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Taliban can be admired for their faith and loyalty, says bishop
telegraph.co.uk ^ | Dec.13, 2009 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones and Duncan Gardham

Posted on 12/13/2009 9:18:07 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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Of course if you need more Taliban videos to watch; just head over to youtube or archive.org


21 posted on 12/13/2009 10:02:54 PM PST by Cindy
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Finally, we'll revisit this SNIPPET from post no. 1:

"“The Taliban can perhaps be admired for their conviction to their faith and their sense of loyalty to each other.”"

22 posted on 12/13/2009 10:05:51 PM PST by Cindy
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The Rt Rev Stephen Venner, YOU HAVE WON:

-the IDIOT OF THE YEAR award.

-the STUCK ON STUPID OF THE YEAR award.

If you really said the statement in post no. 1 and repeated in post no. 22; you sir, richly deserve these awards.

If you did not make that statement; I will gladly revoke your awards.


23 posted on 12/13/2009 10:10:23 PM PST by Cindy
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Note: The following post is a quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2238161/posts

Taliban hand over body of beheaded Polish man
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | April 26, 2009
Posted on April 26, 2009 9:58:33 AM PDT by Schnucki

Taliban militants on Sunday handed over to Pakistani officials the body of a Polish man who was beheaded in February after being held by the hardliners for months, officials said.

Geologist Piotr Stanczak, 42, was working in Pakistan for a Polish oil and natural gas exploration company when he was seized in the volatile northwest of the country last September. His abductors killed his driver and his bodyguard.

His decapitation on February 7 – which was filmed by his captors and was the first of a Pole by Islamic militants – provoked a furious reaction from Warsaw, which slammed Islamabad’s “apathy” over tackling terrorism.

Stanczak’s body was handed over to officials in the town of Razmak, located about 40 miles south of Miranshah, the main town in the restive North Waziristan tribal district bordering Afghanistan, an official said.

It came as Pakistan launched a new offensive against militants in the Swat Valley.

“Taliban handed over the body of the Polish engineer to the local administration,” a security official said.

The official said the body was flown out of the area by helicopter but would not disclose the destination for security reasons.

In Islamabad, a Polish diplomat said that the embassy was awaiting further details about the recovery of Stanczak’s body.

Poland had offered a one-million-zloty (£197,000) reward for information leading to the capture of Taliban militants who beheaded Stanczak.

Warsaw had also requested US assistance to help capture Stanczak’s killers.

Poland is a close ally of Washington and has sent hundreds of troops to Pakistan’s neighbour Afghanistan to battle the Taliban there as part of a Nato force.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


24 posted on 12/13/2009 10:14:07 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Before you rip the Bishop too much, he’s not alone in noting this. Peter Kreeft, a conservative Catholic professor at Boston College, has noted many times that in a standard of devotion to their faith, Muslims are more often than not better and more faithful people than Western Christians. Look at America and Europe. Can we really deny that? They’re not the ones changing their holy book with the times to suit their convenience. They’re not the ones going “Oh God gave me the gift of homosexuality”. That doesn’t change the horrible crimes that groups like Al Qaeda have done, but I don’t think you can deny that the average Muslim... especially in the Middle East... is completely devoted to their faith.


25 posted on 12/13/2009 10:14:17 PM PST by DesScorp
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Let’s not forget the Taliban hate Christians, Jews and barbershops.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2396212/posts

PAKISTANI CHRISTIAN ON RUN FROM TALIBAN DEATH THREAT
COMPASSDirect.org - COMPASS News ^ | November 27, 2009 | N/A
Posted on November 29, 2009 1:48:56 AM PST by Cindy

“Pakistani Christian on Run from Taliban Death Threat

Islamic extremist sermonizing leads to altercation at barbershop in South Waziristan.”

SNIPPET: “LAHORE, Pakistan, November 27 (CDN) — A young Christian man is in hiding in Pakistan from Taliban militants who seek to kill him for “blasphemy” because he defended his faith.

In February Jehanzaib Asher, 22, was working in a barbershop his family jointly owns with his cousin in Wana, South Waziristan – a Taliban stronghold in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas in Pakistan’s northwest – when the Islamic militants showed up to try to convert him to Islam.”

SNIPPET: “He told Compass that he only defended Christianity and did not comment on Islam.”

SNIPPET: “The cousins’ barbershops in Wana have been closed after the encounter with the Taliban. Zaib Masih said that two relatives have government jobs as janitors, and the two families are surviving on their meager salaries.

Since the closing of their barbershops, Zaib Masih said, the families have living hand-to-mouth – barely able to have two meals a day.

South Waziristan is the headquarters of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, the Taliban umbrella group fighting the government, and is a hub of Arab and Uzbek Islamic militants. In mid-October the Pakistani Army launched an offensive after the Taliban managed to take the army’s general headquarters in Rawalpindi.”

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26 posted on 12/13/2009 10:22:18 PM PST by Cindy
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To: DesScorp

I’m not Catholic, so not familiar with the Bishop.

Does he also “admire” the Taliban like the Bishop allegedly said?


27 posted on 12/13/2009 10:24:31 PM PST by Cindy
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Let’s not forget muslim lurkers; that the Taliban is big on killing other muslims, too.

One example here:

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2400820/posts

Suicide bombers assault mosque in Rawalpindi, kill 40
LONG WAR JOURNAL.org ^ | December 4, 2009 8:26 AM | by Bill Roggio
Posted on December 5, 2009 1:22:49 AM PST by Cindy

SNIPPET: “The Taliban have struck again in the heart of Pakistan’s military garrison city of Rawalpindi. A Taliban suicide assault team estimated at between three to five men entered a mosque in the city and opened fire on the worshippers and detonated their vests, killing 40 and wounding 83 more. The attack killed two senior generals and wounded another.

