Posted on 12/26/2009 6:59:53 AM PST by westcoastwillieg
Attorney Philip J. Berg defends Obama birth certificate lawsuits
Editor's note: Philip J. Berg, former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania and an activist attorney who brought a lawsuit challenging the eligibility of Barack Obama to become president of the United States, has written the following reply to Jamie Freeze's Dec. 22 RenewAmerica article "Facts are stubborn things: Obama is a natural-born citizen."
Jamie Freeze, a law student, has called any of us who question Soetoro/Obama's citizenship status and constitutional eligibility to serve as U.S. President --- a constitutional right of ours, of course --- incompetent idiots. Ms. Freeze, however, may want to continue her education. Part of being a lawyer, a very important part, is being able to comprehend what you read and to cite the correct law to collaborate it, something Ms. Freeze has clearly failed to do.
I will respond below to Ms. Freeze's allegations. My responses are in bold. I also want to make very clear to all readers that none of the eligibility cases have been heard, litigated, or dismissed based on the law pertaining to any of the issues raised. Instead, the eligibility cases have been dismissed on the basis of "STANDING" only.
(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...
Michelle Obama’s school & college records are sealed. No personal info to public from either one.
If you have nothing to hid why not flip the birth certificate out to settle the problem.
My grandpa was so proud to be born in Virginia he had it framed on the wall.
I guess times have changed...
I like your fix. :)
Michelle Obama’s school & college records are sealed. No personal info to public from either one.
If you have nothing to hid why not flip the birth certificate out to settle the problem.
My grandpa was so proud to be born in Virginia he had it framed on the wall.
I guess times have changed...
“a certified copy of a birth certificate showing that he was born on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu Hawaii. And noting a birth announcement published in a Honolulu newspaper.... Neither document was provided for the court, because neither document exist”
They have been posted on the internet.
“Why would Obama spend over 1.5 million dollars litigating these cases instead of just proving his citizenship status?”
I think post #36 hits the mark.
And Obama’s failure to “satisfy the spirit of it” eradicates all arguments of the anti-birthers.
I, too, am a birther. However, I cannot figure out for the life of me just how Philip Berg can call Obama a “natural-born” citizen with a father who was a British subject at the time of his birth. If Obama was born in Hawaii, he could be a “nationalized” U.S. citizen, but not a “natural-born” U.S. citizen as it pertains to Art II, Sec I, Cls 5 of the U.S. Constitution.
I noticed, Berg didn’t present any case law that would support his position in this regard either.
ex animo
davidfarrar
“Why would Obama spend over 1.5 million dollars litigating these cases instead of just proving his citizenship status?”
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Another internet rumor. Where is there any evidence that Obama has spent one nickel on this foolishness. Hew doesn’t have to. he has certification from the Hawaii Department of Helath that he has a valid birth certificate on file.
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Ping
Only if you make the misrepresentation that a computer-generated COLB is the same as an actual “birth certificate,” as you are doing. You know the two things are not the same and yet you engage in a fraudulent misrepresentation. What is your reward for that?
Really!
Where is any such certification?
ex animo
davidfarrar
So all you need is a laptop and an internet connection so you can show the judge the “evidence”?
Yes judge, I just need to find the website where I posted that document your honor, hold on it is here somewhere...
“ex animo”
I don’t get dragged into the legal thickets. All of the Kenyan’s vital records have been sealed. His autobiographies sound like KGB legends for under cover agents. I am convinced the Kenyan is a Manchurian candidate. Obviously, he has done nothing to dissuade me that he is not a communist mole.
HIs campaign has spent the money as a matter of public record.
You clearly know that but nonetheless falsely imply that this figure is made up. Who rewards you for this sort of misrepresentation?
Law school is really having an effect on her reasoning...hope she survives it.
Unlike those birther attorneys whose sharp legal minds have been laughed out of court no less than 62 times.
Yes, better to retain a birther lawyer. They've enjoyed so much success in the courtroom.
“... she needs to acquire a bit more humility, which should come as she grows through real life experiences, ... .”
Have you ever met ONE lawyer whose humility has grown after graduating from law school? Be good enough to name him/her, please.
She being trained to think she's intelligent which would make her impervious to reason and, hence, a permanent member of the Democratic Party.
And Merry Christmas -- there is still 11 days left in the season :-)
Didn’t Obama/Soetoro’s attorneys argue the same thing, i.e., because he’s a citizen he’s qualified? Looks like lots of blue smoke and mirrors. And, they are banking on our collective ignorance to fall for the charade. So far it’s worked with 53% of the American public.
I’m not a lawyer, but have worked with some really excellent ones over the years. I would not put Berg in that category, he strikes me as more a showboat than scholar. JMHO.
Don’t you know that there was no legal paperwork that had to be filed in any of the 50 states in which Obama was on the ballot? None. Nothing to be notarized or filed. No legal staff to challenge delegates or attend the primary caucuses. No paperwork to be filed with the FEC. No legal expenses whatsoever. Obviously it all went to the defense of the eligibility lawsuits. /s
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