Endorsement of McCain alienates Palin supporters

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 2010-01-26 | Jay Bookman

[rabscuttle385]

Sen. John McCain, the man who brought Sarah Palin to national prominence, is being challenged for re-election in the GOP primary by former U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth. Palin recently announced that she plans to travel to Arizona to campaign on McCain’s behalf, but posters on her Facebook page are not at all happy with their Sarah:

“Sarah, it was fun, but now you are done.”

“Sarah, your support of McCain shows bad judgment and brings into question the validity of your words. You can forget any political ambition if you support Amnesty – which John McCain does. Conservatives don’t forget.”

“You do know Senator McCain is a PROGRESSIVE? It is very disappointing that you are campaigning for him instead of J.D. Hayworth. McCain needs to go!”

“Sorry to hear that you are supporting McCain. Up to now, I thought you were part of the solution, but you’ve shown yourself to be part of the problem.”

“McCain!? Are you kidding me? Time to pick a side, Sarah– Are you with the people, or against them?”

“I agree with those who advise you not to campaign for Senator McCain. He really doesn’t represent the views of grassroot conservatives. He represents those in the GOP who have too often been willing to compromise on principle, or even worse, have failed to really understand basic conservative principles.”

“McCain used Palin like a cheap tool to keep from getting beat worse than Reagan did to Mondale. His staff mocked her and showed no respect. Now McCain is using her again like a cheap tool and this time she is willingly doing it under the guise of loyalty. As long as McCain is the face of the GOP, conservatives are irrelevant. Palin is playing politics and this goes against what she “supposedly” represents. She helps elect McCain, she’s done.”

“I respect your loyalty to McCain, Sarah, but he really is using you. You need to do what you are obligated to do for him, and then run as far away from him as possible. He’s widely despised in the Conservative movement, and you’ll be hurting yourself badly with your support base if you do more than offer your token support or speak on his behalf.”

“McCain is not a commonsense candidate. If you support him your future as a conservative candidate is over.”

“Another day ~ another appeal to our girl from Wasilla: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not follow through with your plan to campaign for John McCain. In the insightful words of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman: “Big mistake. Big. Huge.” To do so will destroy your credibility, have your enemies carping: “I told you so,” and leave your fans devastated.”

That’s just a small sampling of some 2,500 comments, and I have to admit to being surprised by the vehemence and near-unanimity of that sentiment. It makes me think that McCain might eventually have real trouble in the Arizona primary.

[rintense]

Not as pathetic as not providing a conservative alternate/comparison.

[pray4liberty]

I now have some thoughts I never thought I'd have with her. I don't like that feeling.

And that precisely is my point; that is what the liberals want to accomplish, to make Sarah stink to us. They need to injure her credibility, because she personally scares the hell out of them. They are trying to manipulate her supporters--to provide no support, no money, and NO VOTES. If they can make us mad and make us buy their BS, by tapping into and exploiting that justified wrath against Sarah, then they've won.

[sickoflibs]

It’s not a popularity thing, it’s a constitutional thing. If the founders thought popularity was #1, their would be no need for a constitution besides a national vote.

Plus, the same popularity and statism you are promoting for this specific argument, is an exact argument for abortion as a national right.

Its not 50% of states, it’s called state elections. All abortions were illegal in most of them before your statist vision made it a national right.

[sickoflibs]

The best you can do is answer a specific question about who you claim will be the next president, by claiming the question is really a statement?

You really think she would get away with that in an interview? Even she knows better and won’t run.

[beckysueb]

Yep. The rats divide and conquer seems to be working. Sheesh.

[ansel12]

What made abortion legal was your anti social conservative Supreme Court.

I’m still amazed that you see infanticide, (or partial birth abortion) as a state right.

[Gilbo_3]

do i even wanna ask what that is ??? heheheh...

[FreeReign]

Your response is nonsense.

When somebody asks what a person has said and then uses the word "besides" and then only names 5 rudimentry things, that would suggest that the person can't name at least a sixth item.

