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A Stability Police Force for the United States
Rand Corporation ^ | Several

Posted on 12/07/2009 5:22:42 PM PST by FromLori

Justification and Options for Creating U.S. Capabilities

Establishing security is the sine qua non of stability operations, since it is a prerequisite for reconstruction and development. Security requires a mix of military and police forces to deal with a range of threats from insurgents to criminal organizations. This research examines the creation of a high-end police force, which the authors call a Stability Police Force (SPF). The study considers what size force is necessary, how responsive it needs to be, where in the government it might be located, what capabilities it should have, how it could be staffed, and its cost. This monograph also considers several options for locating this force within the U.S. government, including the U.S. Marshals Service, the U.S. Secret Service, the Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs (INL) in the Department of State, and the U.S. Army's Military Police.

The authors conclude that an SPF containing 6,000 people — created in the U.S. Marshals Service and staffed by a “hybrid option,” in which SPF members are federal police officers seconded to federal, state, and local police agencies when not deployed — would be the most effective of the options considered. The SPF would be able to deploy in 30 days. The cost for this option would be $637.3 million annually, in FY2007 dollars.


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To: Markos33

Well I expect to be getting out of the Guard sometime next year because of medical reasons so personally it don’t matter to me. But when I talk to really good dedicated soldiers in my unit who are talking about quitting it makes me wonder what the future is going to be.

The National Guard and all of the Reserves have done one hell of a job the last nine years. Iraq, Afghanistan, Kossovo, homeland security duty in Airports and elsewhere right after 9/11, disaster response such as Katrina, etc. They have been a dependable workhorse but it seems like the Obama administration wants to send the workhorse to the glue factory and spend the proceeds on social spending.

The Guard and all the military deserves better.


221 posted on 12/08/2009 2:44:25 PM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: dcwusmc

“The last I recall for sure was the beat down of the Bonus Army back in the 30s, which saw Hoover out of office, which gave us FDR, a SAD day for America. MacArthur was Army Chief of Staff at the time and Majors Eisenhower and Patton were intimately involved in that debacle.”

There’s a lot of disinformation concerning that incident. I haven’t read the papers about this incident in many years so my memory may be a bit fuzzy.

What happened during the Bonus Army march was that the marchers were infiltrated by communists and anarchists. (This was known by the leftists as the ‘Progressive era’) These red flag wavers, as they were known, occupied federal buildings under construction. The DC police ordered them out and the vets left, while the commies and anarchists refused to leave.

The commies attacked the DC police, killing one officer and injuring many. Thus, Hoover ordered the Army out to remove the commies and anarchists, not the vets who had already obeyed the order to leave.

The incident is never reported correctly, as it serves the government to make people believe that the army will attack them. It’s a good bogeyman.

An earlier matter concerned the 2nd whisky rebellion. The government needed cash to pay for the Civil War, so it imposed a whisky tax that mainly affected the southern states. Naturally, the south resisted and ran the revenuers off. So the army was called in to supress the rebellion.

You can read old reports from the army that recommended that the federal government not try to collect the tax. The whisky makers were heavily armed, organized and willing to fight. Several hundred died on both sides in skirimishes. It was a stalemate that lasted for 60 years until Capone and buddies took over the booze business.


222 posted on 12/08/2009 2:54:01 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: FromLori

btt


223 posted on 12/08/2009 4:13:53 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: dcwusmc
From 300-500 yards? That would take one hell of a skilled surgeon.

;-)

224 posted on 12/08/2009 5:10:44 PM PST by Gargantua (Appropriate that the re-birth of our great nation be delivered by a woman.)
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To: FromLori

marking


225 posted on 12/08/2009 6:27:59 PM PST by Lorica
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To: Gargantua

Nah. Any good Marine rifleman could do it...


226 posted on 12/08/2009 6:40:45 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: erman

Excellent post, and you are absolutely right.


227 posted on 12/08/2009 6:54:19 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Art in Idaho; dcwusmc

They’re going to pick us off one or a handfull at a time.


228 posted on 12/08/2009 7:17:55 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Swiss; Markos33

Your observations on the Guard getting the short end of the stick make perfect sense in light of the current mentality in Washington.

National Guard forces are under the command of the State’s Governors - correct?

Dictators do not share power.


229 posted on 12/08/2009 7:32:26 PM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: dcwusmc; Gargantua
Nah. Any good Marine rifleman could do it...

And with open sights.

