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Gore responds to Sarah Palin on climate change: “It’s like gravity. It exists.”
Hotair ^ | 12/10/2009 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/10/2009 7:58:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Don’t be daunted by the length. His comments on Palin and Climategate, replete with lies about how old the e-mails are, come within the first four minutes. (The Goracle’s never been good with guesstimates.) The left’s been breathing into a paper bag since last night over WaPo’s decision to run her op-ed, but Gore’s response here is comparatively restrained. Instead of grandstanding for his base by calling her a yokel or whatever, he sticks to his argument and declines to attack her personally. Presumably that’s because he’s a bit more politically savvy than his carbon-belching pals at Copenhagen and would rather not make this more of a partisan issue than it already is. Or maybe he simply doesn’t want to alienate someone like Palin who accepts that climate change is happening and even concedes that man may be contributing to it. She could be useful to him eventually in forging a consensus that global warming is real, even if the debate over its chief cause will rage on.

For the moment, however, the message machine is preoccupied with the scandal du jour:

COPENHAGEN — “Climategate” has muddied the good green message that was supposed to come out of the United Nations climate change talks here, forcing leaders to spend time justifying the science behind global warming when they want to focus on ending it…

“I think this is a completely annoying distraction,” added Kim Carstensen, leader of the World Wildlife Fund’s Global Climate Initiative. “It’s very clear that this has been done to discredit climate research. … It’s a bluff. There’s nothing in it; it’s just a huge distraction.”…

“It’s another Internet frenzy thing,” Goldmark told POLITICO Wednesday. “These things get a life, and they reproduce themselves like little bacteria. … Our attitude is, it’s the same old stuff from the same old people, and it doesn’t change the science at all. None of the NGOs pay a lot of attention to it.”

Actually, the most interesting exchange here isn’t the Palin or Climategate, it’s Gore’s palpable disappointment at around 11:45 that The One decided to make ObamaCare the focus of his first year instead of cap and trade. That’s good political sense — health care has been the left’s top domestic priority for ages and it’s always stood a better chance of getting through the Senate than C&T — but like George Will said yesterday, if Earth truly is in the balance then what the hell are they doing putting this off until next year? How much of a crisis can it really be?

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Folks,

Don't you notice the subtle but still noticeable shift in the use of terminology nowadays ?

Over 10 years ago, the buzz word was GLOBAL WARMING. I noticed that the past few years, we don't hear that term used very often anymore. It has now been replaced by the term -- CLIMATE CHANGE.

Anybody care to explain why ? I have my own pet theory but I'd like to hear your opinion first.

1 posted on 12/10/2009 7:58:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NO Al Bore! Liberal/Democrat/Obama America Sucks!


2 posted on 12/10/2009 8:00:46 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/10/2009 8:01:22 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: SeekAndFind
You missed Palin's response earlier today ...

" Vice President Gore, the Climategate scandal exists. You might even say that it’s sort of like gravity: you simply can’t deny it."

- Sarah Palin

4 posted on 12/10/2009 8:01:52 PM PST by Liberty Valance (This is my box of Kleenex. There are many like it but this one is mine. Ahhh-Choo!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its climate change because they can’t predict which way it will go. This way, rain or shine, hot or cold, if the ocean rises or falls...

They’re covered. And you still need to elect socialists if you want to save the planet.


5 posted on 12/10/2009 8:01:55 PM PST by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey AL.
Gravity is a LAW.
Your bogus stuff is not only theory. It is bogus...


6 posted on 12/10/2009 8:02:02 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SeekAndFind
Anybody care to explain why ? I have my own pet theory but I'd like to hear your opinion first.

Geez. They already clamored about global cooling in the late 60s early 70s and then global warming in the late 80s and 90s. If they go back to warn about global cooling then they'll just seem fickle. They want to have it both ways and so adopt the term "climate change" to cover anything they care to dream up.
7 posted on 12/10/2009 8:02:57 PM PST by aruanan
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To: SeekAndFind

Warning. Allahpundit absolutely HATES Sarah Palin.

Actually, Sarah answered Gore beautifully on Facebook. It was posted here a bit earlier.


8 posted on 12/10/2009 8:03:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind
Over 10 years ago, the buzz word was GLOBAL WARMING. I noticed that the past few years, we don't hear that term used very often anymore. It has now been replaced by the term -- CLIMATE CHANGE

Because the globe isn't warming.

9 posted on 12/10/2009 8:04:06 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Gravity is a LAW

Law? You know better than that. Al's not bound by any controlling legal authority. ;^)

10 posted on 12/10/2009 8:05:06 PM PST by fhayek
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To: SeekAndFind

Gravity is a physical law over which we have no control; all in all Gore has chosen a very apt description for climate change.


11 posted on 12/10/2009 8:05:09 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Msr Al Gore, please note;

1 - Man made global warming climate change is bovine scatological product.