These are your words. .

sickolibs: What has she said besides :”Obama is bad, abortion is bad, drilling is good, tax cuts are good....McCain is good” ??

As I said, the "knowledgeable" sickoflibs tells us all he/she knows about Sarah Palin's comments on the issues of the day.

If you don't like Sarah Palin or if you don't think that Sarah Palin should be president, that's fine. But if misrepresent the numbers positions that she has taken, in her debates, speeches, interviews... I will call you out it.

[FreeReign]

You still haven’t answered the question I asked you in #354.

I’ll ask you again.

If Roe v. Wade was overturned would you be for a law in your state prohibiting abortion? (Yes or No)

[rabscuttle385]

It’s lettuce!

[FreeReign]

Palin-bot 'FreeReign'

BTW, your comment is either stupid or a lie.

I endorse no candidate at this time.

[rbmillerjr]

“Yep. The rats divide and conquer seems to be working. Sheesh”

Well, keep up in mind that they may pick off a few light supporters but Palin will still dominate the Conservative base in the Primary.

Also, more importantly,the VERY VOCAL group of fringers on on here are just that. They produce about .07 % to the vote and are absolutely irrelavent. *The pollsters aleady have that portion of the vote baked in the cake.

Give them credit, they are very loud for being insignificant.

[Ron H.]

Could be Sarah wanted to get in good with the establishment Republicans should she herself choose to run for office later.

...and risk lopping off a sizable chunk of her base in the process. Wise move? Me thinks not! For me I'm now viewing Palin through a lens of wary suspicion.

[Gondring]

You libel him.

[A CA Guy]

She is IMO trying to gather more people under her tent.

I guess she figures people will forgive her for backing the guy who brought her to national attention...MAYBE?

We’re all guessing, but what do I know?

My guess is she is working to make money, not a real serious future Presidential bid.

[Gilbo_3]

doh, capt obvious 'didnt make the connection'...

will we ever get representatives again, or just more wannabe millionaire celebs ???

[DoughtyOne]

John McCain's Whimsical World of Conservatism
Food for thought for the George Soros, Teressa Heinz Kerry, Tides Foundation et al  wing of the Republican Party.

