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Per FNC -Norad launched 2 fighter jets- Tyndall AFB, unruly passenger Muhammad Abu Tahir (#145)

Posted on 01/08/2010 1:25:46 PM PST by STARWISE

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To: stephenjohnbanker

And getting worse. This is just the beginning of hell.


201 posted on 01/09/2010 1:02:59 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Sloshed(double intendre)


202 posted on 01/09/2010 1:29:15 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: death2tyrants

Hey! You’re just a simple caveman.

What do you know?


203 posted on 01/09/2010 1:32:55 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: maggief

Here it is: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2424768/posts?page=1

Pray for Our Troops


204 posted on 01/09/2010 1:53:06 PM PST by bray (What ya in for Son? No Health Insurance. Me too.)
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To: Mr. Wright

Judging by the recent ‘incidents’ the policy hasn’t changed yet either.


205 posted on 01/09/2010 2:09:30 PM PST by onyx
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To: hoe_cake

About five minutes if he needed to.

I’m a survivor of the Cuban Crisis; Tyndall never had so many planes on the tarmac.


206 posted on 01/09/2010 2:15:35 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

My Sister was a secretary at Hurlburt during the Summers at the time of the Cuban Bay of Pigs mission. There were Cubans everywhere. Also B-26 attack bombers with 8 machine guns in the nose.

Back then it was called “Field Nine” and was just one of Eglin’s auxilliary fields.

I remember she came home one day with a Cuban boy. They were going on a date. My Mother wouldn’t let her go out with him. Funny in a way as he was just as White as we were and looked almost just like Desi Arnaz.


207 posted on 01/09/2010 2:23:01 PM PST by yarddog
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To: KTM rider

So instead of profiling Arabs , the contingency plan is to shoot down a commercial passenger plane and kill about 300 innocents

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It’s my own speculation .. I just have the sense
they’ve upped the level of their reactions to
this increase in flight ‘disruptions,’ which is
partially boosted by the piece from the pilot below.

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Once airborne there are limited options. Talking to the flight attendants and moving seats is basically all you can do.

A divert takes time and would be a major emergency.

***On the flight I diverted for security issues we had an F-16 on our tail, ready to shoot us down if we didn’t immediately land.

If an actual attack occurs, then all bets are off. Take Action! DO NOT wait for crewmember instruction! This is a life or death situation. The terrorists will be hoping for the element of surprise.

You will probably die anyways if the terrorists are successful so you might as well die giving them a fight. If it is a hijacking, block the aisles and do not let them get to the cockpit.

For a bombing, jump on the passenger and separate him from the ignition source. For a suspicious package, box, etc. there is a place on the plane to move it to, but do not move it until necessary and with guidance from the crew.

The airlines are doing their best just to stay in business with the recession, bad weather, tough competition, and low fares. The employees are very frustrated with pay cuts, long hours, full planes, grumpy customers and poor morale. The commercial aviation system wasn’t designed to fight terrorists.

And don’t necessarily blame the TSA and law enforcement agencies. They have some really hard working personnel trying to protect us.

It is the policies implemented by people working in the U.S. government that is the problem, and amazing enough, it is the federal government that is required by law to defend us by the U.S. constitution.

So what do they do? President Obama decides to take legal action against CIA employees for using special interrogation techniques to obtain information from terrorists to keep us safe.

It was an obvious emotional, liberal, political decision. This will only make it much more difficult for the intelligence agencies to do their jobs and recruit/retain top talent, as well as lowering morale.

Another government employee, the DHS Secretary herself, said after the 12/25 attempted bombing, “the system worked” when it was obvious to the world that it did not. The news media gave President Bush an amazing amount of grief for not connecting the dots with 9/11.

Regarding the underwear bomber on Flight 253; his father warned the government, was on a watch list, paid cash for his ticket, no passport, no luggage. A third grader could have connected these dots.

The Republicans had to undo the laws and policies enacted by the Clinton Administration that impeded communication between intelligence and law enforcement agencies while President Bush implemented new ones to protect us after September 11. Now Democrats are acting like it is September 10 again.

Government by definition is a bureaucratic monopoly. It is managed by politicians and career bureaucrats. Slow, inefficient, unaccountable. Lots of finger pointing, blame games, commissions, hearings, conferences, meetings, and reports, but do you know anybody that got fired after 9/11, Fort Hood, or any other government blunder?

