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Top 10 handguns
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 01/12/2010 | Source: MadOgre.com

Posted on 01/12/2010 7:55:17 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: piperpilot
My only complaint is that it comes with a right-handed holster and I shoot left-handed. Oh well.

Check Springfields site. They will give you a left hand model free if you ask.
121 posted on 01/12/2010 9:46:00 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Lurker

Really. Do you know what a sample of one is worth in science?

Virtually nothing. It is great that you have no problems with your XD. Many people owned Yugos and had no problems. I don’t think that means you can argue that the Yugo was as good as a Chevy or a Porsche, although your perception of your Yugo may be that it is.

I don’t mean to insult you, and since you’re obviously an avid shooter you’re probably aware of this, but when most people say they’ve had “thousands” of rounds through their weapon what they really mean is they’ve thought about shooting it thousands of times, but have only put a few boxes through it. Mostly what they’ve done is their idea of “dry fire” at the TV. Killing Indians with John Wayne. Most people are gun owners, not gun shooters. If this doesn’t apply to you, great.

If you’re happy with it, then that is all that matters. I just know that a pistol that is barely 10 years old, has yet to be adopted by any large agency or military, and has a problem with reliability is not number 4...in the World.

The fact is...it is a weapon designed in Croatia...it was originally not much over 200 dollars...and besides the XDM, there were precious few changes from the original design. Except for the price tag. Notice it still says “Made in Croatia” on the side...but it is priced the same as American made or Austrian made weapons. So calling it a “Springfield” XD is really a misnomer, since Springfield just imports it. Its like referring to a MAK-90 as an “Interarms MAK-90,” and believing that who imported it makes it a superior/different weapon...When it’s really a Norinco/Polytech MAK-90 and the name of the importer that is electric penciled on the side makes no difference.


122 posted on 01/12/2010 9:46:41 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: CholeraJoe
"unintended discharges from Glocks"<\ br><\ br> The gun will only fire if you pull the trigger. When do you pull a trigger unintentionally? A Glock will fire every time you pull the trigger, that's my criteria for a good gun.
123 posted on 01/12/2010 9:47:02 AM PST by JoSixChip (Leaning toward Sarah Palin/Allen West 2012)
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To: Niteranger68
I'm partial to Fobus paddle holsters and have one for every handgun I carry.

I think Fobus actually makes the bundled ones for SA.

124 posted on 01/12/2010 9:49:24 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

I asked and they said that they were considering selling them, but in the meantime, I could check some third party sites. So much for that!


125 posted on 01/12/2010 9:49:37 AM PST by piperpilot
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To: Qwackertoo

Bigger purse might work...or a thigh holster and a shorter dress... :)


126 posted on 01/12/2010 9:50:09 AM PST by joe fonebone (A third party does need the majority to control the house...they only need 10%)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This top ten is based on what? Personal preference? Sales? Resale value? Weight? Number of enemies/criminals “retired” by the weapon?


127 posted on 01/12/2010 10:06:33 AM PST by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: CholeraJoe

Since a Glock is neither a single action nor a double action design, but a striker fired pistol, it is patently impossible for a Glock to fall and discharge upon impact.

Now if it falls and you make a grab for it...well then, you shot yourself. Sorry. It wasn’t the pistol’s fault anymore than me cutting myself with a “professionals” knife is the knife’s fault. I should have been aware of the blade and been appropriately cautious.

A Glock is not “cocked and locked” like a 1911 or a BHP. For the firing pin to have enough energy to ignite the primer, it must first be pulled back by the trigger. It is not in a condition to fire until the trigger is pulled.

Do you know why exactly Colt went from series 70 to series 80? Do you know why they, in the early 1980’s, went to great expense and trouble to add to a 70 plus year old, very successful design...the firing pin block?

I’ll tell you why. Because the number one gun on this list...the Colt 1911...would fire from the inertia of the firing pin alone if the impact was sufficient. The number one gun on this list would fire if dropped/impacted hard enough...for 60 years that was a concern. So what was that about Glocks firing when dropped again? Btw, I love both 1911’s and Glocks. I hold few prejudices against (good)weapons.

There is no design flaw. It does exactly what it was designed to do and does it well. It goes bang every time you pull the trigger.

Btw, to the thread in general...I agree with the number 1 pick on the list. Nothing beats a 1911. I just love them. Hell, I’ll kiss one and nuzzle it. Talk sweet to it and tell it how pretty it is.