230 posted on 12/08/2009 7:41:34 PM PST by Semper Mark (Merry Christmas, y'all.)
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
The authors conclude that an SPF containing 6,000 people...
...whereas 'Civ concludes that a border patrol and INS increased by 6000 people, along with an effective multilayer fence the full length of the US border with Mexico, would be a much better use of the money. Thanks hennie pennie.
231 posted on 12/08/2009 8:00:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: riri; erman
This is something everyone needs to see - it came to my attention maybe a year ago and I downloaded all the interviews and lectures and watched them.

RIRI, I believe you are right in your thinking of the "Soviet" mentality being still alive, but my belief has been we still have actual first generation Soviet operatives serving in the US House and Senate, plus a good number of dedicated spawn.

The Present Occupant himself is a premium example of the latter, much more than the average useful idiot.

232 posted on 12/08/2009 10:00:32 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (MMM MMM MM!)
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To: Art in Idaho

The only thing is: What about the Maxine Waters, Barney Franks people? How about the John Conyers and even Barack Obamas? The Alcee Hastings and Nancy Pelosis? What do we do with the districts THEY live in? How are we going to get THESE people out?

We might be able to vote out the meeker ones who aren’t as much of a problem, the ones who got into the ‘red’ districts with conservatives in them. But what about the ones that keep putting the above individuals in, over and over again?


233 posted on 12/09/2009 1:24:22 AM PST by dsutah
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To: dcwusmc
I was just teasing. I could make that shot with my .22 Marlin without its Leupold Mark 4 ER/T. In a crosswind at 2,000 metres I'd want the ER/T.

;-)

234 posted on 12/09/2009 4:13:32 AM PST by Gargantua (Appropriate that the re-birth of our great nation be delivered by a woman.)
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To: A Navy Vet

I agree. If a bunch of civilians were to think that armed response was the answer, it would be a joke. Now about the fact that we have many former Green Berets and Marines with training in COIN and in asymetrical warfare would lead even the most cynical people to the conclsion that if we were to end up in armed internal conflict the easy takeover wouldn’t be that “easy”.


235 posted on 12/09/2009 7:07:58 AM PST by erman
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To: EdReform
What would local LEO do? Really think about all the response from local officials while Waco and Ruby Ridge occured ? Not one d*mn thing. F'ng joke. Dozens of women and children burned alive, a woman shot in the head and a boy killed.......... But the media painted them unworthy of protection because of fake child molestation charges and being white Christian supremasists like Senator Byrd.

the Oath Keepers don't need a secret club and magic decoder ring. It is and will be infltrated by agent provacateurs from the FBI, NCIS and any other military investigating agency. As long as guys worry about their pensions and feeding their familes the " public" is on it's own.

236 posted on 12/09/2009 7:23:49 AM PST by erman
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To: FromLori

I missed this Lori. Do you have a ping list, if so put me on it.


237 posted on 12/09/2009 7:46:57 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

Yes I do I just started one a couple weeks ago happy to put you on it.


238 posted on 12/09/2009 8:20:25 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: elkfersupper

After they fire the first shots, WE are absolved from further obedience. That’s why WE may NOT shoot first.

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” ~ John Locke

(taken from http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2008/07/vanderboegh-internet-introduction-to.html)


239 posted on 12/09/2009 8:43:28 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: EdReform
Picked up by whom? The local LEO’s won’t participate and few, if any of the Alabama NG will follow such orders. With the way Obama and his democrat comrades have continued to screw the military, do you think most will follow unconstitutional orders to rape the liberty of their families and fellow citizens?

Thanks for the warning, but I’ll keep my memberships in Oath Keepers, RWVA, NRA, GOA - and my powder dry...

look here , http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2403744/posts, and tell me if the LEO's helped or hurt.... so now he's going to be given a psych label to never be able to own a weapon... legally.

one big team... so go ahead and join clubs and we'll see how often LEO's risk their pensions and their family's bread to defend the "rights" of citizens. I'm sure they're the same descendants of the German LEO's that protected Jews, or the Italian LEO's that defended the Italians or the Serbian LEOs that defended the Croats...

It's not a put down, but a fact. We look out for our own safety and survival first, family and then the outsiders.

That's why it's incremental. It'll never be one big push, but just the chipping away till it all seems hopeless. Then it'll feel like one man, you, against the whole government. That's what they want you to believe.

We're headed for trouble and the only way out is to look at what resources we have, including the vote, Alinsky's rules, and Mao. Plus several thousands of men trained as trainers that have gone to places like School of the Americas, Ft. Benning, 29 Palms and Indonesia for some training on TDY.

or not.

240 posted on 12/09/2009 11:22:09 AM PST by erman
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