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The Barack Obama Nationality Question Heats Up
Big News ^ | January 9, 2010

Posted on 01/09/2010 9:32:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Barack Obama's nationality scandal is gathering speed and refusing to go away now that Congress has got involved.

There have been rumbles of unrest around the world regarding Obama's nationality since the day he stated he would run for the presidency. Now, after more than a year as president of the USA, the rumbles have turned into a full on eruption.

The Barack Obama nationality scandal is refusing to burn itself out and seems to be gathering even more speed with Congressman Nathan Deal questioning the eligibility of Obama to hold the presidency. This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.

Over the last week the internet has been reporting this story with the blogosphere almost going into meltdown over the latest developments yet no mainstream media seem interested in the story that just won't go away for Obama.

Congressman Deal asked the president to prove that he is legally entitled to hold the presidency electronically on December 1st 2009. This communication was confirmed received by Obama's staff but has yet to be responded to.

Even though the president has already produced his short-form birth certificate in order to stop these questions, he has spent a large amount of taxpayers money (estimated to be more than two million dollars) ensuring that the long-form certificate is kept from the public - an action that has raised more than a few eyebrows along the way.

Throughout the campaign trail and longer, Obama made promises of the most transparent administration than any other so why the need to hide a simple birth certificate? Many claim that the whole situation is a complete waste of time and distracting but supporters of the question refuse to stop asking more and more questions.

It seems that the original question seems to have caused a stir not just in America but worldwide with thousands of people doing independent research in an attempt to get the facts out. The problem with independent research is that it is hard to verify where the alleged facts came from and when they are traced back it's not unusual to find that it stemmed from opinion.

With several birth certificates doing the rounds, many proven as hoaxes, the 'official' birth certificate in the Obama nationality scandal seems to prove that the president was in fact a British Subject at birth. On the website dedicated to protecting Obama from smears, Fight The Smears, there is an electronic copy of the birth certificate showing that Obama was born a British Subject. This in itself has been the cause for much speculation on how, why and when nationality was transferred.

Obama's nationality scandal doesn't seem to be going anywhere at the moment and even the Secret Service seem to be taking an interest in anyone questioning Obama's nationality with visits being made for security reasons. Reported last week at Mother Jones, more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the Secret Service and being left feeling very intimidated.

No matter what side of the fence you sit on this scandal seems set to stay around for a long time to come.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: antisemetichuffpo; antisemitism; ariannahuffington; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; congress; eligibility; enemycombatant; huffington; huffingtonpost; huffpo; huffpost; huffwatch; kenyabelieveit; kenyanvillageidiot; muslimterrorist; nathandeal; neinkook; neinkooks; neintroll; neintrolls; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obviouslykenyanfraud; potusfraud; totus
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To: ArmyTeach

So you are a birther!


81 posted on 01/10/2010 5:57:38 AM PST by robroy12 (robroy12)
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To: smoothsailing

I have a hunch that if all of Obama’s records EXCEPT his birth certificate were made public, we could discredit him without it.


82 posted on 01/10/2010 6:08:46 AM PST by Phantom4
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To: smoothsailing

I have a hunch that if all of Obama’s records EXCEPT his birth certificate were made public, we could discredit him without it.


83 posted on 01/10/2010 6:08:48 AM PST by Phantom4
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To: supremedoctrine

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See Bob Owens’ piece on Pajamas Media (a trustworthy source) titled “Did Barack Obama register for Selective Service”. It pretty much confirms he did according to an Selective Service official in Hawaii, and provides lots of background information about the very specific changes registration has gone through in the 60s and 70s.
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Trustworthy?!?!?!!! What a joke, LOL! Even a cursory examination of Bob Owens’ article reveals it to be composed of one false statement after another. See for yourself by asking a few questions and looking for the anwswers:

Why does Owens cite Daniel Amon, Project Manager, Art-Z Graphics as a “trustworthy” spokesman for the U.S. Selective Service System spokesman?

Is Daniel Amon, Project Manager, Art-Z Graphics a trustworthy source when the Selective Service insignia in the documents contain the same words, “Ducky” and “Adobe”, embedded in them like thevarious images of the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) so frequently analyzed as digital forgeries?

A Selective Service System (SSS) 2004 annual report discloses Daniel Amon as the Art-Z Graphics Project Manager for the contract, so why is a person with a contractor’s access to SSS records and the expertise to use graphics design tools such as Adobe Photoshop to be trustworthy enough to never be a person of interest or suspected of forging the SSS records and/or COLB documents?

