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Facts are stubborn things: Obama is a natural-born citizen
Renew America ^ | 2009-12-23 | Jamie Freeze

Posted on 12/23/2009 6:08:15 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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1 posted on 12/23/2009 6:08:16 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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"Facts are stubborn things: Obama is a natural-born citizen"

There is one very simple proof of that assertion, eh?

2 posted on 12/23/2009 6:10:59 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Don't start the revolution without me.)
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Why doesn't Obama show us all his Smallpox Vaccination?
3 posted on 12/23/2009 6:11:08 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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I don’’t appreciate articles that are smug, self righteous and dripping with contempt for those that have a different opinion, but heh, that’s just me.


4 posted on 12/23/2009 6:11:41 AM PST by traderrob6
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Facts are based on what we know from hard evidence.

All we know about this putz is someone posted “online” (as if that is hard evidence) a copy of a COLB - which wouldn’t even get any of us a passport.

Oh and we have some hard evidence of the amount of legal fees he’s paid to hide his true birth certificate.

The “natural citizen” stuff- is based on anecdote and faith.


5 posted on 12/23/2009 6:12:14 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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Therefore, Obama can’t be anything other than a natural born citizen.

Well, we don’t know if he kept his citizenship.


6 posted on 12/23/2009 6:13:10 AM PST by freedomfiter2
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The President released his birth certificate (which was verified by the Hawaii Health Department) yet conspiracy theorists refuse to see logic.

The whole argument hinges on this tidbit right here. And as far as I know, it is false. We have not seen the long-form birth certificate and so we cannot say if Obama was, or was not born in Hawaii.

The question being asked ("Is he a natural born citizen?") is a perfectly legitimate question. Obama has spent over $1M to avoid answering it.

7 posted on 12/23/2009 6:13:14 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Macbeth is ripe for shaking, and the powers above put on their instruments.)
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You assume he was born in Hi..

Show me the stuborn FACTS about where and when concerning his place of birth, then I’ll look at the rest of your diatribe; If needed.


8 posted on 12/23/2009 6:13:21 AM PST by maine yankee
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Facts are stubborn things. IF Obama’s Father is BRITISH CITIZEN Obama Senior, then Obama is not NBC under ANY law whether he was born in the USofA or Canada or Kenya.

Liberals try too hard and show their lack of comprehension as soon as they open their mouths or hit the keyboard.


9 posted on 12/23/2009 6:13:54 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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The President released his birth certificate (which was verified by the Hawaii Health Department)

NO such even has ocurred. BARRY HAS NEVER RELEASED HIS BC. The two HI officials have stated a brith certificate was obswerved in HI - ABSOLUTELY NO COMMENT HAS BEEN OFFERED REGARDING THE CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION ON WHETHER BARRY'S BIRTH MEETS THE NBC REQUIREMENTS BY HI OFFICIALS.
10 posted on 12/23/2009 6:14:01 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: rabscuttle385

Yet the section quoted in point #2 of his argument expressly does not refer to ‘natural born’, and he ignores the historical evidence of what ‘natural born’ means and meant. Psssh.


11 posted on 12/23/2009 6:14:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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You can contact Jamie at j.l.freeze@juno.com.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 6:14:35 AM PST by BushCountry (We divide into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.)
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1. Obama was born in Hawaii.

False.

He was born in Kenya. Multiple relatives, including his grandmother, say so.

He received a Certificate of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii a couple of years after it became a state, when it was catching up on legal paperwork. People could apply for a COLB long after the fact, with no evidence of anything.

The fact that Obama obviously has no intention of running for a second term proves that he knows he can't.

13 posted on 12/23/2009 6:14:40 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Interesting that Ms. Freeze’s incoherent diatribe is not set up to allow comments.

Another pathetic excuse for a lawyer being spewed out of one of America's law schools. And already arrogant to boot. Just what we need.

14 posted on 12/23/2009 6:15:38 AM PST by chrisser (Tweet not, lest ye a twit be.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Jamie Freeze’s brain must be FROZEN to push such an illogical simplistic argument!


15 posted on 12/23/2009 6:16:14 AM PST by A. Morgan (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. Lawrence)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The author is arguing here that Hawaii had no “long-form” birth certificate in 1961.


16 posted on 12/23/2009 6:16:34 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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Why not spend $15.00 plus the .44 postange and have the actual birth certificate released and why hire lawyers to fight off those requests? That’s simple too and IF spending hundreds of thousands on lawyers to fight to keep from spending $15.00 plus .44 is not the height of incompetency, I don’t know what is.


17 posted on 12/23/2009 6:18:13 AM PST by DEsaxum
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To: rabscuttle385

Why post this nonsense?


18 posted on 12/23/2009 6:19:04 AM PST by devere
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the entire article is crap once it said that obama was born in Hawaii!!


19 posted on 12/23/2009 6:19:50 AM PST by dalereed
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