Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]

Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

[JustPiper]

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC

[nutmeg]

It’s gonna be huge, been posting all night here all the joiners I’m getting via email

Lots of stuff going on in DC this weekend besides our Code Red rally. Cindy Sheehan and the anti-war ANSWER crowd, those despicable Fred Phelps goons are planning some protests, plus La Raza will march on Sunday. It's gonna be "interesting"...

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Paulie it is!!!

FUGITABOUT!!!...;0)

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

FRiend, is there any search engine as good as the way google used to be?

I just tried Bing with “certifigate”. It auto-corrected to “certifiCate”. Nor did I see any advanced options.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I just tried another experiment with Bing [as opposed to google]:

Obama’s birth certificate freerepublic.com browse pings.

Only 10 results. Of that, only 3 were from our forum.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

God bless you, Piper! I’ll be pinging FRiends to four of your posts. FRegards ....

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Perriello opposes Slaughter solution, breaking from his fellow rats. He had voted for healthcare last time but is now strictly uncommitted.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Other than Perriello, who else is on the fence to call?

[Outlaw Woman]

The undead, obamacare is dead, thread.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Undecided
Jason Altmire (Pa.) * (N) Sounding more like a no than he was last week. On March 16, Altmire told Fox Business Network that he has major problem with Democrats’ apparent “deem and pass” strategy, calling it “wrong.”

Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told McClatchy Newspaperrs he is targeting Altmire, who many view as key to passage. Voted no in committee and on floor, but bottom line is his yes vote is gettable

Brian Baird (Wash.) (N) Retiring member who bucked party on Iraq war surge. Another target of Clyburn

Melissa Bean (Ill.) (Y) Conservative Democrat well-positioned for midterm election

Shelley Berkley (Nev.) (Y) Told Politico she does not like the Senate bill

Sanford Bishop Jr. (Ga.) * (Y) Favors Stupak provision

Tim Bishop (N.Y.) (Y) Must-have vote for leadership. Bishop’s office told CNN that the New York lawmaker wants major changes to Senate bill. Voted yes in March 15 Budget Committee markup

Michael Capuano (Y) Wanted to be a senator, but doesn’t trust the Senate. TPM reported that Capuano is leaning no. In an e-mail to supporters, Capuano said he has many problems with Senate measure

Dennis Cardoza (Calif.) * (Y) Secured language for district before last year’s vote

Jim Cooper (Tenn.) * (Y) Has had up-and-down relationship with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)

Jim Costa (Calif.) * (Y) Secured project for his district before November vote

Henry Cuellar (Texas) * (Y) Cuellar backs Stupak language but undecided. Cuellar’s vote has been one of rampant speculation, but the office told The Daily Caller he is undecided. Under pressure from Speaker and the president, Cuellar backed the climate change bill and House healthcare measure last year.

Kathy Dahlkemper (Pa.) * (Y) GOP target. Her yes vote could be key to passage. Strong backer of Stupak language

Brad Ellsworth (Ind.) * (Y) In what could be a bad sign for Democrats, Ellsworth missed the vote on March 18 when Democrats moved to table GOP resolution condemning “deem and pass” strategy. Ten Democrats, many of them no votes on health reform, voted with the GOP on that roll call. Ellsworth made every other vote on March 18. Senate hopeful is big supporter of Stupak language. Told the AP he won’t be swayed by arm-twisting by the president

Bob Etheridge (N.C.) * (Y) Told McClatchy he’s undecided. Said, “When North Carolina families are hurting, doing nothing really isn’t an option for me.” Voted yes in Budget Committee markup on March 15

Bill Foster (Ill.) (Y) GOP target

Marcia Fudge (Ohio) (Y) Fudge is undecided, according to wkyc.com. Obama lobbying for her vote, giving her a ride on Air Force One on March 15

John Hall (N.Y.) (Y) Democratic leaders may lose other Dems from N.Y., but need to keep Hall on board

Debbie Halvorson (Ill.) (Y) Politically vulnerable, but favored to win her reelection race

Paul Kanjorski (Pa.) * (Y) GOP target. Also voted with education reform bill that will move with healthcare reform in reconciliation

Marcy Kaptur (Ohio) * (Y) Voted with leadership first time around, but doesn’t toe the party line. Wants Stupak language but that’s not a deal breaker. Voted yes during Budget Committee markup. Likely to move to lean yes category soon

Mary Jo Kilroy (Ohio) (Y) In toss-up race this November
Ron Kind (Wis.) (Y) Represents competitive district. Voted against bill in committee

Ron Klein (Fla.) (Y) GOP target

Suzanne Kosmas (Fla.) (N) President Obama urges her to vote yes in the Oval Office, according to March 16 AP report

Jerry McNerney (Calif.) (Y) Waiting for final language. There are false reports of him being a firm no

Harry Mitchell (Ariz.) (Y) In bad sign for the Democratic leaders, Mitchell voted with Republicans March 18 on motion to condemn “deem and pass” strategy. GOP target. His spokesperson told The Hill: “The Congressman had some concerns with the Senate bill and will look over reconciliation to see how it impacts the Senate bill.”