1958/00/00 McCain graduates from Annapolis, 894th out of a class of 898.  McCain had conflicts with higher-ups, and he was disinclined to obey every rule.
1958/00/00 McCain loses the first of five aircraft he will lose over the period of his career as a Naval Pilot, contributing to him becoming a reverse Ace.  Poore states circa 1960.  Article here states 1958.  Ace McCain 
1960/00/00 McCain graduates from flight training.  He is required to do six arrested landings aboard the Training Aircraft Carrier, the USS Antietam, in the Gulf of Mexico to be certified.  He completes two.
1979/04/00 McCain meets Cindy Hensley.  She is 24, he is 42.  They start dating shortly thereafter. "I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening's end, I was in love."  Source: Dan Norwicki and Bill Muller LINK
1980/01/07 McCain officially ended cohabiting with Carol his first wife according to court documents.
1980/02/19 McCain sues Carol his first wife for divorce. Ronald and Nancy Reagan are not amused and rush to Carol's aid. Ed Meese and others step in to help Carol with jobs and lodging.
1980/03/06 McCain obtains marriage license to marry Cindy Hensley
1980/04/02 McCain's divorce to Carol is granted  (Carol does not contest this divorce, and doesn't enter into the procedings at all)
1980/05/17 McCain marries Cindy Hensley
1982/00/00 McCain enters Congress, with his family accepts first of nine trips some aboard Keating's leer jet, three of which include stayovers at Keating's Caribbean resort (goes unreported for up to 7 years)
1983/09/28 McCain joins 26 other Republicans to vote with the Majority Party Congressional Democrats to demand U.S. Troops exit Lebanon, winds up on the losing side
1986/04/00 McCain's wife Cindy and her father invest $359,100 in a Charles Keating strip mall
1987/00/00 McCain has received $112,000 by this time for Congressional and Senate campaigns, from Charles Keating, his relatives, and his employees, the largest amount to any Keating 5 member
1987/04/02 McCain joins four Democrats to intercede on behalf of his S&L Owner friend Keating with Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board and also banking regulators (2 meetings)
1988/02/11 McCain votes to affirm Anthony Kennedy as a justice for the SCOTUS
1989/00/00 McCain discloses Keating trips as his involvement in the S&L scandal breaks, reimbursing $13,433.00 with no repercussions as late as seven years after the fact
1990/10/02 McCain votes to Confirm Justice David H. Souter from New Hampshire to be an Associate Justice on the SCOTUS Court
1993/10/10 McCain co-sponsors an unsuccessful bill to cut off funding of United States troops in Somalia
1993/08/10 McCain joins the Democrats and most Republicans voting to confirm Ruth Bader Ginsberg, the worst justice on the court today.  Three Republicans vote Nay.
1993/01/13 McCain and John Kerry release the Select Committee report urging the MIA issue be put to rest so that Vietnam could be granted normalized relations with the U.S., over objections by MIA family and veterans groups.  Video1  Video2  ( I do not endorse all of the information presented in video1 here.  The video does touch on a number of topics, and I think most are germane )  If I could have found video that contained most of this information without touching on McCain's POW experience I would have posted it instead.  Still, there are parts of McCain's POW experience that are troubling.  I'd just rather not go there.  Video2 shows how one MIA family rep is treated, confirming some of the reports in Video1.
1994/07/24 McCain joins with the Democrats to confirm nominee Stephen Breyer to be an Associate Justice on the SCOTUS.  Nine Senators voted Nay...
1995/09/07 McCain/Feingold first start pushing for and submitting bills for Campaign Finance Reform, and although it crashes and burns a number of times, they dogedly keep reintroducing revamped legislation for that purpose Feingold
1997/00/00 McCain leads the opposition to the Coats Amendment, preventing government funded fetal tissue research ( derived from "a legal act" [abortion] )  Amendment defeated!
1999/04/02 McCain advocates sending our ground troops into the Balkins.
1999/08/19 McCain stated, "Certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade,"
2000/00/00 McCain joins Democrat Russ Feingold to introduce Campaign Finance Reform, an effort funded by George Soros  Article
2000/00/00 McCain was the keynote speaker at the ultra-liberal Philadelphia convention sponsored by George Soros while John F. Kerry keynoted at another Soros event on the same day...
2000/11/20 McCain participates in the production of a gun control spot for Oregon's Proposition Five.  (Circa this date, prior to the November election.)  Article
2001/00/00 McCain founded the Reform Institute funded by George Soros' Open Society Institute, Teresa Heinz Kerry's Tides Foundation, several other non-profits.  CapnsQtrs  Malkin WND  Contains information on Juan Hernandez and numerous McCain Campaign staff from 2000, that found potitions at the Reform Institute  Contains information on who funded McCain's efforts on Campaign Finance Reform, Comprehansive Immigration Reform and a number of Global Warming bills listed in this timeline
2001/05/15 McCain introduces the Gun Show Loophole bill S890, with Carper, Lieberman, DeWine, Clinton, and Schumer co/sponsoring. Analysis
