Posted on 12/21/2009 10:05:52 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
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Hypothetically speaking, it seems to me that the people who are most serious about this sort of thing wouldn't post about it on the Internet.
Are you looking for someone to admit to something?
Do you think it will make a difference in the end?
Really?
Meh.
Your not going to stop it and the only people who CAN, wont because that would mean giving up the power over our lives.
It is inevitable... Better chose your side carefully.
The articles WERE too weak. That's why the Congress sent delegates to Philly---to amend them. At that time, there was widespread agreement that the general gubmint needed power over regulation of commerce, which at the time meant imports/exports--duties and imposts, foreign trade relations. And they needed the power to collect taxes and pay off debts. That was it. But the Federalists showed up in Philly ready to launch a whole new government. The rest, as they say, is history.
Thanks for the feedback.
They would.
But what would you know about this sort of thing?
The subject is you signing on to this call for killing, why not explain to us how you crossed over to that world.
Indiscriminate killing isn’t the answer. There must be purpose, objectives, and overall strategy. Killing a few meat inspectors doesn’t break the chains of tyranny.
How on earth did you derive that from my asking you a simple question? If you don't want to answer it, that's fine. Just say so. But trying to turn a question into a statement of my intentions is somewhat bazaar.
I have no intentions of deliberately killing anybody at this time. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't throw a party if a few commmies met their maker, though.
Nothing. My discussion is purely hypothetical.
But I would surmise that there are probably already people out there who have passed the "shoot the bastards" stage. Once they've got there, I further surmise that they probably would not be interested in posting about it on FR. That's what prosecutors like to call "creating evidence."
I personally was surprised we did not see car bombing following 9/11
I, too, had much the same thought. No idea why, for instance, they didn't go after power substations and force all the NYC work to be done in the dark?
More to the point... How much damage could 20 well-motivated (motivated enough to kill themselves!) men do to a generally law-abiding society like the US? They were certainly clever enough to work within the confines of the US, and smart enough - at least some of them - to learn how to fly a modern airliner, navigate to a specific target, and hit the target.
I try not to think too hard about things like this, particularly in the light of current events. The next couple of months promises to be interesting, particularly if unemployment takes another jog upward, as what I've read is predicting.
Nothing worse for politicians than angry, armed citizens that are out of work, just had most of what they have left confiscated, and have nothing better to do.
Truly, history does repeat itself, but only if those in power choose to ignore it.
I challenge you to back up your comment.
What aspects of the Constitution do you admire?
OK. Let's organize them
Agreed on all points. We need to get over this paralysis about urban rioting however, as we are held hostage in our own nation with that threat. Frankly, it would provide an opportunity to cull the worst elements from the herd.
Not so random acts of violence, these are what we now need to seriously consider. This is what we have come to.
None of us want this. We've pretty much exhausted all other means.
What else can we do?
That Madison was manipulated? He must have been an idealist. His statements and beliefs were proven wrong in practice almost immediately. I think that he had a blind spot. Meanwhile, I think there were men with more cunning, less scruples, who took advantage. Hamilton comes to mind. It was Hamilton who teamed up with Madison early on, at a convention held in Mass., and laid the groundwork for Philly. It was Hamilton who worked with Madison to get it passed. And then, as soon as Washington took office, Hamilton started to work expanding federal power. Madison was left flat-footed, like he didn't see it coming. And Hamilton won the argument.
What aspects of the Constitution do you admire?
It's difficult to think of a single thing.
I believe that any random acts of violence will be self-defeating, and I’m opposed to them.
Agree as to random, and at this time. I am not advocating such actions based on what we have at the present, but the math doesn’t look promising.
When you compare Madison and Hamilton’s essays to the antifed essays I mentioned, you’ll see right away who was right and who was wrong.
Hamilton was not a patriot. He wished for an authoritarian State.
This isn’t something that is planed. Therefore its not something to keep quite about.
This is something that is happening without a central plan. It is a change in the mood, perceptions and loyalties of people. It is happening because the efforts of the marxists and it cannot be stopped unless the marxists suddenly stop, and we know they wont.
The purpose of talking about this on the internet is to let those folks know they are not alone. They are in good company and that they are part of a cause that is gaining momentum.
Yes... Some of us are pushing in that direction but will gladly stop if the marxists pack their sh— up go home and forever give up any plan to enslave us. GLADLY...
But just as with any war, one side has to give up before it happens. I would hope that would be the bad guys (the marxists).. and you should hope that it wouldn’t be the good guys (us). You know what though? Neither side is going to back down.
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