2 - You are a con artist.

3 - Furthermore;

Global warming will erase your hard drive. Not the data, but your actual hard drive! Not only that, but it will scramble any disks that are even close to your computer. It will recalibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice cream goes melty. It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your television and use subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you try to play.

It will give your ex-girlfriend your new phone number. It will mix Kool-aid into your fishtank. It will drink all your beer and leave its socks out on the coffee table when there's company coming over. It will put a dead kitten in the back pocket of your good suit pants and hide your car keys when you are late for work.

Global warming will make you fall in love with a penguin. It will give you nightmares about circus midgets. It will pour sugar in your gas tank and shave off both your eyebrows while dating your girlfriend behind your back and billing the dinner and hotel room to your Discover card.

It will seduce your grandmother. It does not matter if she is dead, such is the power of Global warming, it reaches out beyond the grave to sully those things we hold most dear.

It moves your car randomly around parking lots so you can't find it. It will kick your dog. It will leave libidinous messages on your boss's voice mail in your voice! It is insidious and subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold. It is also a rather interesting shade of mauve.

Global warming will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave the toilet seat up. It will make a batch of Methanphedime in your bathtub and then leave bacon cooking on the stove while it goes out to chase gradeschoolers with your new snowblower.

Listen to me. Global warming does not exist.

It cannot do anything to you. But I can. I am sending this message to everyone in the world. Tell your friends, tell your family. If anyone else bothers me with fearmongering concerning Global warming, I will turn hating them into a religion. I will do things to them that would make a horsehead in your bed look like Easter Sunday brunch.

12 posted on 12/10/2009 8:05:19 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it gravity, or does the earth suck?


13 posted on 12/10/2009 8:06:22 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a classic shifting-of-grounds debate technique - if you’re losing an argument, shift to arguing something different and then claim they are the same. It’s a weak tactic - but it works when no one calls you on it.

Everyone will agree that “climate change happens”. 18,000 years ago, the place where I’m sitting would have been covered with ice! But while it’s obvious that the actions of mankind have nothing to do with how the climate changes, it’s an easier argument for them to win.

Algore and his ilk have known for a long time that they couldn’t prove “warming” so they shifted to “climate change” and are now trying to claim they’re the same thing.

Yes, they think we are that dumb.


14 posted on 12/10/2009 8:06:29 PM PST by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s called both. But for the past several years, when I’ve sent my kids or grandkids some new story suggesting that there IS no global warming, they usually respond something like, “Well (you old fogey—words not said but implied), it’s not “global warming,” it’s “climate change.”

Global warming is the best term to scare people with, but if the person they’re talking to starts pointing out that, well, actually, it’s been getting cooler, then they can make their comeback with “climate change.”

And that, in their mind, settles the argument. Or at least it did until climategate, which seems to have actually penetrated some of their impermeability.


15 posted on 12/10/2009 8:08:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Let’s face the facts...

Here are 2 things that are NOT IN DISPUTE:

* It is accepted by all climate scientists (mainstream and skeptic alike) that CO2 and other Green house gas molecules reflect heat (IR radiation) back to the earth and thus reduce heat loss due to radiation.

* It is also accepted that if there were no Green house gases in the atmosphere, the earth would be about 60 degrees F colder. This follows from the laws of black body radiation which is about as well established as any law of physics.

So, where does the scientific DISAGREEMENT LIE ?

The dispute is about how much additional warming additional CO2 would cause. If it were only the universally accepted greenhouse effect the additional warming would be very small.

The real dispute is about positive feedback effects and their importance.


16 posted on 12/10/2009 8:08:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No matter what they call it, it AIN’T caused by human activity ... and if they think so, let them try to gin up some solar activity that’s been lacking lately.

Snake oil, flim flam, shell game. This is outrageous.


17 posted on 12/10/2009 8:08:38 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is because climate change actually does happen. Every single year the climate changes as the seasons change. So, there’s no way to argue against climate change.


18 posted on 12/10/2009 8:10:56 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: SeekAndFind
But but but....the science is settled, a majority agree, there's a consensus, peer reviewed, peer reviewed, peer reviewed, peer reviewed....


19 posted on 12/10/2009 8:11:26 PM PST by FTJM
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To: marron
Its climate change because they can’t predict which way it will go. This way, rain or shine, hot or cold, if the ocean rises or falls...

That's what I reckon... but more importantly, those who swap the terminology from GLobal Warming to Climate Change want to tar and feather those who are skeptics of Anthropogenic Global Warming as NUTS. No one denies the Climate Changes, it is HOW IT IS CHANGING and TO WHAT EXTENT MAN IS AFFECTING ( OR CAN THEY ) THE CHANGE that people are questioning.

Since the temperature of the earth has been observed to be COOLING for the past decade, they have to change the terminology in order to cover their behinds.
20 posted on 12/10/2009 8:12:09 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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