When President Clinton’s former press secretary is caught redhanded stealing official U.S. Government documents from the National Archives and Records Service (NARA); a contractor is caught accessing and/or altering the passport files of Obama, Clinton, and McCain before receiving an appointment in the Obama Administration; then why is a contractor for the Selective Service System so immune from suspicion they become a credible and trustworthy source for denying what hypothetically could be their own forgeries?

How is it possible for the Selective Service form to bear a USPO (U.S. Post Office) round postmark, when the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) in September 1980 used no such postal stamps which were discontinued around 1971?

Why do Amon and Owens claim Barack Hussein Obama registered for the draft on 4 September 1980 , when his legal name was still Barry Soetoro until after his mother’s divorce months later in 6 November 1980?

Why do Amon and Owens claim Barack Hussein Obama registered for the draft on 4 September 1980 when the other Selective Service documents signed by Barack Hussein Obama as Obama give a 29 July 1980 date?

Why are there two dates for Obama’s draft registration, 29/30 July 1980 signed as Obama and 4 September 1980, when there should only be one registration between 29 July 1980 and 2 August 1980?

Why did an Obama supporter complain on Obama’s webstire on 3 July 1980 that there was no record of a draft registration at the Selective Service System, but Amon at Art-Z supplied a printed report on 9 September 2008 claiming such a registration?

Why is the draft registration on a form which did not exist in 1980 with an OMB number which did not exist in 1980?

How did Barack Hussein Obama register for the draft in Hawaii on 9 September 1980, when he was already attending school at Occidental College, Pasadena, California while registered as Barry Soetoro, adopted stepson of Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia?

How is Owen trustworthy in his statement saying no one else had bothered to lookup Obama’s draft registration, when Obama’s own website illustrates there was no such registration available on 3 July 2008, until Amon at Art-Z Graphics produces an alleged draft registraton on 9 September 2008 containing the digital artifacts “Ducky” and “Adobe” in the SSS insignia?

Just how many false statements, outright lies, and impossible claims does it take before you can conclude Bob Owens article is not a trustworthy source?


84 posted on 01/10/2010 6:18:02 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: HerrBlucher; ArmyTeach

Mein Herren; does that means that every time we ask that the Constitution’s rules must be followed, we are “BIRTHERS”???


85 posted on 01/10/2010 6:27:08 AM PST by danamco
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To: TigersEye
Years and years of dumbing down by publik skools and the MSM.
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Marxism is our nation's most serious and urgent threat. Schools are the Marxists’ most power weapon.

Conservatives fail to realize **both** points, and the stupidly think government K-12 schools can be reformed.

86 posted on 01/10/2010 6:37:48 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: bitt

“The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents,
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So?...Why don’t they follow up on this? When are they going to let this story out of the bag?


87 posted on 01/10/2010 6:40:02 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: bitt
Today, after an extensive eight month investigation, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are breaking their silence and revealing explosive information about a widespread cover-up that began at the earliest stages of the Obama presidential campaign. The cover-up traces back to some of the most powerful and influential people in the U.S. and continues today”
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Today? ....Do you have link?

88 posted on 01/10/2010 6:41:27 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime
I googled the phrase of the NE intelle and Canada etc ...

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=oday%2C+after+an+extensive+eight+month+investigation%2C+the+Northeast+Intelligence+Network&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=e8d6ef47431c6a4a

and the story dates are from Aug 2009

89 posted on 01/10/2010 7:00:30 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: TigersEye

I’d like to see just one of his girlfriends from college come forward and tell something about him. I personally do not believe he had a girlfriend and his interest was men.

Also, what’s the true story about his wife and insurance fraud which led to her resigning her law license.


90 posted on 01/10/2010 7:06:19 AM PST by Paratrooper
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To: 353FMG
If I was a Democrat I would be trying to push him out the door. He has helped the Republicans and hurt the Democrats.
Everyday we have another gift from the liar.
91 posted on 01/10/2010 7:13:32 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: wintertime

I pu the link in #38: dated: Tuesday, August 4, 2009

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

Canada Free Press & Northeast Intelligence Network Exclusive
Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November
By Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod

Tuesday, August 4, 2009

Do you remember Watergate? Thirty-five years ago this Sunday, U.S. President Richard M. Nixon submitted his letter of resignation for his role in the scandal. There was the crime – the break-in, and then there was the cover-up by the Nixon administration. There were threats, media manipulation and disinformation. It was the cover-up more than the crime itself in the aftermath of the Watergate break-in that led to the downfall of the Nixon administration. It was a politically critical time for our country, but we survived because of the strength of the U.S. constitution.

