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‘Desperation’ led CIA, Jordan to trust bomber
MSNBC ^ | January 16, 2010 | Peter Finn and Joby Warrick

Posted on 01/16/2010 9:02:14 AM PST by John W

AMMAN, Jordan - He was an ambitious young doctor from a large family who had a foreign wife and two children -- details that officers of Jordan's intelligence service viewed as exploitable vulnerabilities, not biography.

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The Americans took over the management of Balawi from the Jordanians sometime in the second half of 2009, dictating how and when the informant would meet his handlers, according to current and former U.S. intelligence officers. Agency field officers faced unusual pressures from top CIA and administration officials in Washington keyed up by Balawi's promise to deliver al-Qaeda's deputy leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, the current and former officers said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; ciaofficers; fobchapman; gwot; jordan
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Amazing stuff here. Snipped to include the first paragraph that relates to the headline. Its followed by denials, but.....
1 posted on 01/16/2010 9:02:15 AM PST by John W
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No matter how you cut it....He was waved through a couple of checkpoints.

My best guess...One of the CIA agents killed was a mole.

2 posted on 01/16/2010 9:05:04 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Possibly, guess I was thinking the mole could be higher up. Either a mole or a bunch of neophytes pushing for the big PR kill or capture.


3 posted on 01/16/2010 9:09:27 AM PST by John W
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To: Sacajaweau

Bad field craft...driven by a push from the top...it’s becoming a theme...


4 posted on 01/16/2010 9:09:33 AM PST by Crim
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To: John W

Hurt Locker mentality. We gotta take some risks if we are to have a win here. That’s what got them killed. We sure like to agonize over this stuff, again and again. It’s a war. People die.

“Private First Class Eugene B. Sledge of the 1st Marine Division had been fighting in 1945 on the miserable island of Okinawa for six weeks. Continuous rain transformed the terrain into a sea of mud that clutched soldiers’ boots and stalled large vehicles, while Japanese mortar and artillery shells poured down in a violent fury that mangled bodies and twisted weapons.

The island, according to Sledge, was ‘the most ghastly corner of hell I had ever witnessed….Every crater was half full of water, and many of them held a Marine corpse. The bodies lay pathetically just as they had been killed, half submerged in muck and water, rusting weapons still in hand. Swarms of big flies hovered about them.’ Wherever he looked, Sledge saw ‘maggots and decay. Men struggled and fought and bled in an environment so degrading I believed we had been flung into hell’s own cesspool.’”


5 posted on 01/16/2010 9:19:10 AM PST by kinghorse (The trouble with GREENS is they're too Yellow to admit they're RED.)
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To: John W
Must read paragraphs:

The Americans took over the management of Balawi from the Jordanians sometime in the second half of 2009, dictating how and when the informant would meet his handlers, according to current and former U.S. intelligence officers. Agency field officers faced unusual pressures from top CIA and administration officials in Washington keyed up by Balawi's promise to deliver al-Qaeda's deputy leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, the current and former officers said.

But a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on the customary condition of anonymity, rejected assertions that the CIA had abandoned caution. "No one -- not in Washington, not in the field -- let excitement or anticipation run the show," the official said. The GID's approach was more subtle than simple blackmail, the official added. "Persuasion works better than coercion, and that's something the Jordanians understand completely," the official said. "The caricatures of clumsy, heavy-handed approaches just don't fit."

I also must comment on the Jordanian's use of "persuasion" rather than "coercion". As you probably know, Jordan is the home of the world famous "fingernail factory". That name didn't just drop out of the sky.

6 posted on 01/16/2010 9:19:52 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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Well, it doesn’t seem to me that this story changes anything. It was not a mistake to try to turn and use him. It was a mistake to TRUST him.

There are conflicting accounts as to whether he gave the CIA any useful information in order to worm his way into their good graces. This article, too, doesn’t really say. They had some information that they used to take out al Qaeda leaders, but they won’t say whether Balawi provided any of it.

Even if his final loyalties were to the enemy, they might still have gotten useful stuff out of him if they handled him right.

But to let him into a meeting of high-level CIA operatives without searching him? That was a violation of tradecraft on the most elementary level.


7 posted on 01/16/2010 9:21:11 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jhpigott; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; gleeaikin; SunkenCiv; Nachum; SJackson; Moe Tzadik; Yehuda

*ping*


8 posted on 01/16/2010 9:25:11 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: InterceptPoint
He's even saying the CIA abandoned caution because of....oh no....PC....

I'll repeat...IMHO,one of the agents killed was a mole...

9 posted on 01/16/2010 9:30:58 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Agency field officers faced unusual pressures from top CIA and administration officials in Washington keyed up by Balawi's promise to deliver al-Qaeda's deputy leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, the current and former officers said.

So the Obama Administration had a role in the deaths of these CIA agents?
10 posted on 01/16/2010 10:01:44 AM PST by WaterBoard
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To: InterceptPoint
"The Americans took over the management of Balawi from the Jordanians sometime in the second half of 2009, dictating how and when the informant would meet his handlers",

I do not understand why this happened. The Jordanians do not give up assets. They also do not bow to pressure unless it comes from the Kings staff or family. This asset held the key to getting a Jordanian citizen who is running the biggest terrorist outfit in the world. I smell high level Obama staff interference. I would love to go back channel with the Jordian Dairat al Mukhabarat case office on this asset who was forced to give him up to the CIA.

11 posted on 01/16/2010 10:02:46 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: WaterBoard

Sure looks it...


12 posted on 01/16/2010 10:08:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: crosslink
Obama has really distanced himself from this and Hassan...and the panty bomber....Almost like they didn't happen.

He's using Haiti for cover....The guy's a piece of work...

13 posted on 01/16/2010 10:12:08 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
He is a radical in the Frank Church mold. He is doing great damage to our intelligence capability everyday.
14 posted on 01/16/2010 10:39:55 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Cindy; Jet Jaguar

BTTT


15 posted on 01/16/2010 10:57:47 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Sacajaweau

“He was waved through a couple of checkpoints.
My best guess...One of the CIA agents killed was a mole.”

What about the fruit of kaboom bomber being waved through with no passport? Being told he’s a Sudanese refugee with no passport, when intel were supposedly aware of this guy? And it was about vowels in the surname? No way. We’ve known for ages there can be names like president hussein, president hossein, president husseini, president al-husseini, etc.


16 posted on 01/16/2010 1:55:45 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Squantos
"Desperation" is not a professional, doing business type of word. It's a term that the fuzzy, lame-stream media with fuzzy-wuzzy feelings has used to frame this incident, in my opinion.


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17 posted on 01/16/2010 2:49:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Squantos

Thank you for the ping Squantos.


18 posted on 01/16/2010 2:57:32 PM PST by Cindy
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To: crosslink

Ditto.


19 posted on 01/16/2010 2:59:59 PM PST by Cindy
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To: hennie pennie

Thanks hennie pennie.


20 posted on 01/16/2010 9:50:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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