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Comment: Ibrahim Shkupolli, the killer form Kosovo, was left in the cold
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6972749.ece ^

Posted on 01/01/2010 1:51:41 AM PST by kronos77

The New Year's Eve massacre in Finland was described by police as a case of domestic violence, a bloody crime of passion.

And so it was:a middle-aged man rebuffed by his ex-girlfriend broke a restraining order, killed her, then shot four of her colleagues at a supermarket before, it seems, taking his own life.

But behind the horrific crime of an apparently deranged individual there was the deep-rooted problem of social exclusion. The clue is in the name of the suspected gunman: Ibrahim Shkupolli.

Finnish sources say he was a Pristina-born Kosovo Albanian, one of the many who have settled in Finland. And therein lies a story. Related Links Finland gunman found dead after killing five

The Finnish Government was quick to recognise Kosovo as an independent state and has been more ready to shelter Kosovo Albanians than many other states in Europe. Ordinary Finns are less enthusiastic about inviting in people who are largely perceived as economic refugees and the popular prejudice is that these foreigners lead a shadow existence.

One of the first, less charitable, responses to today's killings was to lament a human tragedy but to point out that this time at least it was not a Finn who had pulled the trigger.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: albania; finland; kosovo; serbia; shkupolli

1 posted on 01/01/2010 1:51:43 AM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/01/2010 1:52:20 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

social exclusion?

Now everyone who can’t get a date has an excuse?


3 posted on 01/01/2010 1:54:21 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: GeronL

There was/is no excuse.

He was a cold-blooded killer.
Now he’s dead.

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4 posted on 01/01/2010 2:01:47 AM PST by Cindy
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To: kronos77
Elephant in the room, anyone?

Now Finland has to use a similar creativity in dealing with immigrants and refugees: a significant number are suffering from untreated mental problems.

And what might be the nature of that "untreated" mental problem?

Life is quiet in Finland, too quiet. Lets invite some muslim "balkan gangs" to come in and set up camp. That should liven things up a bit.

The writer does all he can to figure out what the Finns might have done to deserve being slaughtered this way. That sounds to me like an untreated mental problem.

5 posted on 01/01/2010 2:08:38 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

“That sounds to me like an untreated mental problem.”
It is. It’s called liberalism.


6 posted on 01/01/2010 2:13:12 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Cindy

“Social exclusion” sounds like a hate crime waiting for a PR campaign.

I am glad he’s dead. Everyone is better off.


7 posted on 01/01/2010 2:13:40 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: kronos77

Aren’t Albanians Muslims/Islamics? I do believe most are and the rest are lying.


8 posted on 01/01/2010 2:41:47 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: kronos77

Ibrahim... sounds Amish.


9 posted on 01/01/2010 2:50:48 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Democrat_media

Shucks. I’d rather not have known that. But thanks: knowing is better than not knowing, no matter how painful.


10 posted on 01/01/2010 3:15:45 AM PST by JohnQ1 ("(BHO) can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know." - A Lincoln)
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To: kronos77

> a middle-aged man rebuffed by his ex-girlfriend broke a
> restraining order, killed her,

Imagine that.

Who would have thought that a violent batterer would violate a restraining order?

The only thing a restraining order can do is give the victim more legal leverage if they kill the jerk that violates the restraining order.


11 posted on 01/01/2010 4:26:42 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: kronos77
NPR’s first comment was that the Finns have the highest rate of gun ownership in Europe.

For some reason, they failed to mention that the shooter was not Finnish and most likely a perpetrator of the religion of peace.

12 posted on 01/01/2010 6:01:49 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: Westbrook

Now that Finland has recognized Kosovo as a independent sovereign state they should be able to pack up and go home.


13 posted on 01/01/2010 6:10:43 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Too many people here still don’t get it...

In libland the criminal is the real victim and the victims are the criminals.

Sheesh!


14 posted on 01/01/2010 6:22:08 AM PST by trofast
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To: kronos77

I smell a muzzie.....they should all be deported back to the rat hole of a nation called Albania.


15 posted on 01/01/2010 7:53:14 AM PST by gitmogrunt (The stupidity of Liberal's never ceases to amaze me.)
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To: kronos77
Actually, Finland is just discovering what most Kosovo Albanians are like, and they have decided that it is "a mental disease" rather than a culture.

