Posted on 12/10/2009 7:58:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Dont be daunted by the length. His comments on Palin and Climategate, replete with lies about how old the e-mails are, come within the first four minutes. (The Goracles never been good with guesstimates.) The lefts been breathing into a paper bag since last night over WaPos decision to run her op-ed, but Gores response here is comparatively restrained. Instead of grandstanding for his base by calling her a yokel or whatever, he sticks to his argument and declines to attack her personally. Presumably thats because hes a bit more politically savvy than his carbon-belching pals at Copenhagen and would rather not make this more of a partisan issue than it already is. Or maybe he simply doesnt want to alienate someone like Palin who accepts that climate change is happening and even concedes that man may be contributing to it. She could be useful to him eventually in forging a consensus that global warming is real, even if the debate over its chief cause will rage on.
For the moment, however, the message machine is preoccupied with the scandal du jour:
COPENHAGEN Climategate has muddied the good green message that was supposed to come out of the United Nations climate change talks here, forcing leaders to spend time justifying the science behind global warming when they want to focus on ending it
I think this is a completely annoying distraction, added Kim Carstensen, leader of the World Wildlife Funds Global Climate Initiative. Its very clear that this has been done to discredit climate research. Its a bluff. Theres nothing in it; its just a huge distraction.
Its another Internet frenzy thing, Goldmark told POLITICO Wednesday. These things get a life, and they reproduce themselves like little bacteria. Our attitude is, its the same old stuff from the same old people, and it doesnt change the science at all. None of the NGOs pay a lot of attention to it.
Actually, the most interesting exchange here isnt the Palin or Climategate, its Gores palpable disappointment at around 11:45 that The One decided to make ObamaCare the focus of his first year instead of cap and trade. Thats good political sense health care has been the lefts top domestic priority for ages and its always stood a better chance of getting through the Senate than C&T but like George Will said yesterday, if Earth truly is in the balance then what the hell are they doing putting this off until next year? How much of a crisis can it really be?
CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR VIDEO OF ALGORE's COMMENTS
Don't you notice the subtle but still noticeable shift in the use of terminology nowadays ?
Over 10 years ago, the buzz word was GLOBAL WARMING. I noticed that the past few years, we don't hear that term used very often anymore. It has now been replaced by the term -- CLIMATE CHANGE.
Anybody care to explain why ? I have my own pet theory but I'd like to hear your opinion first.
NO Al Bore! Liberal/Democrat/Obama America Sucks!
" Vice President Gore, the Climategate scandal exists. You might even say that its sort of like gravity: you simply cant deny it."
- Sarah Palin
Its climate change because they can’t predict which way it will go. This way, rain or shine, hot or cold, if the ocean rises or falls...
They’re covered. And you still need to elect socialists if you want to save the planet.
Hey AL.
Gravity is a LAW.
Your bogus stuff is not only theory. It is bogus...
Warning. Allahpundit absolutely HATES Sarah Palin.
Actually, Sarah answered Gore beautifully on Facebook. It was posted here a bit earlier.
Because the globe isn't warming.
Law? You know better than that. Al's not bound by any controlling legal authority. ;^)
Gravity is a physical law over which we have no control; all in all Gore has chosen a very apt description for climate change.
1 - Man made global warming climate change is bovine scatological product.
2 - You are a con artist.
3 - Furthermore;
Global warming will erase your hard drive. Not the data, but your actual hard drive! Not only that, but it will scramble any disks that are even close to your computer. It will recalibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice cream goes melty. It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your television and use subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you try to play.
It will give your ex-girlfriend your new phone number. It will mix Kool-aid into your fishtank. It will drink all your beer and leave its socks out on the coffee table when there's company coming over. It will put a dead kitten in the back pocket of your good suit pants and hide your car keys when you are late for work.
Global warming will make you fall in love with a penguin. It will give you nightmares about circus midgets. It will pour sugar in your gas tank and shave off both your eyebrows while dating your girlfriend behind your back and billing the dinner and hotel room to your Discover card.
It will seduce your grandmother. It does not matter if she is dead, such is the power of Global warming, it reaches out beyond the grave to sully those things we hold most dear.
It moves your car randomly around parking lots so you can't find it. It will kick your dog. It will leave libidinous messages on your boss's voice mail in your voice! It is insidious and subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold. It is also a rather interesting shade of mauve.
Global warming will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave the toilet seat up. It will make a batch of Methanphedime in your bathtub and then leave bacon cooking on the stove while it goes out to chase gradeschoolers with your new snowblower.
Listen to me. Global warming does not exist.
It cannot do anything to you. But I can. I am sending this message to everyone in the world. Tell your friends, tell your family. If anyone else bothers me with fearmongering concerning Global warming, I will turn hating them into a religion. I will do things to them that would make a horsehead in your bed look like Easter Sunday brunch.
Is it gravity, or does the earth suck?
It’s a classic shifting-of-grounds debate technique - if you’re losing an argument, shift to arguing something different and then claim they are the same. It’s a weak tactic - but it works when no one calls you on it.
Everyone will agree that “climate change happens”. 18,000 years ago, the place where I’m sitting would have been covered with ice! But while it’s obvious that the actions of mankind have nothing to do with how the climate changes, it’s an easier argument for them to win.
Algore and his ilk have known for a long time that they couldn’t prove “warming” so they shifted to “climate change” and are now trying to claim they’re the same thing.
Yes, they think we are that dumb.
It’s called both. But for the past several years, when I’ve sent my kids or grandkids some new story suggesting that there IS no global warming, they usually respond something like, “Well (you old fogey—words not said but implied), it’s not “global warming,” it’s “climate change.”
Global warming is the best term to scare people with, but if the person they’re talking to starts pointing out that, well, actually, it’s been getting cooler, then they can make their comeback with “climate change.”
And that, in their mind, settles the argument. Or at least it did until climategate, which seems to have actually penetrated some of their impermeability.
Let’s face the facts...
Here are 2 things that are NOT IN DISPUTE:
* It is accepted by all climate scientists (mainstream and skeptic alike) that CO2 and other Green house gas molecules reflect heat (IR radiation) back to the earth and thus reduce heat loss due to radiation.
* It is also accepted that if there were no Green house gases in the atmosphere, the earth would be about 60 degrees F colder. This follows from the laws of black body radiation which is about as well established as any law of physics.
So, where does the scientific DISAGREEMENT LIE ?
The dispute is about how much additional warming additional CO2 would cause. If it were only the universally accepted greenhouse effect the additional warming would be very small.
The real dispute is about positive feedback effects and their importance.
No matter what they call it, it AIN’T caused by human activity ... and if they think so, let them try to gin up some solar activity that’s been lacking lately.
Snake oil, flim flam, shell game. This is outrageous.
It is because climate change actually does happen. Every single year the climate changes as the seasons change. So, there’s no way to argue against climate change.
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