Two of the members of the suicide assault team have been killed. The assault team was not interested in taking hostages or negotiations, according to the Pakistani military.

“They exploded bombs inside the mosque,” Major General Athar Abbas, the top military spokesman told AFP. “They opened fire on the worshippers... There is no hostage situation. Two terrorists have been killed.”

The blasts caused parts of the roof of the mosque to collapse.

The attack took place in a mosque that is used by Army officers on a day when the mosque is sure to be filled; Friday is the Muslim day of prayer.

“There were about 200 or 300 worshippers in the hall,” an eyewitness told AFP. “Army officials mostly offer their Friday prayers in this mosque.”

Major General Bilal Omar Khan, who had served as the commander of the Pakistani Rangers, Brigadier Abdul Rauf, the son of the Peshawar Corps commander, and two lieutenant colonels were killed in the attack, according to Samaa and Geo News. Many children of active military officers were killed and wounded in the bombing. General Mohammad Yousuf, the retired former Vice Chief of Army Staff, was also wounded.

The Taliban and allied terror groups have struck at the military and police forces in Pakistan’s major cities...”

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/12/suicide_bombers_assa.php#ixzz0Ynw4oM9c

(Excerpt) Read more at longwarjournal.org ...


28 posted on 12/13/2009 10:27:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

While I understand where hes coming from I think hes going to need to do alitte better at pointing out their better qualities.


29 posted on 12/13/2009 10:31:43 PM PST by Spartanocalypse
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"Does he also “admire” the Taliban like the Bishop allegedly said?"

Absolutely not. He makes it clear he's talking about the average Muslim, and frankly, I think he's right. Muslims do tend to be more faithful, on average, than Westerners do. We've put out big screen TV's, McMansions, and sexual appetites first before God in too many cases. Most Muslims would never try to "re-interpret" the Koran. Western Churches do it all the time. The LA Episcopal diocese just appointed a Lesbian bishop just to get a rise out of Westminster. You simply don't see Mosques doing garbage like that. Again, this is not to defend Islamic aggression against the West... just a recognition that more often than not, most of them believe in their faith more than we do ours. You'll find no Muslim scholars arguing that the Koran was a scam and that Mohammad never existed. In most US universities... including ones that were created to train ministry, like Harvard, Princeton, and Wake Forest... these deniers of Christ are pretty prominent, and in the Divinity faculty.
30 posted on 12/13/2009 10:36:08 PM PST by DesScorp
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Thank you for answering my specific question.

As for your Christianity as you describe it; I’m not one of those — I’m a real Christian — a Christ follower.

If you want to debate that with anyone, take it to another thread, please.

This is just a thread regarding the “admiration” of “the Taliban.”

Again, thanks for answering my question.


31 posted on 12/13/2009 10:40:29 PM PST by Cindy
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More Taliban-related beheading videos:

www.liveleak.com/view?i=995_1234146947

hk.video.yahoo.com/video/video.html?id=1330905&p=.


32 posted on 12/13/2009 10:43:20 PM PST by Cindy
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stepping back to 2008...

http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/americas/Lady-condemns-Taliban-attack/Article1-351382.aspx

“First Lady Bush condemns Taliban acid attack on schoolgirls”

Afghanistan, November 14, 2008
First Published: 10:49 IST(14/11/2008)
Last Updated: 16:28 IST(14/11/2008)
Print

SNIPPET: “First Lady Laura Bush condemned on Thursday a recent assault on Afghani schoolgirls, describing the act as “cowardly and shameful.”

On Wednesday adult male attackers used a water pistol to spray acid at schoolgirls in Afghanistan’s southern city of Kandahar, hurting 15 of them, three seriously.

“My heart goes out to the victims and their families as they recover from this cruel attack,” said Bush in a statement.

Kandahar and other large Afghan cities have suffered from a surge of assassinations and bombings by the radical Islamist Taliban movement.

Bush commended Afghani women and girls for thriving in a country where just nine years ago, under Taliban rule that lasted between 1996 and 2001, women were denied many basic rights, includingf trading.”


33 posted on 12/13/2009 10:46:58 PM PST by Cindy
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So you’re saying the Taliban is bad?


34 posted on 12/13/2009 10:54:29 PM PST by SantosLHalper (I am the World that hides the Universal secret of All time.)
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Taliban can be admired for their faith and loyalty, says bishop

All that demonstrates is that bishops can be imbeciles too.

There's nothing admirable about the uncontrollable mindless urge to constantly blow up, kill, maim, and destroy as a reaction to abstract "disrespects..."

35 posted on 12/13/2009 11:53:01 PM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Graybeard58

Christian Apostasy = Rise of Islam


36 posted on 12/14/2009 1:18:23 AM PST by x_plus_one (once you take the red pill; its impossible to re-submerge yourself in the lefts illusions...)
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Will the last one out of the Anglican Church kindly turn out the lights?


37 posted on 12/14/2009 1:21:35 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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This whacky bishop is to the Taliban what Timothy Treadwell was to Grizzly bears.

I say parachute him into the middle of Taliban country and let him live what he preaches.


38 posted on 12/14/2009 5:09:30 AM PST by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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reverend vennor, using the same criteria of feeling(because I’m fairly certain there is little that could pass for thought happening within your skull), joseph stalin had a strong work ethic and loved his mother making him an admirable man.

You sir, are an idiot and an embarrassment to your church.


39 posted on 12/14/2009 6:13:24 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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