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HI Attorney General’s office refuses to corroborate Obama’s HI Birth
THE POST AND EMAIL ^ | Feb. 2, 2010 | John Charlton

Posted on 02/04/2010 3:37:43 AM PST by 1234

While political momentum is building within the Democratic Party from coast to coast to make the issue of Obama’s claims to be born in Hawaii a litmus test for its political opponents in the 2010 general elections for Congress, a key component in such a strategy has been undermined by the Hawaii Attorney General’s Office.

In correspondence with The Post & Email, Jill T. Nagamine, Deputy Attorney General for the State of Hawaii, has made it clear that her office will not corroborate or back in any way the July 27, 2009 Statement of Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, which declared Obama Hawaiian-born and a “natural-born American citizen.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certificategate; eligibility; obama
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To: 1234

I will not travel to HI until the documents are released.
I wish all conservatives would declare this too.


21 posted on 02/04/2010 4:24:22 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: F15Eagle

Fukino statement explained

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago....”

Barack has three birth records on file with the HI DoH. Dr. Fukino has examined those vital records (plural).

1) Original Birth Record states Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI.

2) Adoption Birth Record, circa 1965-66, supercedes the original birth record and states Barry Soetoro was born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI. It lists Lolo Soetoro as Barry's father.

3) Dissolution Birth Record, circa 1971-72, supercedes the original birth record and the adoption birth record and states Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI with Barack Obama Sr. listed as the father.

The reason the Dissolution Birth Record does not have a hospital administrator signature or doctor's signature is because it was created by a Court ORDER after the Soetoro adoption was voided.

Barack's ineligibility evolves from his Indonesian National status as Barry Soetoro. Indonesia does not accept dual citizens. Barry Soetoro requested and received a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the U.S. State Department before Indonesia would acknowledge Barry Soetoro as one of its citizens.

Barack/Barry exploited the fact it is assumed a person with a HI COLB is an American citizen. Some HI COLBs are issued to noncitizen adoptees. Barack/Barry's ineligiibility is like low hanging fruit at the State Department.
22 posted on 02/04/2010 4:24:48 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Clever tag line can only be seen on the other Internets.)
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To: Spaulding

McCain was born on a US Military base in Panama. This is considered “US Soil”, just like if he was born in an Embassy.


24 posted on 02/04/2010 4:33:14 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: 1234

I read the poorly written, almost unintelligible article, and I have no idea whether the article actually says what the headline claims.


25 posted on 02/04/2010 4:33:34 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Spaulding
McCain was born on a US Military base in Panama to American parents. This is considered "US Soil", just like if he was born in an Embassy.

Not quite the same as Barry's situation.

26 posted on 02/04/2010 4:33:49 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Spaulding

The headline is not supported by the response received.


27 posted on 02/04/2010 4:43:24 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

“Barack has three birth records on file with the HI DoH. Dr. Fukino has examined those vital records (plural).

1) Original Birth Record states Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI.

2) Adoption Birth Record, circa 1965-66, supercedes the original birth record and states Barry Soetoro was born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI. It lists Lolo Soetoro as Barry’s father.

3) Dissolution Birth Record, circa 1971-72, supercedes the original birth record and the adoption birth record and states Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI with Barack Obama Sr. listed as the father.

The reason the Dissolution Birth Record does not have a hospital administrator signature or doctor’s signature is because it was created by a Court ORDER after the Soetoro adoption was voided.”

What is your source for this? I have never seen it in print anywhere.


28 posted on 02/04/2010 4:44:29 AM PST by freepdawg
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To: Diogenesis

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/11/first-hand-witness-to-obama-admitting.html


29 posted on 02/04/2010 4:44:44 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: 1234

Obama tells visitor

“Hey. Mombasa!!! That’s where I was born !!!”

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/11/first-hand-witness-to-obama-admitting.html


30 posted on 02/04/2010 4:45:32 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: SvenMagnussen

I think you have it right. His wife has even been quoted about this.


31 posted on 02/04/2010 4:46:24 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: 1234

direct link to the story
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/02/hi-attorney-generals-office-refuses-to-corroborate-obamas-hi-birth/


32 posted on 02/04/2010 4:49:42 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Spaulding
The afterbirthers will be here soon to pooh pooh your natural born definition.
33 posted on 02/04/2010 4:50:51 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: 1234
THIS IS NOT ABOUT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

BHO is NOT a natural born citizen, having been born with dual citizenship.
How can you be a NBC with dual citizenship?

Proper Tea Party Attire:


34 posted on 02/04/2010 5:01:48 AM PST by TexasVoter (No Constituion - No Union!)
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To: SvenMagnussen

“Barack’s ineligibility evolves from his Indonesian National status as Barry Soetoro. Indonesia does not accept dual citizens. Barry Soetoro requested and received a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the U.S. State Department before Indonesia would acknowledge Barry Soetoro as one of its citizens.”

Where did you get this info??? Hillary would have this info if true


35 posted on 02/04/2010 5:18:41 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: 1234

36 posted on 02/04/2010 5:23:17 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error!)
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To: Diogenesis

Birther Bump!


37 posted on 02/04/2010 5:33:30 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Barry Soetoro requested and received a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the U.S. State Department before Indonesia would acknowledge Barry Soetoro as one of its citizens

How do we know this?

Without this the whole Indonesian episode is moot per the State Dept.

Of course, having a British father also eliminates one from being a Natural Born Citizen, but this would be the icing on the cake.

38 posted on 02/04/2010 6:11:43 AM PST by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
3) Dissolution Birth Record, circa 1971-72, supercedes the original birth record and the adoption birth record and states Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI with Barack Obama Sr. listed as the father.

Now you know why Barack Hussein Obama Sr., although broke, made a trip halfway around the world to visit the Dunhams -- Barry had a scholarship to Punahou but couldn't attend as a foreign alien -- a citizen of Indonesia.

Senior's Christmas Visit


39 posted on 02/04/2010 6:38:50 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Eye of Unk
You must not listen to Beck. If you do, not very carefully.

What Glenn Beck said is that if Hillary Clinton could not find that Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, is not eligible to be president, you are not going to find that he is ineligible.

His comments were that Hillary has the ability to dig up the dirt on anyone, has a mechanism in place to do it again, etc.

Now although I do not necessarily agree that everyone should give up just because Hillary failed, I can sympathize and respect Beck for his position.

The one problem I have with that is that knowing how mercenary Hillary Clinton is, I can't help but wonder if she decided that it was better to climb on the band wagon and ride to the pot of gold at the end of the road rather than fight what was at that time the inevitable.

As for getting Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, out of office with the real birth certificate, that is never going to happen. Even if the birthers find what they want, it will take 3 to 5 years to wind its way through the courts.

The real value of a birth certificate showing him to be ineligible will be the political fall out. Finding him ineligible would destroy the dim party in the next several election cycles.

40 posted on 02/04/2010 6:50:44 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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