Something similar happened in the US a few years back -- the Albanian came to a restaurant looking for his girlfriend and shot her boss & others, then he died in a car chase. Can't recall the exact details.

Situations like this beg the question: How many people came to the US post-WWII after having seen "the real horrors of war" and with little or no help from the government, and how many shoot-outs like this did we have back then?"

16 posted on 01/01/2010 11:59:26 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: kronos77

This is from the RAS news org blog:

24 Hours after the shooting in Finland occurred, excuses came up again:

“Yet there is some degree of social responsibility and the Finns will have to face up to it. A study of the mental health of mass evacuated Kosovo Albanians, conducted by Goeran Roth of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, revealed serious psychological problems, including post-traumatic stress disorder and clinical depression, and a greater sense of displacement than other migrant communities. The study was conducted in Sweden but tallies with results from many societies that took in war-scarred Bosnians or Kosovars. “

What nobody reports, about Kosovo Albanians:

Below is a 24 hr period in Kosovo of the most significantly reported.
Most crimes that are not reported are inter family/neighbourly conflicts from, shooting, stealing, rapes, attempted rapes and physical assault.

The rural areas are where most crime is committed and not reported.

Example: Father/Uncle/Grandfather/Brother/Cousin attempt or sexually abuse juvenile family member and the daughter is usually found hanging in the barn or in hospital after drinking cleaning chemicals. In whole, a lost society...

“27 Nentori” street, Prishtinë/Priština, (EN 138 266), 01.01.2010, 13:00 hrs. An unknown male suspect shot at the direction of a K-Albanian male victim causing him injuries in the hand and the leg. Victim was sent at Prishtinë/Priština hospital. Victim is out of life-threatening. No arrests reported.

Dardania quarter, Prishtinë/Priština, (128.0 235.0), 01.01.2010, 00:05 hrs. A K-Albanian male complainant reported that a stray projectile of fire-arm hit the window of his apartment. No injured persons reported. (Case#2010 AD 0003) 00009

Dardania quarter, Prishtinë/Priština, (128.0 225.0), 01.01.2010, 00:05 hrs. A K-Albanian male complainant reported that a stray projectile of fire-arm hit the window of his apartment. No injured persons reported. (Case#2010 AD 0004) 00010

Ulpiana quarter, Prishtinë/Priština, (131.3 223.4), 01.01.2010, 00:01 hrs. A K-Albanian male complainant reported that his apartment was caught on fire. Police units along with fire-brigade units went at the scene and extinguished the fire. No injured persons reported. (Case#2010 AD 0001) 00011

“Peja” street, Restaurant “Arra”, Fushë Kosovë/Kosovo Polje, (EN 076 205), 01.01.2010, 05:15 hrs. A fight and shootings with fire-arms by three K-Albanian male suspects reported. Police went at the scene and confiscated a pistol type “TT”, two magazines, 16 bullets, three knives and three cartridges caliber 7.62 mm. After being interviewed upon prosecutor’s order suspects were released whilst the case was sent in regular procedure.\

“Naim Syla” street, Prishtinë/Priština, (EN 249 134), 01.01.2010, 16:50 hrs. A K-Albanian male complainant reported that during the night his vehicle was damaged by a fire-arm projectile of an unknown caliber. No possible suspects reported

Letanc/Letance village, Podujevë/Podujevo, (EN 152 531), 01.01.2010, 17:30 hrs. A K-Albanian male complainant reported that inside the house his brother committed suicide with a fire-arm type “TT”. Police found the weapon after the victim’s sister threw it in the well.

Zhegër/Žegra village, Gjilan/Gnjilane, (EM 400 908), 01.01.2010, 10:30 hrs. A K-Albanian male witness reported a suspicious explosive device. Police and KFOR EOD unit went at the scene and destroyed the device without incidents.

Gotovushë/Gotovuša village, Shterpce/Štrpce, (EM 058 776), 01.01.2010, 00:05 hrs. A K-Serbian male suspect during celebration of New Year shot with pistol and wounded a K-Serbian female. Victim was sent at Graqanicë/Gracanica hospital. The weapon M57 and two magazines with seven (7) bullets were confiscated. After being interviewed, upon prosecutor’s order suspect was released.