2002/03/27 McCain/Feingold Campaign Finance Reform is enacted, becomes law 2003 01 01
2003/03/19 McCain joins Democrats to vote against drilling in ANWR
2003/10/30 McCain joins Lieberman again, this time to introduce the Climate Stewardship Act (Gorebal worming et al) it falls short in the Senate vote on this day  Thomas  Bill S139  LINK
2003/10/30 McCain Lieberman bill is addressed by Kit Bond
2004/03/10 McCain states he would entertain an offer to be John Kerry's Vice-President, but doesn't see a realistic scenario where he would be asked.  Later denies he would leave the Republican party.  YouTube
2004/03/18 McCain Defends John Kerry on Defense matters
2004/03/30 McCain joins Lieberman again, this time to introduce another Climate Warming bill with ten Democrat and ten Repbulican cosigners.
2004/04/02 McCain states, "I believe my party has gone astray, I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy, but I also feel the Republican Party can be brought back to the principles I articulated before."
2006/04/04 McCain offers anybody in the crowd $50 an hour to pick lettuce in Arizona. Shouts of protest rose from the crowd, with some accepting McCain’s job offer. “I’ll take it!” one man shouted. McCain supporting guest worker program
2004/06/04 McCain signs letter with 58 Senators, "We write to urge you (President Bush) to expand the current federal policy concerning embryonic stem cell research."
2004/08/05 McCain announces he deplores the Swift Boat adds against Senator John Kerry, and asks the White House to refute them  LINK2
2005/00/00 McCain resigns from the Reform Institute he founded with George Soros.  His top advisors remain on the Reform Institute payroll, making big dollars.
2005/01/28 McCain declares, "I want us in the ICC (International Criminal Court)", but I would like to see more safeguards first
2005/05/12 McCain joins Ted Kennedy to introduce McCain/Kennedy immigration legislation that would wind up making illegal immigrants citizens
2005/05/24 McCain joins 13 other Republican and Democrat Senators to form the Gang of 14, foolishly opting to preserve an undemocratic Senate rule instead of following the Constitution and historical precedent.  Analysis1  Analysis2  Analysis3
2006/02/20 McCain addresses immigration reform ralley of mixed group including SEIU and ACORN(in support of immigration reform bill) by saying, "What makes America special is what's in this room tonight." additional video
2006/04/28 McCain states, "I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected that has become corrupt."
2006/09/06 McCain joins Dole to write op-ed for the Washington Post, states in part, "We should publicly remind Khartoum that the International Criminal Court has jurisdiction to prosecute war crimes..."
2006/12/01 McCain writes letter to the incoming defense secretary Robert Gates stating Airbus Government subsidy issue "may risk eliminating competition before bids are submitted,..." The Air Force changed the criteria four days later, eliminating subsidy consideration.  As of 2008/03/11, top current advisers to Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign last year lobbied for a European plane maker that beat Boeing to a $35 billion Air Force tanker contract, taking sides in a bidding fight that McCain has tried to referee for more than five years.  Two of the advisers gave up their lobbying work when they joined McCain's campaign. A third, former Texas Rep. Tom Loeffler, lobbied for the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. while serving as McCain's national finance chairman.
2007/02/05 McCain joins Joseph Lieberman to introduce the Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act.  See related energy tax analysis here 2008/01/10
2007/02/17 McCain states he will close Guantanamo Bay terrorist detainment center on his first day in office  Video  (same as date link on the left)
2007/03/22 McCain gets the pledged support of Chuck and Sue Cobb, Jeb Bush's Florida Director of the Free Trade of the Americas Agreement effort
2007/06/00 McCain joins Baldwin, Shays and Meehan to file an amicus brief against the Wisconsin Right to Life organization  brief  The wrong side of a pro-life issue, helping pro-abort Feingold
2007/06/18 McCain's Gitmo problem, close the base, grant some Geneva Convention status reserved for lawful combatants, stop water boarding...
2007/10/25 McCain still wants us to sign the L.O.S.T. treaty in time, but does have concerns over sovereignty issues.
2007/12/17 McCain gets the Boston Globe's endorsement in the Republican Primaries
2008/01/10 McCain Lieberman energy tax is addressed in National Review.  Intoduced here 2007/02/05
2008/01/25 McCain gets the New York Times' endorsement in the Republican Primaries
2008/01/25 McCain and Hillary share a lot of political views says Bill Clinton.  No comment from the McCain camp.  YouTube
2008/02/03 McCain gets the Los Angeles Times' endorsement in the Republican Primaries
2008/03/00 McCain makes his first attempt to tell a state (North Carolina) Republican Party what to do.  The RNC joins him.  (North Caroline tells him to pond sand)
2008/03/24 McCain hires Meg Whiteman to cochair his Presidential campaign.  Whiteman is another wishy washy at best Independent, who has donated to leftist candidates and still doesn't have a clue what side to come down on with regard to illegal immigration.  She is leaning toward running for Governor in California and being courted by it's Republican leadership.  Links to CalCowGirl's comments regarding Whiteman's donations.  Article above.