Now, we potentially face a new constitutional crisis stemming from the refusal of Barack Hussein Obama to produce a one-page document that would confirm his eligibility to hold the highest office in the land. Eligibility to hold office is not a “fringe” matter, but a core constitutional issue that lies at the very heart of a growing controversy.
Although we do not have the birth certificate or proof of ineligibility, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press have documentation of a cover-up relating to the issue of Obama’s eligibility to hold office. The proof we possess not only exposes a well orchestrated cover-up, but also provides critical insight into why the topic of Obama’s eligibility has failed to gain traction in the corporate media.

The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse - should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November.
After receiving and authenticating the document, US based veteran private investigator Douglas J. Hagmann opened a full scale investigation into the media blackout, with specific emphasis on tracing the blackout origins to those issuing them. This investigation was conducted in conjunction with Judi McLeod, founding editor of Canada Free Press and Brian Thompson, CFP Information Technology chief following a meeting near Toronto, Ontario last December. At that meeting, it was decided to keep the existence of the document secret until additional evidence could be obtained.
Today, after an extensive eight month investigation, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are breaking their silence and revealing explosive information about a widespread cover-up that began at the earliest stages of the Obama presidential campaign. The cover-up traces back to some of the most powerful and influential people in the U.S. and continues today.

Summary of the Evidence

As noted above, we are in possession of a written account by a well known national talk show host who details how he was prohibited to discuss the controversy of Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility as president of the United States. This signed document cites exact dates and times when he was forbidden to discuss any aspect of the birth certificate controversy, and includes direct references to the individuals responsible for such prohibitions. Further, his statement identifies the individuals who originated the orders and their positions, and confirms that failure to adhere to the order would likely end his career in that industry. He also confirms that other, less specific but more menacing threats were implied during conversations with those making the subject off limits.

Although we possess the original document containing the name and contact information of the talk show host, we have decided not to publish his name or network affiliation at this time. Based on the correspondence from this individual and respecting the nature of the threats to him personally and professionally, it is our decision to allow him to enjoy anonymity until such time as he decides to reveal the facts himself at a time of his choosing.
From multiple interviews conducted within the last eight months, we have obtained information from other sources, independent of the above, who have also been instructed to avoid any discussion of the birth certificate issue at all costs, to wit:
The account of an administrative assistant employed in New York City by a cable network news station who provided significant, detailed information of a 2008 meeting between the top network executive and four-(4) well-known news anchors. This source confirmed that she drafted the memo to the various hosts to notify them of the date, time and location of this high-level meeting at the request of the network’s top executive.
Present at this meeting, she verified that the network official issued “warnings” to the personalities “to avoid any on-air discussion of the birth place, eligibility, and news accounts of litigation compelling [Barack Hussein] Obama to produce a legitimate copy of his birth certificate.” She stated that the network executive had her arrange the conference immediately following a meeting “between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.”
The statement of a corporate secretary for a major news network confirming the existence of a one-page inter-office memo, bearing the markings “confidential” and “not for dissemination,” addressed and distributed to news anchors and on-air talent” that specifically instructed the recipients to avoid any discussion pertaining to the Obama birth certificate controversy. The memo was written and distributed in October 2008, and specifically instructed on-air talent to “advise guests, as necessary, to refrain from citing any news story, legal proceedings, Internet ‘blogs’ or other sources that pertain to the ongoing eligibility controversy of future President Barack Obama.”
As outlined above, our Investigation has uncovered both direct and indirect evidence of threats being made against some of the nation’s top radio and television personalities, which would explain some giving this topic mere lip service. As one source interviewed during the course of this investigation stated, “I’ve got a career and family to think about.”
Although no one should be surprised over the manipulation of the news, the nature of this manipulation, and the extent of the threats against journalists, should shock even the most well grounded.
Any reasonable person must question the motivation of the media moguls. The individuals who have – and continue to threaten talk show hosts, news anchors, and others are the top people. We are not talking about mid or upper level management – this is from the very top in all cases. If there is nothing to the birth certificate issue and the question of eligibility, why the secrecy?


