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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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Keeping Track of the House’s Health Care Votes

Confused as to who’s voting how? Current on Sean Hannity

1,221 posted on 03/19/2010 12:27:27 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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Video: Michele Bachmann shares how the IRS will be the “enforcers” of this Health Care Bill

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/id.4791/blog_detail.asp

Video: CNBC’s Cramer: Health Bill Would Boost Tax Rates to 50-60%

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/id.4762/blog_detail.asp

Video: Paul Ryan: This entire process has been a disgrace

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/id.4758/blog_detail.asp


1,222 posted on 03/19/2010 12:31:56 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: presently no screen name

That is VERY cool! Now we need to find someone to make a Paulie BC, calling the WH


1,223 posted on 03/19/2010 12:33:08 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: MestaMachine
Can you make Paulie here a FR BC? I can't do an ani

Paulie the Mascot for the States that say Say "No" To Health Care Reform

1,224 posted on 03/19/2010 12:35:47 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I like Lycos


1,225 posted on 03/19/2010 12:37:10 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Glenn Beck: Would Our Founders Recognize the ‘Slaughter Rule’?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589622,00.html

Mark Levin Readies Lawsuit on Slaughter Rule
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/03/18/mark-levin-readies-lawsuit-on

GOP fights again: Cantor introduces privileged resolution challenging Slaughter Solution; Dems move to table the motion, 232-181 By Michelle Malkin
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/18/gop-fights-again-cantor-introduced-privileged-resolution-challenging-slaughter-solution/

Top Blue Dog: Slaughter solution is ‘poison’
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), who is a “firm no” on the bill itself, said the process Democrats are considering would spell disaster for the climate in Congress.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/87677-top-blue-dog-slaughter-solution-is-poison

Stephen Lynch calls health care vote plan ‘disingenuous’-—Says procedural move would hurt Congress-—
Even one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s floor whips, U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch, says a proposed parliamentary move to pass health-care reform would be “disingenuous” and harm the credibility of Congress.
http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1240545

Lambs to the Slaughter (House Dems defeat GOP attempt to stop Slaughter 222-203)
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/18/the-house-vote-on-barring-the-slaughter-solution-waiting/
The House vote on the Slaughter Solution: Update: Constitution-butchers prevail, 222-203; Roll call vote added; Calling out Dems Altmire, Lynch; Barone’s analysis added By Michelle Malkin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2473988/posts


1,226 posted on 03/19/2010 12:43:13 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: FlashBack

Freakin’ Awesome post link here ok? -g-
Paulie very excited


1,227 posted on 03/19/2010 12:45:13 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: azishot; blackie; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March; GlennBeck08; reasonisfaith; ...

Please tell your Freeper lists, friends, we are keeping up to date & have all links here through this crucial time. Me & Arthur are relentless & will be until this debacle is over.
Please without your posts we can miss things, so please post crucial links here also?


1,228 posted on 03/19/2010 12:53:26 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper

Repost: Cass Sunstein Advocates for Removal of People’s Organs Without Explicit Consent
NetRight Nation ^ | September 4, 2009 | Adam Bitely

Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 3:53:19 PM by combat_boots

Oldie but goodie from 9/4/09

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2474852/posts


1,229 posted on 03/19/2010 12:55:21 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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1,230 posted on 03/19/2010 12:55:29 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper

This graphic is already outdated. These yesses and noes are changing by the minute as new revelations come to the surface. Boccieri has switched from no to yes as of this AM.
Altmire is going to get killed in PA if he votes yes.
Pelosi has shot down the Stupak antiabortion amendement.
This thing won’t be settled until the fat lady sings.


1,231 posted on 03/19/2010 1:03:27 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine
This thing won’t be settled until the fat lady sings.

Something tells me that we the American People are going to be the fat lady.

1,232 posted on 03/19/2010 1:11:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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UPDATE: Democrats challenge authenticity of ‘doc fix’ memo

The BEST place on FB! Shoutout to Paul!!!

WHB LIVE THIS WEEKEND - BEFORE AND AFTER SUNDAY'S EXPECTED VOTE! STAY TUNED FOR DETAILS...

Also HERE

1,233 posted on 03/19/2010 1:11:37 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: MestaMachine

I know, was an hour ago. Did you see the Paulie post to you? How’s the babygirl?!


1,234 posted on 03/19/2010 1:12:39 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper
Thanks...How did I miss THIS thread.

HEADLINES TODAY


“We do not want that policy discussed at this time.”

Democratic memo instructs staffers to mislead voters and media on “doctor fix”; Update: It’s a hoax, say Dems

Update (Ed): When Politico went live with this article, I had confirmed with two people I know on the Hill that they had seen this being passed around. Did it come from Democrats, or from Republicans? I can’t answer that, but I did confirm with two sources that it exists.
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Headline on Drudge

100,000 Calls Per Hour To Congress...
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The Heat is On: Congressman’s Office Says Constituent Calls Are ‘Harassment’
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Obamacare Grants IRS Perilous Power, GOP Says (Nice Breakdown by Newsmax)
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Hidden Deep Within ObamaCare, Racial Preferences
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Violation of Hatch Act?

