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1 posted on 12/23/2009 7:43:52 PM PST by Thirteen
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frpom the UK and will say this right now.

this rag should look closer to home as my mam’s husband died from cancer due to long waiting lines and it took my mam nearly a year from start to finish to get her results and and get checked.

I’ve seen and heard about people dying in the UK so this rag should look at ZANU-Labour instead


2 posted on 12/23/2009 7:46:25 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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All I can think of is “You want the truth? You can’t stand the truth!” Keep at ‘em Sarah!


3 posted on 12/23/2009 7:46:48 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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hmmm...more like the Guardian told the biggest lie of the year. What ax do they have to grind?


4 posted on 12/23/2009 7:46:52 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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The UK, the home of Orwell.

The “biggest lie of the year” is the plain truth.


5 posted on 12/23/2009 7:49:33 PM PST by devere
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The Brits won’t be fooled. They know exactly what she’s talking about - a U.S. version of the UK “death panel” known as the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE).


9 posted on 12/23/2009 7:50:53 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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So, just what was Obozo’s lie about having the MOST transparent government and NOT allowing lobbyists to have access to his WH???? Just a fib?????


10 posted on 12/23/2009 7:51:28 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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Sarah rocks!

Palin 2012! =:-D


11 posted on 12/23/2009 7:52:28 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2412662/posts

Enough with the Paul Thompson crap.

12 posted on 12/23/2009 7:53:50 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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A panel of experts

A panel of experts on lying? That could be any congressional or Senate committee. They'll have to be more specific.

14 posted on 12/23/2009 7:55:33 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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16 posted on 12/23/2009 7:55:46 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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How can the truth be a lie?

If a person needs a medical procedure to prolong life and a bureaucrat says no - Well, I'd call that a Death Panel.

18 posted on 12/23/2009 7:58:44 PM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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In addition to having no sense of humor, liberals also lack any sense of hyperbole.


19 posted on 12/23/2009 7:58:51 PM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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I thought Obama saying this was the lie of the year..

“I, Barack Hussein Obama, will...preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”


21 posted on 12/23/2009 7:59:02 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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The term "death panel" is synonymous with "rationed care," with medicines and procedures decided upon by bureaucrats and politicians who use biased policies to determine who is more valuable to save vs who should be allowed to die.

When the ObamaCare cuts $500 billion from Medicare, mostly from senior citizens who have already paid into the system, "death panels" are a reality that is pre-determined to occur to the people you love the most — and eventually, to you.

Sarah was spot on.


27 posted on 12/23/2009 8:02:58 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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See a left-wing bias here? And the runners-up ...

PolitiFact readers overwhelming chose Sarah Palin’s claim that the health care bill contains “death panels” as Lie of the Year. A resounding 61 percent of our 4,864 voters picked death panels as the top lie. No other finalist in the field of eight statements came close.

Here are the runners-up:

• With 12.3 percent of the vote, a claim by conservative talk show host Glenn Beck that John Holdren, President Barack Obama’s top science adviser, “has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.”

• With 8.7 percent of the vote, a claim by Orly Taitz that a birth certificate showed that President Obama was born in Kenya.

• With 7.1 percent of the vote, President Obama’s statement that “preventive care saves money.”

Rounding out the rest of the finalists:

• 5.8 percent: The shout of “You lie!” by Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., in response to President Obama saying health reform would not insure illegal immigrants.

• 3.2 percent: The claim that Page 92 of the House health care bill “says specifically that people can’t purchase private health insurance after a date certain,” said by Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn.

• 1.7 percent: The claim that “When one person sneezes, it goes all the way through the aircraft,” said by Vice President Joe Biden, when fears of swine flu were prevalent.

• 0.5 percent: The claim that an amendment to the House health reform bill “puts new restrictions on women’s access to abortion coverage in the private health insurance market even when they would pay premiums with their own money,” said by Rep. Nita Lowey, D-N.Y.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/lie-year-runners-up/


29 posted on 12/23/2009 8:10:35 PM PST by Thirteen (You can lead a horse to drink, but you can't make it water.)
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There’s a van at my daughter’s (Catholic) high school with a bumper sticker that reads:

A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it;
The truth is the truth even if no one believes it

32 posted on 12/23/2009 8:13:15 PM PST by bwc2221
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Must have missed this one;

Obama “3.5 million Americans will now go to work”

Obama’s Weekly Radio Address 02 21 09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vWmtPRPpJo

THE PRESIDENT: Earlier this week, I signed into law the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act — the most sweeping economic recovery plan in history.

Because of this plan, 3.5 million Americans will now go to work doing the work that America needs done.


34 posted on 12/23/2009 8:15:21 PM PST by Son House (The Learning Curve for Democrats on Macroeconomics is getting Exponential)
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Paul Thompson, writing in the Telegraph, about death panels in the Obama/Reid/Pelosi death bill.


35 posted on 12/23/2009 8:15:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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Paul Thompson, writing in the Telegraph, about death panels in the Obama/Reid/Pelosi death [sic] bill.

Oh, Paul, you poor dope. The death panels aren't in the Obama/Reid/Pelosi health bill; they are in the already passed stimulus bill.
36 posted on 12/23/2009 8:17:56 PM PST by aruanan
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I believe the Telegraph is only reporting the panel and it's heavily loaded political hate. Nothing to do with the Telegraph it's self.

I would like to digress a little. Of course by the Grace of God and my hospital treatment as a very young person in the UK, I am still here. Sadly I do know very well the stories going the rounds about a form of euthanasia practiced there. I do not have any facts though. My great aunt had Parkinson's disease. It may have been brought on by a house being bombed next door. She was 63 years old. She told her daughter she was on borrowed time, while in the hospital. She never made it out.

The legend and it may be an urban legend in England, was said to be "withdrawal of fluids". I say this because I do not trust bleeding heart liberals. This breed is universal and need to be watched. They care not for the persons who have served their time and are considered no longer any use.

Big lie my foot. Sarah is the gold.

39 posted on 12/23/2009 8:19:02 PM PST by Peter Libra
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