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Endorsement of McCain alienates Palin supporters
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 2010-01-26 | Jay Bookman

Posted on 01/26/2010 2:17:50 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: FreeReign

he liked Romeny because of the “CEO” status


381 posted on 01/27/2010 1:31:45 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: SoCalPol

Yes I have, as you label it, conveniently left out McCain’s five and one half years. What we get from that period of time is conflicting information. Some say he acted honorably during that time and others say he provided information to the NVC, and participated in propaganda above and beyond what he should have, and got special treatment for it.

Since I cannot know what actually took place, I refrain from addressing that period. I don’t heap praise on McCain, and I don’t criticize. I’ll leave that to others. And others have weighed in.

I consider the U.S. P.O.W. experience in Vietnam to be perhaps the pinnacle thing we can ask a fellow citizen to endure for his/her nation. If it was not a holy religious experience for them, it was probably as close to one as it could be, without it actually being one.

Some people think we should honor all P.O.W.s. I don’t believe that is our only obligation. We are obligated to hold deep respect for our honorable P.O.W.s. That much is undeniable. I also believe are owe it to honorable P.O.W.s to hold dishonorable P.O.W.s. to account.

All this being said I don’t honestly know which John is. A good case can be made for either scenario, and they have been. I’m not Solomon on this so I take no position.

I will admit to not being able to comprehend the driving force behind McCain’s seeming respect for Vietnam’s politicos. Even his former P.O.W. prison guards are treated like long lost friends. Considering how Hanoi Hilton P.O.W.s were, treated that astounds me.

What we do know from John’s own recollection and the recollection of others is that John liked to fight in grade school. He made his way to West Point, screwed around there and graduated fourth from the bottom of his class of just short of 900 people.

Despite this John was allowed to enter flight school. There he continued to screw around. Around this time John lost two aircraft. Some reports state be was screwing around each time. This raises serious questions about whether John’s immature screw-up mentality had been grown out of by the time his active duty was in full swing, another thing I don’t know for sure. None of us do.

So when John brings up his military service for me to salute, I see a big question mark. I don’t salute question marks.

John got out of the service and was elected to Congress. He then proceeded to accept favors from Charles Keating. John took over $13,000 in favors that be didn’t report for 5 to 7 years. He only made restitution once it became clear the gift would be discovered anyway.

Then John interceded inappropriately on behalf of Keating with regulators.

John scated on all that. and since those days be has been backing leftist policy whenever the mood moved him, which was fairly often.

When it comes to character, what we do know about the man is enough. He’s been far too willing to sell out his own political party at the drop of a hat, so there hasn’t been any character on display.

He’s made his mark. It’s time for him to retire.


382 posted on 01/27/2010 3:09:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne (God, Family, Friends, Home, Town, State, the U.S., Conservatism, Free Republic & a dollar a day...)
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To: sickoflibs

I find it absolutely hilarious you’re pinging Romney supporters to trash Sarah for supporting a RINO.


383 posted on 01/27/2010 4:24:07 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Recall I defended Sanford to the hilt the day his confessional came out. I support Palin for President, I do not support her endorsement, it’s that simple.


384 posted on 01/27/2010 4:24:21 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: FreeReign
So then if it turns out that Sarah quit because she was preparing for a presidential run, you would agree she did the right thing.

___________________________________________________

Absolutely not.

Her quitting in Alaska shows weakness not strength regardless of her fans' spinning. If it turns out she quit to clear the road for a POTUS run it shows bald opportunism.

And, if she runs, she will have to answer this question often...

"Mrs. Palin, we know what it took to get you to quit as governor - what would it take to get you to quit as president?"

It is a deal killer for all but her most emotional fans.

385 posted on 01/27/2010 4:38:08 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: ansel12

What made abortion legal was the SCOTUS assuming authority over abortion and sexual practices like homo-sodomy. This is my problem with Sarah-ists. That always end up being State-ist compassionate conservatives that want to grow federal power thinking republicans will always be in power to run it.

I want it back like 1972 where states could outlaw all abortions. I am not for federal murder or hate crimes laws either.


386 posted on 01/27/2010 5:05:03 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: rintense; GOP_Lady; Bokababe; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”I find it absolutely hilarious you’re pinging Romney supporters to trash Sarah for supporting a RINO

Not if you read #306

It is all part of the grand conspiracy against Sarah. The MSM, the establishment, the left, the Romneys, the Pauls, the Hucks, the Rudies,... all conspiring against ‘our the one’Sarah. Why? Because she is a threat to evil. This conspiracy proves she is ‘the good one’ to take down Obama (the bad 'one').. Only one could organize such a grand opposition (evil libertarians and Mormons and liberals) against our RINO supporting Saviour... Satan himself!

387 posted on 01/27/2010 5:10:16 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs
Laughable. But, you've been here long enough to know that Palin's biggest detractors are from two camps: Romney and Paul.

So tell me, oh enlightened one, which of those names you listed, is more conservative than Sarah? Which of those names you listed has the most to gain with Sarah's standing diminished?