Deja vous with this security lapse? It feels like we are on a team that wants to lose. And I don’t like being on a team that likes losing and neither does millions of people across the United States.

Unfortunately, until the Obama administration, Congress, and our government officials get serious with national security and the war on terrorism, then what we will lose is more of our freedoms and the lives of more American citizens.

~~

Randy Plante is a former Air Force Captain and F-111 pilot. He flew a C-130 with the Air National Guard and served two tours in the Bosnian War. Currently Mr. Plante is a Captain with 19 years at a major airline.

http://www.rockiesghostriders.com/2010/01/how-to-recognize-and-fight-a-terrorist-on-a-plane-by-randy-plante/

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SO, ironically, as the weak appeaser pretender’s
policies have put us at exponentially more risk,
he’ll flex his muscles to show the world he’s not
weak but decisive, if there’s any chance at all of
a catastrophic airline bombing that could kill
thousands on the ground too, and completely
decimate his image. He’s all about control.

All I know is I’d give anything to have the grownups
back in the WH.

http://tinyurl.com/yc6acgd

This world class narcissistic marxist inspires NO trust and makes me extremely disturbed and nervous about what will happen next.

Keep praying for our precious America.


208 posted on 01/09/2010 4:05:31 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Kakaze

How do all those cellphone things work? You know the ones bought en masse? No chargers needed?


209 posted on 01/09/2010 4:10:17 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH
How do all those cellphone things work? You know the ones bought en masse? No chargers needed?

If I understand this correctly, they have been using ieds' in Iraq, detonated by cell phone.

I have no reason to doubt that a coordinated attack could then be achieved by a mass text / email from one person, sort of like a ping list here.

The head guy pushes send and Ka Bam in multiple locations.

I'm sure some of the vets and those smarter than I can elaborate more on this, in fact I hope they do.

210 posted on 01/09/2010 4:25:24 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: JerkyTreat

The 144th FW flies CAP for most of California out of Fresno. When taxiing out from FAT, there’s usually several, highly visible 16s which appear to be ready to launch. They look to be carrying Sidewinders and Slammers, plus external fuel stores. I’d imagine there a few hundred 20 mm rounds along for the ride, too.


211 posted on 01/09/2010 4:50:18 PM PST by stboz
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To: bray
Good thing we let that terrorist lawyer up!

Sure is, Bray/s Where's the Super Bowl this year?

212 posted on 01/09/2010 5:40:46 PM PST by CDB
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To: RWGinger
"...before we decide it wasn’t terror related."

The underpants gnome was "just lighting fireworks". Don't forget that.

213 posted on 01/09/2010 5:55:59 PM PST by Moose Burger
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To: hennie pennie

Thanks for the pings.


214 posted on 01/09/2010 5:57:21 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: Moe Tzadik; appalachian_dweller
Sorry that the post I pinged you to got pulled, but we can't post from that website, it was the first article identifying Muhammed Abu Tahir --- what a surprise, hey?

Frankly, though, there are lots of freepers who are getting very suspicious about all the activity on passenger airliners, and many serious wonder if its a decoy or distraction from some other, very covert terrorist cell activity, that perhpas something massive is in the pipeline.

TIME will tell, but meantime, LOL, something 'feels' all awry.

215 posted on 01/09/2010 6:03:25 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

hp,

Something is indeed up; the tactics have changed...this one is different in a way I haven’t yet identified.

The government is all over the board saying everything from “it’s nothing” to launching fighters again.

The freepers you reference are correct and some of them knew something was about to break just before 12/25. I had predicted the period just before, missing the event by 60 hours.

I expect an imminent Muslim event. It could be anything from FARS’ allusions to the first CONUS Mumbai to something with our Navy in the Strait of Hormuz to another commercial airliner disaster.

The period 1/16-1/19 is ominous from this chair.


216 posted on 01/09/2010 6:33:28 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: STARWISE

Trial balloon....get drunk, lock yourself in the bathroom to see what the reaction/response is??????


217 posted on 01/10/2010 12:02:19 AM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: STARWISE

Likely a trial balloon by CAIR or other terrorist sponsor group. Can’t we all just drive our Priuses and have “Coexist” bumper stickers on our cars?


218 posted on 01/10/2010 5:58:09 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: STARWISE

excellent ! thank you I am glad to see i am not the only one thinking this


219 posted on 01/10/2010 9:04:36 PM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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