Crossing a Line in the Health Care Debate? White House Sending HC Propaganda to Federal Employees?

The White House Office of Health Reform Director Nancy-Ann DeParle has been feverishly sending out unsolicited email messages to federal employees in an effort to build support for President Barack Obama’s health reform package over the last several weeks.

DeParle’s unsolicited emails have been regularly coming to some federal employees’ official government email inboxes for weeks without permission or request, causing some federal employees to feel threatened by the overt political language.

The Department of State employees, who receive hundreds of official government emails every day, have complained about the annoying and partisan emails but are nervous to go public for fear of retribution. The emails are addressed to the federal employees by name and use the official .gov address.

The unsolicited emails also request that the federal employees take action in order to ensure that Obama’s health reform package is passed and the federal budget isn’t at risk for bankruptcy. One federal employee was so concerned about DeParle’s language in one email that he questioned whether his department’s budget would be cut or eliminated without passage of Obama’s bill. DeParle uses scare tactics that some assume are meant as threats:

“No ifs, ands or buts about it -- if we do nothing to reform our broken health care system, costs will continue to skyrocket and break the budgets of American families, small businesses and the Federal Government,” read the March 12th email from DeParle.

1,235 posted on 03/19/2010 1:13:50 PM PDT by thouworm
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RUSH
Keep Calling! Don’t Believe the Pre-Game Hype: They Don’t Have the Votes
http://barackhatesthis.com/
http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/
Keep Calling Even If It’s Busy: (877) 762-8762 or (202) 224-3121 or (202) 225-3121

“They do not have the votes. Obama wouldn’t have gone on Fox or to George Mason if he did. He wouldn’t have canceled his trip for Sunday. This is by no means over. Call: 877-762-8762, or SOB-U-SOB. That’s the toll-free number to the Capitol Hill switchboard.” -Rush


1,236 posted on 03/19/2010 1:16:27 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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Transportation to Washington

http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/transportation-to-washington

Health-care Showdown to Start at 1 p.m. Sunday
~Kristinn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2474259/posts

The Fearful Forty; 40 Dems who are persuadable on health care reform you should call NOW
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2474697/posts


1,237 posted on 03/19/2010 1:20:45 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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Judicial Watch Sues HHS to Obtain Documents Related to President Obama’s Secret Healthcare Meetings

Slaughter Rule Unconstitutional

I know many of you are concerned about the corrupt process liberals in Congress have been using to push through the government health care legislation. The latest outrage is the plan by the House Democratic leadership to use the so-called Slaughter Rule to “deem” the Senate health care bill passed without an actual up-or-down vote. Below is a statement that I issued just today for Judicial Watch on the “deem and pass” trick

http://www.judicialwatch.org/


1,238 posted on 03/19/2010 1:24:10 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper; SE Mom
BREAKING! Big Get: Altmire to Vote No

This could be very big. Rep. Jason Altmire (D., Penn.) has done his darndest to position himself as the deciding vote on health-care reform, and I predicted earlier this week that he would end up voting with the majority either way. Congressman Jason Altmire will vote against the latest version of health care reform when the U.S. House of Representatives votes on the bill this weekend.

Altmire confirmed that he has decided to vote no in a telephone conversation with KDKA political editor Jon Delano. The McCandless Democrat is expected to post a statement on his website later today. In...

1,239 posted on 03/19/2010 1:24:14 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: JustPiper; Arthur Wildfire! March

Just for you & Arthur Wildfire, Pipsies, and FR: I’ll try this one more time:


A. If it passes, consider 2010 the year the AH calendar decided to take over. This bill, with health and education ‘care’ thrown in, including its exemption provision for ‘religion’ S 1402 (g [Gregorian]) (1 [first historical year of recognizing the hijri calendar]), is both zakat and a poll tax for non-believers. Get it? Section 1402 (g)(1)

There are references in the Health Care Bill, but, nothing beyond a reference to IRS code, although there is language in the Health Care bill, as there has been for some time:

171
•J. 55–345
1 sion thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and
2 an adherent of established tenets or teachings
3 of such sect or division as described in such sec4
tion.
5 ‘‘(B) EXEMPTION.—An application for the
6 exemption described in subparagraph (A) shall
7 be filed with the Secretary at such time and in
8 such form and manner as the Secretary may
9 prescribe. Any such exemption granted by the
10 Secretary shall be effective for such period as
11 the Secretary determines appropriate.

B. Maybe this is year 2 of the 1. Ask your Congressperson who GETS that religious exemption and under which provisions members of such religions are ‘exempt’.

