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I don’t travel in liberal circles much, so last night was a real eye-opener as to how much this country is in deep doo-doo. I went to my brother’s house (Marin County, CA) for our family’s annual Dungeness crab feast. It’s no secret in my family that my political position is hard starboard at flank speed, so out of deference to the occasion I made a personal vow not to steer the conversation to current events. Alas, my best intentions were scuttled by my brother’s neighbor lady let slip a snarky comment about Sarah Palin not believing in global warming.

I quickly asked her if she had seen the “climategate emails,” and she had NO CLUE what I was talking about. This woman has a daughter in university and is employed as a professional by Marin County. It’s interesting to note that earlier in the evening she disclosed that she had spent several hours at Borders sipping coffee and reading “trash” magazines for free. She was fully versed on Tiger Woods.

In light of my vow, I let it drop – until we left the dinner table. I took her aside and diplomatically asked if she was familiar with the axiom, “Follow the money.” She said she was, and I asked her what she thought about “cap and trade.” My jaw almost hit the floor when she revealed that she had NEVER HEARD OF IT!!! I gave her a very quick encapsulation of the scheme to trade “air” as a commodity and the people who stood to benefit from it.

Then we got to Sarah Palin…

This was as the party was breaking up and we were headed for the door, so it was quick. Her position was that she did not like Sarah. I asked her why, and she said, “I don’t know, I just don’t like her.” So I asked her if it was like “feminine intuition or something like that,” and she agreed that was the case. So I asked her again, “surely you must have a reason for disliking her?” Her reply was something to the effect of a statement that Sarah had made about Bristol’s pregnancy. I said I wasn’t familiar with what she was alluding to, but I did ask her if she had heard Sarah say that “she could see Russia from her backyard,” to which she quickly agreed that she had. I pointed out that it was actually Tina Fey who had uttered that famous quote.

To make a long story short, I suggested that she needed to do her “research,” and told her that the internet had newspapers from all over the world for free. “Oh, like the New York Times,” she said. I hinted that the NYT might be slightly biased, and suggested for a start that she check the BBC (I didn’t want her head to explode) and the Washington Times. She honestly seemed interested in my suggestion, however her parting shot was,

“I won’t change, I’m a social worker, you know.”

God help us!

Rant mode – off.

1 posted on 12/14/2009 8:14:55 AM PST by GunsAndBibles
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I understand. I work with professionals here in the DFW area. We work in the healthcare administrative sector. They didn’t know the Teaparty protests even tool place. Nor did they know about Climategate.

They will look stuff up when I tell them or send it to them (sometimes). One of them chooses not to know.

They have labeled me the residentconsipacy theorist.

It’s amazing how the people who only watch MSM are brainwashed.


121 posted on 12/14/2009 9:37:30 AM PST by call meVeronica
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Dude, I sooo sympathise. I was raised in Marin County, the point of origin for the term “yuppie” and “I want it all now”. Marinoids live on latte, hot tubbing and forays to Trader Joes. The sleepy villages of Marin were invaded by a mass migration of hippies from San Francisco in the post-flower power years and basically had their brains turned to oatmeal mush with crystals, yoga, fad gurus, anti-mucous diets, high colonic therapy, foot massage phrenology, and rampant other-directed self image pop-psychologies. The only sane people left there are the dairy farmers who have responsibilities and work hard.


124 posted on 12/14/2009 9:56:44 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (consciousness is a heads up display)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Brainless liberal? But you repeat yourself!


125 posted on 12/14/2009 9:58:46 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Lately most of the “libs” I deal with have been very quiet when it comes to politics. In the past they always liked to make sweeping commentaries, even if the topic wasn’t political. Even my mum who actually campaigned for Obama, doesn’t bring him up. I’ve come to the conclusion, at least with lefties who follow the news...there’s really nothing for them to say.
I’m looking forward to a wonderful Christmas, with NO political commentary lol I don’t even feel the need to say anything...I can just smugly grin :)


127 posted on 12/14/2009 10:11:45 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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“I won’t change. I’m a social worker, you know.”

Translation: If I REALLY thought about what I do for a living, I’d have to admit that I’m stealing the taxpayers’ money. Not that that’s a problem...it’s just that what I claim to be doing makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in the lives of the people I purport to help. And admitting that would be really, really bad for my self-esteem.


130 posted on 12/14/2009 10:17:35 AM PST by Clioman (wHAT)
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To: GunsAndBibles

A perfect paragraph for Arguing with idiots.
Beck says it best.


134 posted on 12/14/2009 10:25:21 AM PST by Frenchtown Dan
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I have several Very liberal friends that I exchange e-mail rants with. Sometimes I am confronted with an obvious irrational bias of opinion. When this happens I flood them with an overwhelming tsunami of information with embedded links, quotes and my own commentary, with the suggestion that they pull their heads out and do their own research. I consider it tough love.

