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Fluoridation bill passes NJ Senate panel
Water Tech Online ^ | 12/9/09 | Water Tech Online

Posted on 12/11/2009 6:55:13 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe

 

TRENTON, NJ — The New Jersey Senate’s health committee on December 7 passed a bill that would require fluoride to be added to public water supplies throughout the state, The Star-Ledger reported December 8.

Environmental advocates, utility companies and some parents object to the bill (A3709/S2856), which would require public and private water utilities to start adding fluoride within a year of the law’s enactment.

Some lawmakers say the bill would be too costly to the consumer, yet the Senate Health, Human Services and Senior Citizens Committee voted 6-0 with three abstentions to approve the bill.

There are more than 6 million households in the state.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: fluoridation; fluoride; icecreammandrake; newjersey; poe; preciousbodilyfluids; purityofessence; water
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To: concerned about politics

The fluoride that is put in drinking water is fluorine (gas) in a compound with either sodium, silicon, or both. None of these are heavy metals.


21 posted on 12/11/2009 7:40:16 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Eva
Fluoride is a heavy metal,

That is an incredibly ignorant statement. It is neither heavy nor a metal. It is element number 9 and comes right after oxygen in the periodic table. It is in column VII, and is the the first of the halogens.



22 posted on 12/11/2009 7:40:44 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Eva
Fluoride is a heavy metal

Ummm ... no.

Flouride is a halide. Halides are the naturally occuring states of the Halogen chemical elements Flourine, Cholorine, Iodine, and Bromine. Halogens are higly reactive NON-METALLIC minerals. They tend to form salts by combining with the Alkili metals like Phosphorous, Sodium, Lithium, Cesium, etc.

It never goes away.

Of course it doesn't. Halogens always form very highly stable but inert compounds. That's why Flourine is used in teflon, uranium enrichment, Chloro-Flouro-Carbons, etc.

It has been suggested that putting fluoride in the water was a government device to dispose of the fluoride.

Yes, such rubbish has been suggested since the time of Dr. Strangelove. However, you might take note of the number of cavities and state of teeth in the population born up to around 1950, and then compare that to children born in the 1970's or 1980's. Where the silent generation and early boomers have mouth's full of cavities, children and young adults today rarely have any cavities, or if they do, only a few small ones. The difference is water flouridation, and flouride treatment at the dentist, flouride in toothpaste, and flouride in mouthwash.

23 posted on 12/11/2009 7:44:24 AM PST by Heliand
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To: Heliand

No shortage of chemist here on FR!!!

:-)


24 posted on 12/11/2009 7:48:26 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: Eva

> Fluoride is a heavy metal

Err, no, it is not. It isn’t a metal, and it isn’t heavy, but apart from that, I guess you’re close.


25 posted on 12/11/2009 7:50:29 AM PST by MikeGranby
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To: Heliand

I didn’t think that sounded right, but that was what I was reading. It is definitely a poison, though, and the locals, here did win a huge law suit for the contamination, and it does cause symptoms similar to lead poisoning. It crippled the local cows and caused some problems with the deer, too.

The problem in Whatcom County was so acute, that the department of ecology had to come in and manage the area around the smelter.


26 posted on 12/11/2009 8:00:53 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: Paleo Conservative

You’re right, it was ignorant, but it is still a poison.


27 posted on 12/11/2009 8:02:32 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
The Center for Disease Control (CDC) states, “Community water fluoridation is safe and effective in preventing tooth decay, and has been identified by the CDC as one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century.” Additionally, the past five Surgeons General have supported community water fluoridation and encouraged communities to fluoridate their water.

The City of Grand Rapids, MI was first to do water fluoridation, starting in January 1945.

28 posted on 12/11/2009 8:07:37 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: MikeGranby
This is what they were talking about: The chemists refer to this material as silicofluorides and have now conclusively shown that the fluoridation material is linked to other heavy metal toxins ...
29 posted on 12/11/2009 8:09:20 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: ASA Vet

The Surgeons General and the CDC staff are free to drink as much poison as they like. I won’t.


30 posted on 12/11/2009 8:14:00 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

For now the USA is still a semi free nation. Go ahead and pay for bottled water.


31 posted on 12/11/2009 8:16:23 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: ASA Vet; NewJerseyJoe

We will know there is a real recession when Americans cease paying for water that is essentially free.


32 posted on 12/11/2009 8:22:21 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: ASA Vet; bert

I have a well. I don’t pay anything for my water, which I then filter ... and it doesn’t have any fluoride (unless naturally occurring).


33 posted on 12/11/2009 8:31:00 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Somebody should set Jim Gearhart STRAIGHT on this subject.

You pay money for WATER W-A-T-E-R H20 NOT a government designed SUPERSOUP!

EVERYTHING in government proceeds by DEGREES. Today its Flouride - TOMORROW - WHO KNOWS!

If somebody wants Fluoride in their water, give them a packet of Fluoride Salt and tell them to have fun.

Do you REALLY want to drink a liquid DESIGNED by the GOVERNMENT??!!!!! This just ANOTHER case of the tail wagging the dog and the inner city constituency dictating government policy because they don't take care of their own kids.

Like LEADED PAINT. I grew up in houses with LOTS of Leaded Paint. NEVER had a problem. WHY? I never gnawed the woodwork. But SOME constituencies are too busy with “OTHER” activities than to supervise their kids, SOOOO they want the STATE to do it FOR them. NOW, NOBODY can use lead based paint.

The very same constituencies use the VERY SAME LOGIC to try and ban guns.

NOBODY in MY neighborhood shoots off guns in the streets over drug deals. But then I don't live in Camden or any OTHER one of those Democrat ward dominated cesspools.

34 posted on 12/11/2009 8:31:18 AM PST by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: bert
We will know there is a real recession when Americans cease paying for water that is essentially free.

And in many cases came from the same taps they're avoiding.

35 posted on 12/11/2009 8:31:33 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: ASA Vet

The CDC opposes gun ownership because it is dangerous for “children” - and other people.

My GUESS is SOMEBODY’s relative in Trenton has a FLOURIDE company.


36 posted on 12/11/2009 8:32:35 AM PST by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Eva
What is a poison? Poison is dosage related and fluoride at a safe dosage is not a poison. Pure drinking water can be a poison when one is overdosed. Do remember the Wii contest of a few years ago and a lady died from drinking too much water? If one uses the term poison one needs to address dosage. We also add chlorine and pot ash to the drinking water and chlorine has the potential to be a much greater poison then fluoride. The anti fluoride folk are making money on sell their books
37 posted on 12/11/2009 8:34:22 AM PST by tongass kid
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To: ZULU

So go ahead and pay for bottled water. That way you’re not supporting that Evil Flouride Company.


38 posted on 12/11/2009 8:36:37 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
They added it to my water a few years ago. I had a leak in my koi pond & added hose water. Killed 25 of my koi fish. Now I have to use an additive when using my hose water to fill the pond. I was going to get a rain barrel but I am trying to sell & it is winter. I liked my water just fine & liked it even better when I could use my well. However Brick decided to outlaw well water for the house. We can use it for the grass. I always forget as it is just hooked up to my sprinkler system now.
39 posted on 12/11/2009 8:38:51 AM PST by pandoraou812 (time to dump tar & feathers on DC)
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To: tongass kid
If one uses the term poison one needs to address dosage.

Not on FR they don't.

These threads pop up a couple times a year, with the same arguments every time.

40 posted on 12/11/2009 8:39:46 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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