92 posted on 01/10/2010 7:29:02 AM PST by bitt (You canÂ’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: ArmyTeach; 2ndDivisionVet

But there is nothing Wrong with being what the Communists have labeled a “BIRTHER!” All Birthers(mosst anyway) are just asking a very simple question: “Please show Us your Legitimate Birth Certificate since You have tried to fraudulently show Us a worthless Hawaiian Certificate that any Non-Citizen can obtain for free!”
“Show Us the document that certifies You, Barack Hussein Obama ware born in a specific Hawaiian Hospital at a specific time and date and certified by the delivering Doctor! That is only Fair to ask for! Every President, up until OBOZO, has provided that as a requirement by the Constitution to hold the Office of President! We do know that OBOZO has stated many times he does NOT HONOR many sections of Our American Constitution! That is why Our Founding Fathers made Natural-Born Citizenship a requirement for that Postion only in the Constitution, so that the President would havve NO LOYALTY except to his/her native born Country.. Its that Simple! The Democrats knew OBOZO didn’t satisfy that requirement, that why Pelosi signed a second Certification sent to the States by the Party as Certification that deleted the originally include phrase “In accordance with the Constitution!”
The Democrats knowingly conspired to defraud Our American Constitution it certainly appears!! The $10.50 Birth Certificate will do much to clarify this Horrid Question.

Even Glenn Beck might wake up and finally understand the importance of this most important requirement of Our Constitution and quit making fun of Us, but rather demand the Freaking Birth cERTIFICATE! McCAIN had to produce his for the Demorats in the Senate and he was a War Hero and POW for Seven Years!! And Lurch Kerry led the charge on that Embarressing Scene!Lurch, who was Hanoi’s War Hero attacking his fellow “friend” and Senator!!

My apologies, but this is Obscene that We are attacked for asking for the most basic of documents from a Person who is clearly demonstrating a clear Disrespect for AMERICA and he is suppose to be the President.....:-(


93 posted on 01/10/2010 7:32:56 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: bitt

I read this article when it was first published in August.

I find it irritating that they have not acted on the information. What are they waiting for ( rhetorical question)?


94 posted on 01/10/2010 7:37:19 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime

I personally think that Glen Beck is birther. However, he is under a strict contract like the rest of the folks at FOX not to discuss this. I like what he does, and I hope that others will follow his example to tear apart corrupt politicians piece by piece.


95 posted on 01/10/2010 7:48:35 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: danamco

Only if those rules relate to natural born citizenship. I didn’t say there was anything wrong with being a birther, I am one too since I also want bambi to show his long form bc.


96 posted on 01/10/2010 7:56:18 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: supremedoctrine
See Bob Owens’ piece on Pajamas Media (a trustworthy source) titled “Did Barack Obama register for Selective Service”. It pretty much confirms he did according to an Selective Service official in Hawaii, and provides lots of background information about the very specific changes registration has gone through in the 60s and 70s.

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I'm no handwriting expert, but the "Obama" signature on the selective service form I see on the internet looks nothing like the "Obama" signature we see on documents today.

97 posted on 01/10/2010 8:08:31 AM PST by john mirse
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To: wintertime

Here’s a GREAT story that also goes to your question, about why the lamestream media doesn’t act in our best interests!

Saint Elizabeth and the Ego Monster (John Edwards cover-up)

http://nymag.com/news/politics/63045/


98 posted on 01/10/2010 8:16:06 AM PST by bitt (You canÂ’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: TigersEye

You’ve come up with a good list with two exceptions:

1) Reason why Michelle Obama resigned from the Illinois bar after only about four (4) years of practice and all relevant documents.

2) Reason why Barack Obama resigned from the Illinois bar and all relevant documents.


99 posted on 01/10/2010 8:56:29 AM PST by libstripper
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To: WhiskeyX; freedumb2003; smoothsailing; kinsman redeemer

You know a helluva lot more about this particular corner of the Obama eligibility issue than I did-—thanks , now I know some more......(I never said anything or anyone, by the way, was a trustworthy source EXCEPT pajamasmedia, which even if they let this “Bob Owens” character slip through, it still is, in my view.)
I took on face value that Daniel Amon was some kind of official with Selective Service, which is funny considering
that I am as much of a “Birther” as any other Birther on this site. I know the overall situation as well as anyone regarding the COLB, the legal manouevering to squelch the investigations , etc. as well as anyone, I just had NO knowledge of this Selective Service issue. It’s just one of a thousand pieces of a paper trail that should be there,but that ISN’T. Bear in mind, too , that there’s a degree of skepticism about the whole Birther project that’s coming from people who loathe Obama, but who caution against putting too much faith in the “magic bullet” that proving Obama’s illegitimacy would put in our holsters. In the course of this, they’re sometimes misunderstood as pooh-poohing the whole idea of his illegitimacy.
And whoever among you called me “an Obama supporter”, all I can do it laugh. Look up hundreds of my replies , which number in the thousands, since even before the Messiah was
“elected”, and continue calling me an Obama supporter.


100 posted on 01/10/2010 8:59:51 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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