2008/03/26 McCain speech to the World Affairs Council, Europe may get veto power over some of our foreign policy...
2008/03/26 McCains, John and Cindy telegraph support for the independent state of Kosovo.  Cliff Kincaid at AIM comments...
2008/04/08 McCain casts last Senate vote during his Presidential Campaign.  By the EOBD 06/30/08, he has missed 373 votes or 61.8% of the Senate votes in the 110th Congress.  His has cast one vote since 03/14/08.  It was on April 8th.  LINK
2008/05/09 McCain's interview with O'Reilly... I won't drill in ANWR... it's pretty... I'm an environmentalist.  (note: there's a good chance he may have an environMental disorder)
2008/05/12 McCain Joins the Goreball Worming Cult, sounding more like Al Gore every day...  McCain's Oregon add Video
2008/05/13 McCain takes an Environmental walk, with the leader of the Cascade Land Conservancy... (another series of fruit loop moments)
2008/05/15 McCain states he will appoint Democrats to his administration, during a Republican teleconference and during a Columbus stump speech
2008/05/27 McCain announces support for severe cutbacks on our nuclear weapons, withdrawing battlefield nukes from Europe and giving our nuclear waste to an international body
2008/06/04 McCain states, "I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war in Iraq."
2008/06/14 McCain tells Clinton supporters they should back him because he voted for Ginsberg and Breyer  Said this to Conservatives on 2008/05/07
2008/06/18 McCain joins Barack Obama today in signing on to sponsor Joseph Bidens Global HIV/AIDS bill.  This monstrosity would cost the U.S. in excess of $50 Billion dollars of taxpayer money  S.2731
2008/06/21 McCain and Obama are to address open borders group in Los Angeles on July 18th, 2008, Communists and worst of U.S. Illeagal Alien appologist groups...  It was announced on this date.
2008/06/21 McCain and team realize he has so little credibility on judicial appointments, that they announce he will let Fred Thompson vet his judges.  That's 06/21/08's version of truth...
2008/06/28 McCain declares, "I will make comprehensive immigration reform my “top priority,” during my first 100 days in office.  He assures Latino leaders that they will have an ally in the White House.  As of this date, Conservatives know they won't have one.
2008/07/03 McCain Allies Find Financing Loopholes, Governors' Fund Recruits Big Donors; Bid to Catch Obama  LINK  Another do as I say, not as I do moment.  Well, a long series of moments over time would be more like it.
2008/07/16 McCain and Obama's cosponsored (Joe Biden Originated) Global HIV/AIDS bill passes the Senate in a vote of 80 to 16.  It now has to go back to the House for reconsiliation.  Bush actively lobbied for this $50 billion dollar monstrosity.  S.2731
2008/10/10 McCain states Obama is a decent person and you don't need to be scared of him being president. Video1  Tells folks to be respectful of Obama. He respects Okama and his accomplishments. Video2
2008/11/20 McCain supports Barack Obama's pick of Gov. Janet Napolitano as director of homeland security
2009/07/12 McCain plans to lead an effort to reverse the decision in committee that would add $1.7 billion for 12 additional F-22s next year. 
2009/07/13 McCain, in an unusual alliance with the Obama administration, moved Monday to eliminate $1.75 billion recently inserted into the proposed 2010 defense budget for more (F22) fighter jets from Lockheed Martin.
2009/07/14 McCain backs Obama on F-22 cuts, but advocates vow fight
2009/07/21 McCain gives credit to President Obama for standing firm, on cutting F22 funding
2009/09/24 McCain Palin break on F-22 cuts
2009/10/21 McCain says, “I haven’t looked at him that carefully because I haven’t been around,” regarding Arpaio’s well-publicized exploits in the Phoenix area, when asked what he thought of him. However McCain had known enough about Arpaio around 2004 to back Mesa police Cmdr. Dan Saban over him.
2009/10/25 McCain defends Obama against Cheney's comments on his Afghanistan dithering, calls for unity with president
2009/11/18 McCain defends campaign staff against Palin
2009/12/02 McCain criticizes Obama for proposal to cut Medicare to fund health care, but fourteen months ago... this.
2009/12/06 McCain defends Palin while referring to her as irrelevent, then lauds her work
2010/01/10 McCain Strategist Schmidt trashes Palin, says McCain had planned to name Lieberman as his VP choice in 2008
2010/01/20 McCain coopts Palin for his own purposes.
2010/01/21 McCain and Brown meet, McCain's office... coopting alert
2010/01/21 McCain/Feingold Finance Reform takes big hit from SCOTUS, as Conservatives had first predicted Malkin
2010/01/22 McCain coopts Brown for his own purposes. Conservatives: Beware of McCain Regression Syndrome
2010/01/23 McCain's PAC supports California's former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina for U. S. Senate, likes Jessie Jackson and gender politics.
2010/01/26 McCain, U.S. Supreme Court overturns bulk of McCain/Feingold Act (Part 1) (Part 2) (Part 3)
2010/01/26 McCain, Bayh team up on spending freeze bill to back Obama, and to grant him line item veto.

