Posted on 01/11/2010 12:47:03 PM PST by Red Steel
It is my best guess that Obama’s attorneys figured that once Judge Carter dismissed it was over… far from it! Orly has come back with a strong offense. For sure the Justice Department (Obama, et al) is doing its best to stop Judge Carter from approving the transfer to Judge Lamberth in Washington DC. Orly filed a nice response to their opposition.
Below are some highlighted excerpts from the filing:
Orly has pointed out that Judge Carter promised to hear the case on its merits. The Justice Department defending Obama conned the Judge into dismissing and used the excuse of “jurisdiction” claiming only Quo Warranto can be brought in Washington DC.
Orly said, “fine, let’s move the case.” She is asking Judge Carter to move the case to Judge Lamberth’s court in DC. This would serve to best expedite the case, including discovery.
Orly is making sure that Judge Carter is aware of the fact that the Justice Department and Eric Holder have been stalling for many months now. An original Quo Warranto was filed in Judge Taylor’s Washington DC court (he has since retired.. couldn’t stand the heat in my opinion).. that was back in March, 2009. The Justice Department has done everyting in its power to stall, hide, ignore the case..
Orly is telling the Judge that the longer he waits to allow “we the people” to seek justice in court the more damage that Obama does to our Country. The Justice Department is basically defending a Usuper in office.. the entire system appears to be corrupt.. of course, Eric Holder is simply a puppet for Obama.
We hope and pray that Judge Carter allows this case to be transferred.. Obama will have a much tougher time getting the case dismissed in Washington DC if Carter allows the transfer.. Any kind of ruling against Obama will set a precedent that could literally force the Court into action.
You are most welcome.
How about attorney Hemenway?
Wo0t!
That quote doesn’t come from me. It comes from the MOTION filed by attorney Hemenway. The State of HI’s doc’s words are worthless. She has no authority to declare anyone a NBC.
And yet the State of Hawaii did that very thing...
And the funny thing about it all, is that the very department and the very person who runs the department that has to do with producing a certified copy of the document -- which supposedly many here want to be produced for them -- cannot "officially say" where Obama was born in an official statement (according to some here) -- but that same person and department can certainly "officially print" out a piece of paper for you and others saying where he was born on that piece of paper that they create for you... LOL...
I'm ROTFLMAO... about right now...
Let me excerpt the excerpt for you, Star Traveler:
” ... even though the child was not in fact born in Hawaii but was born outside Hawaii. Thus a Hawaii official might assert that a person had a “birth certificate” that was on file with the state or had been on file with the state but that assertion doesn’t prove that a child was born in Hawaii.”
Leaving aside the birth certificate, and some possible double-speak by Dr. Fukino, she is not authorized to usurp the powers of the Supreme Court of the US to determine who is and who is not a “natural born citizen,” even if born in HI, unless that person’s birth certificate showed that both parents were born in the USA. In the case of Obama, that clearly is not the case. Dr. Fukino clearly overstepped the bounds of her authority in her July 2009 statement.
Never heard of him/her.
That is what a mail order law degree gets ya. There is quite a bit of language in that pleading that highlights her lack of legal abilities and/or knowledge. I actually feel badly for her.
......did you hear that Sarah Palin has gotten a job on Fox News? :-) .....
Patting my own back, I suggested it months ago.
I can only presume Roger Ailes picked it up from my several posts :)
Right, it’s their opinions. However, Hemenway’s opinion is backed up by HI Territorial Law 57 and what it provides for. The Doc from HI gave her opinion that even though Barry was born to a foreign national father, and Barry was born a foreign citizen...he is anyway, a NBC of the U.S. That statement, that someone born with foreign citizenship is in fact an NBC, is backed by no law of this country.
A brick wall with that ailment.
The phrase dictionaries out there may have or in latin...
astrum ambulo = "nonstop gobbledgook" or "running at the mouth".
;-0
You know it would be precedent setting. Since you could care less about the office being usurped, you’ve been trying since the beginning to dissuade people from taking notice and/or work to expose the usurper.
No, I don't and that's why I gave you that comparison to murder and getting away with it and using that as a "precedent" for future murder... the law doesn't work that way.
What would be a precedent -- would be -- if the Supreme Court weighed in on this and said -- "This is perfectly fine and it's legitimate and a candidate can do that!"
Then you would have a precedent and a Supreme Court decision affirming it. Short of that, you've got no precedent. It has to be an affirmative precedent to change the way the law treats it now.
The only thing (here in this issue) that is of concern about being a "precedent" -- is just one thing (that I can see, anyway). It's not about being born in Hawaii, because since the State of Hawaii says that he was born there, then it's not setting a precedent that someone can be born in another country and yet still be President here. The State of Hawaii has already said that Obama was born in Hawaii. No precedent is set for someone being born in another country from their official statement.
BUT, a precedent can be set on the other issue having to do with parents having different citizenship -- if -- the Supreme Court weighs in on the issue and issue their decision saying that it only matters that the candidate was born on U.S. soil and meets the other qualifications of the Constitution.
In other words, for a precedent to be set, it's going to take the Supreme Court making an affirmative declaration to that effect.
That one’s good, too! I’ll look it up and add to my collection.
Well, when you can’t make a case for what you’re saying, then it’s always more fun to throw spitballs... LOL...
good going... :-)
But you and I and most posters here know exactly their true motives!!
Their marching orders is from their talking points, Cloward-Piven and Alinsky, very simple!!!
Just wait and see how long it takes before the lemmings get out of the rat-holes???
This is the issue that I’ve been saying you’re never going to get resolved or settled until the Supreme Court decides on it. And there’s a high chance that the Supreme Court will never hear such a case or even render a decision, if they do hear such a case.
I’m afraid you’re going to be in this position for a long time...
. . . . Orly Ping.
The thread has been taken over by Site Pests sharks in a feeding frenzy.
For starters, look here:
Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate.
Until that motion was filed, the existence of such a law was only assumed. Now, attorney Hemenway has found the proof and made it a part of the court record in the HOLLISTER v SOETORO case.
From Family Security Matters web site:
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3538/pub_detail.asp
"Contributor John D. Hemenway, Esq. is a World War II veteran, Naval Academy graduate and a Rhodes scholar."
You will never get an honest answer to that last question, none of them will answer that!
I don't know who "none of them" is, but since I think Orly Taitz is nutty enough to be working for Obama, then perhaps you were thinking of me.
However, I "go off the track" for what you're saying since I've been a big supporter of Sarah Palin from the beginning. It was real fortunate for McCain that he picked Palin, since that's why I voted for the GOP ticket... :-)
And I'm sure glad that Sarah Palin is doing so well these days and I'm happy for her, her family and for conservatives that she's gotten a job with Fox News now (as of today...)...
Then you continue to not care about the office being usurped. Others will continue the fight.
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