Alan Mollohan (W.Va.) * (Y) In November, seat was considered safe. Now, he’s in a tight race

Chris Murphy (Conn.) (Y) GOP target

Scott Murphy (N.Y.) (N) President Obama urges Murphy to vote yes in Oval Office meeting, according to March 16 AP report. Reelection race looks good, for now. Told local media he might vote yes

Richard Neal (Mass.) * (Y) Better vote yes if he wants to take Ways and Means gavel; fan of Stupak language

Glenn Nye (Va.) (N) In toss-up race

Solomon Ortiz (Texas) * (Y) Was a late yes last time around

Bill Owens (N.Y.) (Y) One of first votes in Congress was yes on House health bill; media reports have him as undecided

Tom Perriello (Va.) * (Y) His vote is anyone’s guess. Took a step toward a yes by endorsing Senate abortion language on March 16, but then voted with GOP on condemning the “deem and pass” strategy of Democratic leaders. In toss-up race this fall; Pelosi had long talk with the Virginia Democrat on March 10 on the House floor

Earl Pomeroy (N.D.) * (Y) Voted against bill in committee, and for it on the House floor

Ciro Rodriguez (Texas) * (Y) Considered by Cook Political Report to “likely” retain seat

Bobby Rush (Ill.) (Y) Surprise addition to this list. Said he was undecided on March 18. The Hill reported that Rush engaged in several discussions with leadership lawmakers after announcing his position. Concerned about bill’s impact on hospitals in poor areas. Still, liberal congressman is a likely yes. Rush defeated Barack Obama in 2000 House primary

John Salazar (Colo.) * (Y) GOP target

Loretta Sanchez (Calif.) (Y) Was a late yes in November
Kurt Schrader (Ore.) (Y) Budget Committee member didn’t vote during March 15 markup. In competitive reelection race.
Zack Space (Ohio) * (Y) Voted yes in committee and yes on the floor last year

Adam Smith (Wash.) (Y) Was a late yes in November

John Tanner (Tenn.) * (N) House deputy whip not running for reelection, but he still will need to be convinced to get to yes. Voted no in committee and on floor

Dina Titus (Nev.) (Y) Her office told The Hill the congresswoman is undecided. Voted no in committee and yes on the floor last year

Paul Tonko (N.Y.) (Y) Waiting for Congressional Budget Office numbers

[JustPiper]

Local Congressmen Undecided on Health Care-—Congressmen Jason Altmire, D-PA, and John Boccieri, D-OH

http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/Local-Congressmen-Undecided-on-Health-Care/GBfShvJkG0urrhR8DC2T8g.cspx

UPDATE:

Ohio Democrat Flips to ‘Yes’ on Health Care

Democratic Rep. John Boccieri of Ohio is switching his vote to “yes” on President Obama’s health care overhaul, bringing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi just one vote shy of the 216 needed for passage .

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/19/ohio-democrat-flips-yes-health-care/

[JustPiper]

Democratic Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon switches vote to ‘no’ on health care bill

[JustPiper]

URGENT: Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., says ‘No’ on health care — ‘unless they fix this’ — after John Boccieri, D-Ohio, switches to a ‘Yes,’ leaving House Dems two short of passage, by whip estimates

http://www.foxnews.com/

[JustPiper]

Between Obamacare & Immigration, they are coming fast & furious with all there BS manuevers

[FlashBack]

If VanderPlaatz wins in IA you can add us to the list of
States that will fight this...he just announced it on the radio here!

[JustPiper]

TY Arthur :)

[JustPiper]

Aw Paulie for Ryan not Sopranos lol You funnya

[JustPiper]

holdin my head ~LaRaza

[JustPiper]

Breaking News: Health Care - FRIDAY UPDATE
Friday, March 19, 2010 2:02 PM CST

Mark Levin Interviews Paul Ryan

If you ever wanted to understand the goings-on in Washington on the subject of health care, listen to this extraordinary - and shocking -interview.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1738089&spid=32364

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.5781/pub_detail.asp

[JustPiper]

Have I told you lately I lovely, thank you so much!!!

[JustPiper]

Meant to say I love you & YOU are most lovely, me & Paulie were just so excited on your post