C. ‘zakat’ and ‘nisab’: (Nisab means the minimum amount fixed by Islamic Shariah for certain kinds of wealth and valuables.) Terms and Conditions: 1- Zakatable assets must be at least equivalent to Nisab. 2- Zakatable assets at least to the limit of nisab must be in the ownership of a person for one lunar year.
Zakatable Assets and its Nisab

1- Gold: The nisab for gold is 3 oz. or 100 g.
2- Silver: The nisab for silver is 21 oz. or 700 g.

http://goicn.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=344

D. And, the bill was posted at 12:44 (8:44 in Mecca): Remember 8:44 am on 9/11?

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=3000#a903
________________________________________
Get it, folks?
3 - 2 - 1 - 8:44
Slaughter Deem, indeed

E. Could the entire Health Care bill simply be ‘cover’ for making certain this is in fact “the largest muslim nation on earth”? Section 1402 (g)(1). 1402 on the Gregorian calendar was the original year of the conversion used for anno hegira, the hijri calendar: year 1. To which religions does the health care exemption of section 1402(g)(1) apply and under what circumstances? Is education included, or is it part of “outreach”? Please refer to my earlier posts, search for yourself, and to the historical origin of the use of the hijra calendar.

From what I have found, there is NO explanation other than the language posted for the application of religious ‘opt out’ or exemption.

The health care bill, with education thrown in, is zakat, and, thus pays alms and homage to the 5 pillars of Islam. After all, ‘courage’ in Arabic is Hamas, and crisis or struggle is ‘jihad’. Obama’s key words are not spoken to American audiences.

F. In re finding Section 1402(g)(1):

“The origins of the hijra calendar are recorded as having begun in AD 1402 on the Gregorian Calendar, so that the equivalent beginning of the hijra year 1 corresponds to 1402 in the Gregorian calendar:

“1402 A.H. began with the Lunation No. 728 in October 1981.
A conversion of Hijra years into the Gregorian calendar may be made using the following relationship:-
Christian Era (A.D.) = 621.54 + (Hijra in years and decimals) X 0.970225 “”

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~makhdoom/calend2.html


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G. Arabic for “courage” “Hamas - Literally, “zeal” or “courage” in Arabic. It is also an acronym that stands for Islamic Resistance Movement, a militant Islamist Palestinian organization that opposes the existence of the state of Israel and favors the creation of an Islamic state in Palestine. Founded in 1987 in Gaza — and briefly encouraged by Israel as a counter to the PLO — it participated actively in the first intifada against Israel’s occupation. It began terrorist attacks on Israel in the late 1980s. Initially it opposed the 1993 Oslo peace agreement between the PLO and Israel, but it cooperated intermittently with the agreement during the 1990s. Since the outbreak of the second intifada in 2000, it has been one of the primary military organizations carrying out attacks on Israeli settlers, soldiers and civilians”

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4510714

H. (1)“Obama calls ‘entrepreneurship summit’ with Muslims”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100305/pl_afp/uspoliticseconomyislam
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(2) “Obama continues reach to Muslims” Published: Sunday, February 14, 2010 “Obama recounted efforts by his administration to foster partnerships with Muslims on education, economic development, global health, and science and technology.”

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/02/14/news/a7-—obama-muslims_139506.txt
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(3) “Obama Signs Executive Order Presidential Determination Allowing Palestinians Loyal to Hamas to Resettle In US” February 7, 2009

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/02/07/obama-signs-executive-order-allowing-palestinians-loyal-to-hamas-to-resettle-in-us.php
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(4) “Hamas means “courage” or “zeal” in Arabic. The PLO and Hamas are both Palestinian, but the resemblance largely ends there. Unlike the PLO, which was always a secular movement with mainly political goals, Hamas is a Sunni Islamic fundamentalist group whose stated purpose is to replace Israel with an Islamic Palestinian state.”

http://www.rotten.com/library/history/terrorist-organizations/hamas/
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(5) “Obama Tells Congress to Have ‘Courage,’ Leans on Kucinich to Vote Yes” 3/15/2010

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/15/obama-tells-congress-to-have-courage-leans-on-kucinich-to-vot/


B. Per Beck yesterday:

1. Roe v Wade, 1973 & Duel v Bolton: The federal government has no business interfering with a woman deciding what to do with her body. Now, with the HC, the government is telling everyone exactly what to do with their bodies.

2. Senate version is the version that has to pass. (from opentalk)...the origins of the bill , also started with a gimmick to get around the rules. It was a tax IRS code bill for first time home owners. from link

. ...Reid HAD to do this. Why? Because all legislation that raises taxes MUST originate in the House of Representatives and H.R. 3590 satisfies that requirement.

I will repeat that, Harry Reid switched the language in H.R. 3590 and replaced it with the Senate’s version of the health care system takeover in order to satisfy the requirement for all legislation raising taxes to originate in the House. The bill summary outlines the evolution of this bill:

OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes.

OFFICIAL TITLE AS AMENDED BY SENATE:
An act entitled The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

3. How do the CBO numbers make any difference really? We’re transitioning....A starter home. To make HC and education a ‘Right.’ This has been the plan from the beginning. Ctr for American Progress, Soros & Podesta-led, have admitted that the rules on reconciliation have admitted the “instructions (that) were given” in the budget. Not negative liberties, but housing, health care, food, education and a job: FDR’s 2nd bill of rights. Pushed through by Elanor Roosevelt, per the UN. Ratified by the UN. Read the Soviet constitution. The US was one of 6 countries not to ratify (at the time).

4. The Soviets knew the fall of the USSR was coming and prepared for it. Belavezha Accords
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belavezha_Accords&qsrc=3044


1,240 posted on 03/19/2010 1:31:59 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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