What *specific* policies of Sarah's do you have a problem with? Or are you another one of the style over substance people?

388 posted on 01/27/2010 5:14:39 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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RE :”What *specific* policies of Sarah's do you have a problem with? Or are you another one of the style over substance people?

Policies? You are claiming she has policies? That is the problem. She is a cult-figure with a tiny group of people. And even they are getting discouraged now. She won't even run because she knows she has no chance of winning(plus she's terrified of non-puff interviews.)

Add another enemy to your list : J.D. Hayworth Palin, McCain and Why Vote for J.D. Hayworth

389 posted on 01/27/2010 5:26:10 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

Who are these “Romney supporters”?. I have a long history of supporting Duncan Hunter, with hundreds of posts to back it up
I only switched to Fred Thompson(albeit reluctantly) when Hunter failed to take hold. When Thompson fizzled, there was nothing left but frauds ;-)


390 posted on 01/27/2010 5:30:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

RE :”Who are these “Romney supporters”?.

You cant tell for sure. Everyone questioning Sarah secetly is working for someone else trying to unseat her as media queen. There is evil all over this site. To fight evil (anyone questioning Sarah) you must attack not defend.

Lately I am being accused of being a Paulist because of my liberty-anti-federal-statist views. But Paul doesn’t tingle my leg as a saviour either. He is no Reagan. Reagan was a (the greatest) visionary and a true leader even if we don’t agree with everything he did.


391 posted on 01/27/2010 5:41:27 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs
I'll tell you what. Why don't you go read her facebook page and then post when you actually have information to form an opinion. In fact, much of her policy statements are available on FR as well as in her book. Even Rush Limbaugh said her book was one of the most substantive of policy that he's ever read.

Who should freepers believe? A man who has millions of devoted listeners and is the leading conservative pundit in this country? Or you?

So why don't you go do some actual reading before tossing uneducated, ill-informed opinions out here, ok, hon? But, we all know you won't. Its so much easier to lob grenades and run. You are no different than the liberals who are trashing her.

392 posted on 01/27/2010 5:42:00 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: sickoflibs
Darling, you clearly didn't read that post. That freeper posted reasons to vote for JD as opposed to throwing Sarah under the bus.

You're such a lightweight. Perhaps you should change your handle to 'sickoflogic'.

393 posted on 01/27/2010 5:46:20 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: sickoflibs

Then why don’t you tell us, oh enlightened one, who is the closest person we have to Reagan? And don’t use the cop out there isn’t one yet. Who is the closest to Reagan on the national scene at this point in time?


394 posted on 01/27/2010 5:48:27 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: SoCalPol

Honestly...

Who gives a f-—?

Im sick of hearing about how his time in Vietnam made him a “hero” and somehow qualifies him to be as big a friggen douche bag as he can possibly be without the risk of suffering the consequences of his douchebaggery.

Its time for McCain to step down and go home to his wife and fat a$$ daughter.

NO MORE RINO’s!


395 posted on 01/27/2010 5:49:07 AM PST by myself6
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To: rintense
Are you nuts? Reagan was a successful governor and a visionary. Your hero is a failed governor and a plagiarist. Visionaries don't get their talking points from talk radio.
396 posted on 01/27/2010 5:53:28 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

“Reagan was a (the greatest) visionary and a true leader even if we don’t agree with everything he did.”

Reagan was the best . He only made 2 promises to the people

1) Stop the spread of communism

2) Slash the income tax rate, to allow the people to prosper.

He kept both promises.

He made 2 mistakes that were noteworthy.

He signed a bill allowing for a small amnesty, no doubt believing the laws attached to it would be enforced.

He failed to dismantle the Dept. of Education, which today has a stranglehold on all local schools.

Aside from these two mistakes, he was a remarkable leader, and a remarkable man. He inspired an entire country to do their best, and to stay optimistic while pursuing excellence. A remarkable man!


397 posted on 01/27/2010 5:53:59 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: rintense
RE :”Even Rush Limbaugh said her book was one of the most substantive of policy that he's ever read.

Of course he did. She got them from listening to his show. That is how it works with Rush. I want something unique. No, I am not buying her book to read stuff she copied off rushlimbaugh.com. Is Rush talking about this McCain vs J.D. Hayworth election yet?

398 posted on 01/27/2010 5:54:35 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

When I say visionary I mean Reagan was forward looking and did not read polls to tell him what to say or do. He know his policies would recover the economy, he knew the USSR would fall if pushed back. And he didn’t leave us in any on-going wars. Clinton got a peace dividend from him which was part of the deficit reduction he took credit for.


399 posted on 01/27/2010 5:58:48 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

Ok, so now she’s a plagiarist and copies Rush’s stuff? This is rich! With each post you expose yourself as a liberal troll. BTW, the only people I’ve seen accusing Palin as a plagiarist on FR are either liberal trolls or Romney supporters.


400 posted on 01/27/2010 5:59:23 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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