HI Attorney General’s office refuses to corroborate Obama’s HI Birth

THE POST AND EMAIL ^ | Feb. 2, 2010 | John Charlton

[1234]

While political momentum is building within the Democratic Party from coast to coast to make the issue of Obama’s claims to be born in Hawaii a litmus test for its political opponents in the 2010 general elections for Congress, a key component in such a strategy has been undermined by the Hawaii Attorney General’s Office.

In correspondence with The Post & Email, Jill T. Nagamine, Deputy Attorney General for the State of Hawaii, has made it clear that her office will not corroborate or back in any way the July 27, 2009 Statement of Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, which declared Obama Hawaiian-born and a “natural-born American citizen.”

[1234]

How 'bout that!

[Man50D]

Jeff Kuhner on WTNT in DC is going to dedicate an entire show to Obama’s birth certificate issue!

[doodad]

the July 27, 2009 Statement of Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, which declared Obama Hawaiian-born and a “natural-born American citizen.”

I don't recall that being the actual statement. And I have followed this issue. The Dir said she had seen it and it was on file.

[kingattax]

“how ‘bout that” is right.

all it takes is one small crack to break the dam.

[Recon Dad]

the Democratic Party from coast to coast to make the issue of Obama’s claims to be born in Hawaii a litmus test for its political opponents in the 2010 general elections for Congress

Just like Scott Brown's answering the question about the “Kennedy Seat” this gotcha line will end up costing the left 10 more seats
As any lawyer worth his salt would tell you, “Don't ask a question you don't already know the answer to before you ask it”.

[Diogenesis]

HI Attorney General’s office UNABLE to corroborate Obama’s HI Birth

[RightOnline]

I love Glenn Beck....and sorta tolerate Bill O’Reilly....but they both drive me nuts with their insistence on pooh-poohing the whole BHO birth certificate issue. I mean, I just don’t get it.

I am a strong believer in Occam’s Razor: the simplest, most obvious answer/solution is usually correct. A man going to such lengths to hide the truth about his birth certificate (including spending over $2M so far to quash lawsuits regarding same)......quite simply has something to hide.

I’m a 54-year-old man, and I can produce my ORIGINAL birth certificate in a heartbeat. BHO can’t....and the reasons are obvious.

This IS a legitimate question, a legitimate issue, and should be investigated to the bitter end. It could, I realize, lead to a Constitutional crisis the likes of which the country has never seen.

Should be fun.

[Eye of Unk]

Beck and BOR are simply limpet fish, kill the shark and they will starve.

Simple law of nature.

[castlegreyskull]

I like the people that defend Obama and say, “well it is a privacy thing.” My response is “He is welcome to his privacy, but he isn’t welcome to the Whitehouse then, he needs to prove that he abides by the Constitution.”

[Diogenesis]

Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.”
It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in.
In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9)
.... there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.”
The statute provided that “the probative value of a ‘delayed’ or ‘altered’ certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year.
(See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.)
In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”

[sodpoodle]

****It could, I realize, lead to a Constitutional crisis the likes of which the country has never seen.

Should be fun.****

We must accept that the potential for such a crisis (as you aptly describe), is being discussed at the highest levels of government and in think tanks throughout this nation and others.

I don’t believe any of those who already know the facts, expect the truth will result in *fun*.....which is why it is being hidden - by everyone.

[Gondring]

I don't recall that being the actual statement. And I have followed this issue. The Dir said she had seen it and it was on file.

I noted that, too. Plus, the writer makes an unwarranted leap of logic to reach his conclusion/claim.

[Huebolt]

Hawaii could become famous for something more momentous than PEARL HARBOR...

BTW, "No comment" often means "You want to get me killed?"

[nhwingut]

Bill O has the proof in his hands.

Two, that’s 2, newspapers listed him born in HI on the same day. End of story.

/s

[RightOnline]

OK, well “fun” was a bit on the sarcastic side. Still, it WILL be ‘fun’ to watch the left and their allies absolutely implode IF this happens. I can see it now............and it’d be delicious.

[mkjessup]

It could, I realize, lead to a Constitutional crisis the likes of which the country has never seen.

It won't be a crisis, just frog march the Kenyan usurper out of the White House via U.S. Marshals, ship his azz to Ft Leavenworth, and as Groucho Marx once said 'line 'em up against the wall, and pop goes the weasel'.

After conviction for the crime of treason by a military tribunal of course.

[Spaulding]

F15 in post 8 quoted Fukino. That was her statement. While I believe Obama may be able to show citizenship with whatever remain of his his “vital records”, he cannot change whom he has claimed as his father, or retract his statement that he was born subject of the British Commonwealth. A birth certificate is not necessary to validate Obama's illegitimacy. The founders required that both parents be citizens to be a natural born citizen, along with having been born on the soil of the country. McCain failed that requirement which may be why he was chosen to run, and helped with support from George Soros.