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Taliban can be admired for their faith and loyalty, says bishop
telegraph.co.uk ^ | Dec.13, 2009 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones and Duncan Gardham

Posted on 12/13/2009 9:18:07 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

The Rt Rev Stephen Venner called for a more sympathetic approach to the Islamic fundamentalists that recognises their humanity.

The Church of England’s Bishop to the Forces warned that it will be harder to reach a peaceful solution to the war if the Afghan insurgents are portrayed too negatively.

His comments came as the Prime Minister visited Afghanistan and warned that the Taliban was fighting a "guerilla war" aimed at causing "maximum damage". Gordon Brown said soldiers were discovering improvised explosive devices every two hours.

Mr Brown stayed overnight in the Allied base in the southern city of Kandahar, the first British Prime Minister to spend the night in a war zone since Winston Churchill. His visit came days after the death of Lance Corporal Adam Drane, the 100th member of the British forces to die in Afghanistan this year. His death brought the total number of British service personnel who have died since the start of operations in 2001 to 237.

Bishop Venner stressed his admiration for the sacrifices made by the British forces fighting in Afghanistan but also urged the need for a reassessment of how the Taliban are viewed.

“We’ve been too simplistic in our attitude towards the Taliban,” said Bishop Venner, who was recently commissioned in his new role by Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

“There’s a large number of things that the Taliban say and stand for which none of us in the west could approve, but simply to say therefore that everything they do is bad is not helping the situation because it’s not honest really.

“The Taliban can perhaps be admired for their conviction to their faith and their sense of loyalty to each other.”

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1 posted on 12/13/2009 9:18:07 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Bishop is stuck on stupid.


2 posted on 12/13/2009 9:20:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I swear to God, my head is gonna explode!


3 posted on 12/13/2009 9:21:32 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The same may be said of Cottonmouth Moccasins!


4 posted on 12/13/2009 9:23:46 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Graybeard58

yes.


5 posted on 12/13/2009 9:25:39 PM PST by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

W-H-A-C-K-J-O-B-!


6 posted on 12/13/2009 9:28:46 PM PST by cranked
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I read Bishop and thought, what the heck. But then I read Church of England and it all made sense. I guess sucking up to islamists in England isn’t enough for these idiots.


7 posted on 12/13/2009 9:31:46 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (A good Blue Dog is an unelected Blue Dog. Ditto Rino's!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
conviction to faith and sense of loyalty to each other

I see this as symptomatic of a distasteful facet of the English character that saw many of them support the Nazis in the Thirties: authoritarian, totalitarian, antisemitic.

8 posted on 12/13/2009 9:34:24 PM PST by Praxeologue
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“The Taliban can perhaps be admired for their conviction to their faith and their sense of loyalty to each other.”

Would Bishop Venner approve of Christians showing the same conviction to their faith and sense of loyalty by slaughtering Muslims? And each other?

Most of those killed by the Taliban are, of course, other Muslims.

The Bishop isn't speaking as a Leader of the Faith. He speaks as a politically correct wimp.

9 posted on 12/13/2009 9:36:09 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Can they be admired for what they would do to Christianity if given the chance? Does this idiot admire Hitler for his dedication?


10 posted on 12/13/2009 9:47:23 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is this bishop nuts?


11 posted on 12/13/2009 9:48:48 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: All

Alright...if I ever was going to get banned; this is the day and this is the moment.

If you’re under age 18, are physically or mentally ill stay off this thread.

Thank you.


12 posted on 12/13/2009 9:48:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hear Satan is particularly committed to his doctrine.


13 posted on 12/13/2009 9:50:05 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (KILL THE BILL!!!)
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First we start by looking at key words.

Let’s start by looking at TALIBAN-related articles:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/taleban/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/taliban/index


14 posted on 12/13/2009 9:50:13 PM PST by Cindy
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Remember I warned you...

Next let’s take a look at beheadings here:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/cat_beheading.php


15 posted on 12/13/2009 9:51:42 PM PST by Cindy
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Remember that warning...

When you’re finished with the beheadings; let’s look at ACID ATTACKS:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2323654/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/acid/index?tab=articles

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/acidattack/index?tab=articles

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/acidattacks/index?tab=articles


16 posted on 12/13/2009 9:54:40 PM PST by Cindy
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Well, I’m not done.

How about all those schools (especially girls’ schools) that that Taliban burn down?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/girlsschools/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/girlsschool/index


17 posted on 12/13/2009 9:57:05 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He must be absolutely infatuated with the Nazis, then.


18 posted on 12/13/2009 9:58:47 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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Oh for pete sakes, I can’t leave out the SUICIDE-HOMICIDE BOMBERS, now can I?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/suicidebombers/index
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/homicidebombers/index
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/humanbombs/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/suicidebomber/index
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/homicidebomber/index
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/humanbomb/index


19 posted on 12/13/2009 9:59:54 PM PST by Cindy
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Hey kids (and older people too); have you been to the Taliban jihad camps?

Let’s look at this kid’s account:

Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2301719/posts

Teenage bombers are rescued from Taleban suicide training camps
TimesOnline ^ | July 27, 2009 | Zahid Hussain
Posted on July 26, 2009 7:40:40 PM PDT by Kaslin

Murad Ali, one of five schoolboy suicide bombers rescued from a Taleban training camp, looks haggard beyond his 13 years.

He was thrilled at first when he was given a gun, but Murad told The Times last week of his ordeal at the hands of the Islamists, who have kidnapped 1,500 children like him to prepare for their fatal missions.

Murad was studying in class five in Mingora, the main city in northwest Pakistan’s Swat Valley, when the Islamists abducted him and took him to their remote mountain base in Chuprial.

Looking drained in his smudged clothes and dirty sandals, he gave a glimpse into the short life that awaits boys who are taken by the Taleban.

The next stage of his training included 16 hours a day of physical exercise and psychological indoctrination. “My instructor told me that martyrdom is the biggest reward of Allah,” Murad said quietly.

Another boy, Abdul Wahab, 15, said that the Taleban lured him to the camp from his studies at a madrassa — Islamic school — in Mingora. “I was told that it was a religious duty of every Muslim to get training to fight the enemies of Islam,” he said.

He said that he did not appreciate what he would be asked to do. “I panicked when a few days later I was told that I would be getting training for suicide bombing,” he said.

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20 posted on 12/13/2009 10:02:07 PM PST by Cindy
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