But is it a Star 1911 or a Wilson Combat? Is it a Llama 1911 or something turned out by Novak? Is it a 15 year old Para-Ordnance or a war vintage Colt? 1911 is a hopelessly vague term. They should have at least said Colt 1911 to narrow it down a little(I know, what series).

And I find it absolutely laughable that a Browning High Power is 10...it should be number 2. How in the hell...HOW THE HELL...is a modified version of a COPY(The CZ75) of the Browning High Power number 2...and the real deal is number 10? That is just plain stupid. The CZ75 has always been known as a good weapon...if you can’t afford better. It is also a blatant copy of the BHP. This list was put together by a CS fanboy. The fact that Glock is just plain missing gives it away. Glock 17 should be top 5, if for no other reason than sheer number of adoptees.


128 posted on 01/12/2010 10:14:26 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Responsibility2nd
H&K USP? Beretta...any model?

Sheesh, they list weapons I wouldn't use if I had an alternative.

129 posted on 01/12/2010 10:22:23 AM PST by Mariner
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To: vox_freedom
Let me get this straight because I don't want to keep laughing uncontrollably. . . .

My personal opinion of the sucktastic trigger that was German engineered into a H&K USP45c I used to own, (too much pretravel, too much overtravel, gritty, long reset, too much DA pull weight, generally poor compared to almost every other DA/SA pistol I have ever fired over the last 30 years), is offset by the "unbiased" fanboi reviews from some random website?

O'tay. What's next, raving H&K testimonials from video gamers?
130 posted on 01/12/2010 10:27:29 AM PST by Goldsborough
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To: VeniVidiVici
Fort Hood shooter weapon of choice.

Just sayin'.

I'd like to have one.

131 posted on 01/12/2010 10:30:06 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: null and void
The Colt 1911 has a flawless pedigree.

It was designed specifically to stop muslims.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

132 posted on 01/12/2010 10:40:41 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: oyez
I have one of the S & W model 10 with the 6 inch barrel.
It is in fine shape, I have found 5 serial numbers that are the same.
Does anybody know how to tell year it was made by the serial number?

On holsters for concealed carry, I have about 10 for 3 handguns.
I use the 5 inch belly wrap that holds 2 handguns and 2
magazines, the cost is about $25 and never use any other.
It will even allow me to carry my 6 inch wheel gun hidden.

133 posted on 01/12/2010 10:44:47 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Goldsborough
I wouldn't equate "video gamers" with LEOs, that I personally know and am friends with, but maybe you do.
If you didn't like those reviews, try these, or bring some others forward:

police link

I respect your personal experiences with the USP45c but my experience with the H&K USP compact 9mm has been different over the past ten+ years. I've fired over 600 rounds though it and for me it has a good feel to it, as well as never a misfire or a jam. I also own a H&K 4 that I got when I was 20, and that is a few years/decades ago.
Personal preferences may differ...

134 posted on 01/12/2010 10:45:15 AM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: TalonDJ
I think Fobus actually makes the bundled ones for SA.

Very well could be, but the bodies of the XD Gear holsters are different than the Fobus, especially the Evolution series. Definitely not the same design.

135 posted on 01/12/2010 10:48:29 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Step 1 - Identify Obama/Dem/RINO supporters. Step 2 - Punish them economically.)
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To: vox_freedom
I respect your personal experiences with the USP45c but my experience with the H&K USP compact 9mm has been different over the past ten+ years. I've fired over 600 rounds though it and for me it has a good feel to it, as well as never a misfire or a jam. I also own a H&K 4 that I got when I was 20, and that is a few years/decades ago. Personal preferences may differ...

So, you've fired an average of 60 rounds a year through your USP? Is it perhaps the case that the trigger has been tiring out your index finger?
136 posted on 01/12/2010 11:04:31 AM PST by Goldsborough
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To: Spike Knotts

Just as a history note: Iver Johnson invented the hammer block(or a similar device)in the 1930s and ran an ad stating, “Hammer the hammer!” it will still not fire. They were the first manufacturers to offer a handgun that would not fire when dropped.


137 posted on 01/12/2010 11:59:01 AM PST by calex59
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To: MileHi
"I don’t know the criteria"

The criteria should have been given at the beginning of the article. I'm not sure any was used. I can not see the logic. It seems the knowledge of handguns of whomever created the list is not that great.

138 posted on 01/12/2010 12:06:14 PM PST by Errant
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To: VRWCmember

Me too.


139 posted on 01/12/2010 12:06:30 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: calex59

Iver Johnson did invent the hammer block / transfer bar, but it was IIRC around the turn of the century.


140 posted on 01/12/2010 12:08:36 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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