The “follow the money” approach is very effective in some cases. Recently, I verbally beat up a died in the wool disciple of global warming with the Ken Lay connection and worked in the GE and Goldman Sachs angle. This hit him close to home as he is a “big business” hater since his wife, who worked for Arthur Anderson lost her well paid job as a result of the Enron collapse. I then followed it up with some Al Gore quotes especially the one about the earth’s core temperature, and of course the “climate gate” scandal.

Another liberal friend of mine was ranting about the “military industrial complex” he is ex military, but has Bush derangement syndrome. He was silenced by a reminder of all the good things the “MIC” has brought us. I sent him a short list that included things like: The wheel, The Interstate highway system, transistors, semiconductors, computers, The internet, microwaves, radar, sonar, aviation (especially helicopters),many advancements in trauma surgery and medical procedures, anything with a laser, nuclear energy, space program, satellite TV / communications, Polypropylene underwear, Kevlar, Silly putty, paint ball, M&M’s, synthetic fuel, flu shots, cell phones and a million other things. I then reminded him that it is us, we are it. It has made us what we are and he is part of the problem. That shut him up.

As far as Sarah Palin is concerned, I think her detractors feel inferior and it is natural for some to attack the things that make them look (or feel) bad in comparison. These are basically un happy people and can’t be helped by any amount of reason.
I would suggest you simply remind them of the way Sarah has worked hard from humble roots and been successful in business, family and politics. Then ask them what they have achieved and leave it at that. Let them simmer in their own juices and then move on.

I won’t let them win. If you can’t reason with and or educate them, embarrass them, they’ll get over it, and if not, good riddance.


139 posted on 12/14/2009 11:05:01 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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It’s a waste of time. I spent months online setting the record straight with liberals and their claims about Palin, backed up with facts. I explained how the money for the bridge to nowhere was already given to state before Palin entered office and the lengths to which Stevens went to remove any strings. I posted her federal requests and budgets showing consistent drops and the necessity to request funds for unfunded federal mandates. None of it mattered. Absolutely not one thing....


143 posted on 12/14/2009 11:49:23 AM PST by FTJM
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Marin County?

Skip the shower and go directly to the hazmat decontamination unit now!

145 posted on 12/14/2009 11:56:10 AM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: GunsAndBibles; Grampa Dave
“I won’t change, I’m a social worker, you know.”

Why do they need social workers in affluent effluent Marin County?

146 posted on 12/14/2009 12:00:28 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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It seems to me that there is more mental illness in the Nation than ever before.

And approximately 99% of those with severe mental illness tend to vote democrat.

Not quite sure what to make of this fact, but there are a lot of them out there.

Glad to see that you kept your cool while trying to explain things to her. You must have felt like a psychiatrist talking to a lunatic.

Speaking of lunatic, did you ever see that interview that FNC had with Jane Fonda? As she ran into her limo, the reporter asked something related to Bill O'Reilly. Fonda's parting statement to the reporter was:

"Bill O'Reilly doesn't exist! He doesn't exist!!!!!!!!!"

They caught the whole thing on videotape!

149 posted on 12/14/2009 12:45:28 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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A couple of comments:
1. a brainless liberal is redundant, and,
2. I have had several conservations with liberals that went about the same way. One time a woman in our neighborhood said some comments and I asked her some specific questions that she could not answer. I told her that not knowing anything about a topic is the definition of a liberal. I asked her to pick any topic, to become well informed about that topic and get back to me and I would be willing to tell her why she was wrong. She never did.


154 posted on 12/14/2009 1:10:56 PM PST by NeilGus
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Uh...Sarah Palin herself, DID state that she could see Russia from her house. Tina Fey followed up with using it on SNL.


155 posted on 12/14/2009 1:14:25 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: GunsAndBibles

So, the upshot is that you went to Marin County, socialized with a liberal woman, and got crabs?


156 posted on 12/14/2009 1:16:05 PM PST by matt1234
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To: GunsAndBibles

The real parting shot: I’m a social(ist) worker, you know.


160 posted on 12/14/2009 1:24:51 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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and she had NO CLUE what I was talking about.
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She had a clue.

Remember **ALL** Marxists ( I refuse to call them liberals) ***LIE***!!!

If a person tells me they are liberal, I immediately know two things:

1) They will **LIE** about anything.
2) They are Marxists.

165 posted on 12/14/2009 1:46:22 PM PST by wintertime (qw)
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BFL In Petaluma


167 posted on 12/14/2009 3:22:37 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead. Bonus tag line: FAIL 246, Obama 0)
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A line I’ve always found to settle the situation is, If Gov Palin can shoot wolves from airplanes, she can handle congress.

Pray for America and Gov Palin


169 posted on 12/14/2009 4:14:28 PM PST by bray (Palin can see the White House from her Porch)
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Topic:
“My dinner with a brainless liberal last night.”

You had dinner with my brother last night?


174 posted on 12/15/2009 6:00:41 AM PST by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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Her position was that she did not like Sarah. I asked her why, and she said, “I don’t know, I just don’t like her.”

None of them can explain why they don't like Sarah Palin. They just don't. Probably because their DNC daily talking points told them to not like her.

179 posted on 12/16/2009 12:13:58 PM PST by meyer (Government health care = national strike.)
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