v 2010/01/26

[SoCalPol]

You conveniently missed some years. 5 1/2 Years.

John S. McCain III, Lieut. Commander, U.S. Navy

John McCain spent 5½ years in captivity as a POW in North Vietnam. Shot down in his Skyhawk dive bomber on Oct. 26, 1967, Navy flier McCain was taken prisoner with fractures in his right leg and both arms. He received minimal care and was kept in wretched conditions

in his own words, based on almost total recall, is Commander McCain’s narrative of 5½ years in the hands of the North Vietnamese.

The date was Oct. 26, 1967. I was on my 23rd mission, flying right over the heart of Hanoi in a dive at about 4,500 feet, when a Russian missile the size of a telephone pole came up—the sky was full of them—and blew the right wing off my Skyhawk dive bomber. It went into an inverted, almost straight-down spin.

I pulled the ejection handle, and was knocked unconscious by the force of the ejection—the air speed was about 500 knots. I didn’t realize it at the moment, but I had broken my right leg around the knee, my right arm in three places, and my left arm. I regained consciousness just before I landed by parachute in a lake right in the corner of Hanoi, one they called the Western Lake. My helmet and my oxygen mask had been blown off.

I hit the water and sank to the bottom. I think the lake is about 15 feet deep, maybe 20. I kicked off the bottom. I took a breath of air and started sinking again. Of course, I was wearing 50 pounds, at least, of equipment and gear.

Some North Vietnamese swam out and pulled me to the side of the lake and immediately started stripping me, which is their standard procedure. Of course, this being in the center of town, a huge crowd of people gathered, and they were all hollering and screaming and cursing and spitting and kicking at me.

When they had most of my clothes off, I felt a twinge in my right knee. I sat up and looked at it, and my right foot was resting next to my left knee, just in a 90-degree position. I said, “My God—my leg!” That seemed to enrage them —I don’t know why.

One of them slammed a rifle butt down on my shoulder, and smashed it pretty badly. Another stuck a bayonet in my foot. The mob was really getting up-tight.

During 5 1/2 years as a POW John McCain was 2 years in
solitary confinement

a program of vigorous torture methods began on McCain, using rope bindings into painful positions and beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery. Teeth and bones were broken again

Various tortures throughout those years along with
left arm was broken again and ribs were cracked.

[jla]

So are we to give McCain a 'Pass Card for Life' because of his military service?
He was a POW, so that allows him to propose any legislation, (even unconstitutional legislation), without critique?