in an effort to help turn that group around?   Would we be wrong to join with that goal in mind? Of course not. After joining such a board, would we be an ungrateful individual if we voted against the bad leader who asked us to join? Of course not. And if that leader were to run for public office after bringing us on a board, would we be obligated to support them as a flawed individual? Of course not. It would be our moral obligation to support sound people and policies and retain our moral obligation to vote for them.

Can someone seriously tell me they think it would show character to back a person whose policies were bad for my community, just because they brought me on a local board? Can someone tell me with a straight face that it would show moral character to support them for public office, knowing their goals were detrimental to my community? To the contrary, I would be a moral relativist to explain away this person's poor policies, and back them just because they brought me on the board. And if they tried to use my name as a person who supported their activity, I would have to stand up and differentiate my views with theirs. I would be morally obligated to do so. And if another more solid person were running against them, I would have to support the views and candidacy of the better person. That would be the moral thing to do, the only path to the expression of a wholesome character. And if neither candidate were of high moral fiber, it would be my obligation to weight heavily supporting either one.

One of the best ways to break down an issue, is to take certain views and blow them out to the extreme.

We are told today that it shows character to back people who helped us along the way. If that is true, then we can never expect replacements of our current party leaders to be more sound on policy than the person they replaced. The people who supported the candidate that is leaving office, will more often than not be the people who make the decision to support his replacement. So when they come a calling, the very act of them supporting the new candidate, would obligate that candidate morally to back their views. And that is what has taken place, isn't it. We have good people go to Washington, D.C., and they have been coopted.

That's the moral conundrum those who support a person backing an extremely flawed individual for re-election, because that person once did them a favor, have to come to terms with.

Are any of us morally obligated to completely ignore our own moral standards simply because someone who doesn't share them once did us a favor no matter how big?

If the answer to that is yes, then check your Conservatism at the door. Similar claims of obligation will be claimed at every election, and Conservatism might just as well fold up it's tent and die.

If we can't support a man like J.D. Hayworth against a man like John MeCain today, then when can we?

We will never see a worse candidate to represent Conservatism on a Republican national ticket than John MeCain. And if we can't stand up to him, then Reaganism IS truly dead.

Rush, I don't say this often, but you should be ashamed of yourself.

Folks, don't come on this forum to say that we need to turn things around anymore, if you support MeCain today. This is your opportunity to strike a blow against the status quo. This is the time to turn things around. This is your opening. Use it or lose it.

If you can't work up the muster to oppose John now, you never will. And if you can't oppose an extremely flawed individual today, then how can you be expected to do so in the future? And if you cannot object to an extremely flawed individual today, how can you be expected to object to someone who is flawed to a lessor degree at another time?

This is a defining time for Conservatives. Either you are one and can only support people and policies that advance your cause, or you are a leftist and can only support people and policies that advance your cause.

Anyone who thinks John MeCain's candidacy is an example of middle-ground, at the very least, has temporarily lost their way.

Character? Morality? Loyalty? These are all good words, but even good words can be bastardized to destroy their wholesome meaning.

I will oppose the candidacy of John MeCain with every fiber of my being. I will weigh heavily the implications concerning those who can't.

Left or right folks? Which path is it to be over the next six years?

Morality is calling. So is moral relativism. Whose call will you answer?

By the memory of Ronald Reagan, I have made my determination clear. He is not dead to me.

John MeCain, tear down this wall. Let Conservatives have a voice. Quit siding with marxists to defeat our movement.

{i}“We have the letters and legislative records to prove it. And we will.[/i]

So.. the "infamous" Abramoff black book McCain glomed onto when he was head of the committee investigating Abramoff, which led to him "blackmailing" Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed into supporting his run in 2008 is going to be trotted out again to try and destroy JD... McCain is pure unadulterated slime.... oh, and McCain got $100K funneled to him from the Abramoff law firm so he was able to "claim" he had clean hands, when he didn't... this was all pretty much ignored by the MSM during the election, but well documented on (no shock) DU and KOS. There is also the gambling McCain loves (loved) to do in Indian Casino's with Indian gambling lobbyists.

I don’t find his lack of bringing taxpayers money back to Arizona particularly admirable.

I will resent until the day I die the fact that I once voted for this vile scumbag and I had to hold my nose the entire time.

Never again!

WHY the heck is Brown helping this bastard???

It goes beyond politics with McCain. He is a trying nasty, irritable and vicious person. That came out well in the primary debates. And his collegaues have said it about him on numerous occasions.

Don't expect the Repugnant to support JD over McCain -- ain't gonna happen, and the Phoenix New Times HATES Arpaio and will use his support of JD to not support JD either...... this is going to be a tough fight and this article at Kos really gives the word on the ammo McCain may use to try and pull his ass out of the fire.... we will see how dirty JD is willing to get in this:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/23/03912/3990

You bet! Hayworth! Last thing McCain wants to deal with is the fact that he betrayed the constitution and people by not forcing Obama to release all those hidden records on his background. He also hates us way more than he hates commie Obammie.

I think it would be easy for Hayworth to turn the tables on McCain regarding ‘birther’:

We are the “Show me” Crowd — show me the birth certificate.

[To borrow the Show Me State’s motto.]

We are called ‘birthers’ mostly by people who think giving birth is obscene and abortion is cool. We must honor the true ‘birthers’ who brought us into this world.

Some people tell us to focus on other issues. I would rather they said ‘prioritize’. Focus means ‘telescopic site’, which is lousy when you have a lot of moving targets.

Obama, the Mystery Man — why did McCainiac suppress important questions?

He’s too secretive. He might be other peoples’ president, but I don’t think of him as mine until he proves he’s constitutionally qualified.

Tigerseye has a list of just how secretive the left’s president is:

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham’s divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

WND’s archive of news reports on Certifigate
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546

Recent Link Blasts on Certifigate by SatinDoll:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=268#268

Root Link for Feb 2010:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=299#299

“It goes beyond politics with McCain. He is a trying nasty, irritable and vicious person.”

Unless he knows you’re a sleazeball like Obama.

“Sarah, I understand. Not Mitt.”

I agree. And frankly, I would have respected Palin more if she simply avoided Arizona. But I respect multi-generational canniabals for following tradition and must give Sarah the same level of respect on this.

Is Mr. Spock campaigning for McCainiac too?

As long as no one seems at all interested in answering these questions I have near zero trust for any pols or pundits. It is beyond bizarre that our POTUS could conceal so much info about himself and be acceptable.

Indians, Lobbyists and Arizona Politics...OH MY!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2440173/posts
[McCain neck deep in it.]

Hayworth Campaign Site:
http://www.jd2010.com