Prelez i Jerlive village, Ferizaj/Uroševac, (EM 130 957), 01.01.2010, 00:10 hrs. A K-Albanian male complainant reported that during the night his vehicle was damaged by projectile of a fire-arm. No possible suspects reported. Vehicle sustained minor damages.

Manastirc/Manastirce village, Ferizaj/Uroševac, (EM 081 898), 31.12.2010, 23:25 hrs. A K-Albanian male suspect as being drunk assaulted his family members. Police went at the scene and confiscated a semi-automatic rifle (broken). By the order of prosecutor case is sent in regular procedure.

“Mic Sokoli” street, Rahovec/Orahovac, (DM 717 942), 31.12.2009 – 01.01.2010, 18:00 – 01:30 hrs. A K-Albanian male victim reported that unknown persons breached into his house (while nobody being in the house) and stole an amount of gold worth €4000 and €100 cash.

“Besim Shala” street, Prizren/Prizren, (DM 774 738), 01.01.2010, 00:15 hrs. A K-Albanian female is under treatment in Prizren hospital after being wounded by a stray projectile of fire-arm.

“Halil Hamza” street, Rahovec/Orahovac, (DM 717 942), 01.01.2010, 01:40 hrs. A K-Albanian female reported that she was physically assaulted and hit with hard device by her husband K-Albanian male who was intoxicated. Police units went at the scene. The victim was sent for medical treatment whilst the suspect is being held at police station.

Deçan (DN-419/097) 01.01.2010. 01:00. K / Albanian male complainant the security worker at the municipality building reported that unknown persons shot with fire weapons towards the building and that run away to unknown direction. The corresponding police units attended the scene and they found few shells. The damages on the building have been recorded. No injuries reported (Case# 2010-DC-001) 00008

Street - Abedin Terbeshi Gjakova/Djakovica (DM-530/918) 01.01.2010. 02:50 The K/Albanian male victim reported that he was shot and wounded by the K / Albanian male suspect. Police arrested and on prosecutors order detained two K/Albanian male suspects.

(Case# 2010-DB-001) 00017. Street: Brigada 131, Deçan/Decane (DN: 419-095) 01.01.2010 15:15 min. K / Albanian male complainant reports that he found suspicious explosive ordnance. Police units secured the area. The KFOR demining team attended the scene and took the ordnance.

Village: Qyshk, Pejë/Pec (DN: 465-230) 01.01.2010 09:45 min.K / Albanian male complainant reports that he found suspicious explosive ordnance (A6 type). Police units secured the area. The KFOR demining team attended the scene and they detonated the ordnance at the scene. No reports about any injuries or material damage.

(2009-DA-0005)00031Village: Trebovic Pejë/Pec (DN-47.0/25.1) 01.01.2009 11:00min. K / Albanian male complainant reports that he found suspicious explosive ordnance in the field in Trebovic village. Police units secured the area. The KFOR demining team attended the scene and they detonated the ordnance (hand grenade AG type) at the scene.

Case# (2009-DA-0006)00032 LIGHT BODY INJURY (case # 2010-BA-0001)00020 Street: Kral Petri Mitrovicë/ Mitrovica (DN-889-493) 01.01.2010 01:51 min. There has been a fight between the K /Serbian male suspects. Police attended the scene and three male suspects have been arrested. The victim K/Serbian male sustained body injuries and the same was sent for medical treatment. They were not able to contact the prosecutor and the suspects were sent to detention centre.

BODY INJURY (Case#2009-2010-BH-002)00030. Zubin Potok (DN-746/513) 01.01.2010, 03:30min. A fight involving five K/Serbian male suspects has been reported. The police intervened in order to stop the incident. Two persons have been injured and medically treated. On prosecutor’s order four suspects have been detained.

ILLEGAL POSSESSION OF WEAPONS (Case#2010-BA-004)00029. Street: Bore Stankoviq-Mitrovicë/Mitrovica (DN-894/489) 31.12.2009 12:00min. Serbian male complainant reported that the K/Serbian male suspect pointed the weapon towards him but one neighbor intervened and removed it. On prosecutor’s order police searched the house of the suspect and they found and seized one automatic weapon M70-AB2. After the interview the suspect was released for regular procedure.


17 posted on 01/02/2010 11:41:25 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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