Posted on 12/07/2009 1:31:12 PM PST by rockabyebaby
Where was the blueprint for healthcare written you ask?? Join us and find out.......STAND UP AMERICA, GET OUT OF THE FETAL POSITION AND MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD. Welcome to the GLENN BECK television thread...Shake the cobwebs out of your brain...We are another day closer to the REVOLUTION that will change the 2010 elections. All comrades, infidels, sick twisted freaks and lurkers are welcome and are encouraged to participate in the thread!
Why thank you rockabyebaby. Very nice to see you as well!
Waiting for GB’s announcement...
Idiots cheering the potential demise of Insurance companies.
“Listen to Your Mother: Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win, Robert Creamer, 2007, ISBN 0979585295
Based on four decades of hands-on experience, this book shows how, for political progressives, being right on the issues is less important than being the winner.
A campaign should concentrate their attention on two types of voters: persuadables, or swing voters, and mobilizables, supporters who need to be motivated to go to the polls. If a campaign can peel off the occasional GOP voter or two, that’s great, but do not spend a lot of time or money on it. A campaign needs to find, and address, people’s self interests: physical needs, need for structure, intellectual stimulation, control over your life, etc.
These days, it is tempting to base a campaign around new media, like blogs, Facebook and Twitter. Do not, for any reason, abandon old-fashioned Get Out the Vote methods, like phone banks, calling people several times during the campaign, and knocking on doors. People like to be asked for their vote.
All the effort in the world will be worthless if the candidate is boring or wishy-washy on the issues. People like to feel that the candidate is on their side, that they aren’t afraid to stick to their values, that they have vision and integrity, and that the candidate respects the voters. Next in importance after having a good candidate is having good organizers and a field operation that can cover the whole area (town, district, state).
It’s tempting to think that the election of President Obama, and the current unpopularity of the national Republican Party, makes this book not necessary or obsolete. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It’s easy, in relative terms, to win one election, whether on the local, state or national level. The hard part is to continue the day-to-day work to get voters to realize that Progressivism can become the dominant American political philosophy. Besides, the Republicans will not stay unpopular forever. They will be back, perhaps in 2010, perhaps in 2012, and Progressives cannot wait for them to return before they start fighting for the future of America. They should be doing everything possible to change the playing field, now.”
What’d this goon go to prison for?
Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."
That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?
Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.
Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.
Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.
TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393
So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."
HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.
I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.
Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim DunkinAnother Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right
Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal
To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right
OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH
Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy
Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)
ROFL!!
Incme tax evasion! oh the shock!!!!
SICK TWISTED FREAKS and the ILK.
Head exploding (blowing my mind GB said).
Dang.
Health Life—the ultimate pre-existing condition—is endangered by 0bama Deathcare.
Other forms of life—the presupposed greater good of the planet—are to be preserved in Cap ‘n Tax.
Cap ‘n Tax forms of life are better than human lives.
This is about killing off anyone deemed undesirable, non-union, non-government, ‘domestic terrorist’, and anyone who still salutes the flag.
the irony never ceases.........
the entire DC area, all 3 branches, is like a very bad SNL skit.....
Thanks for the synopsis, combat_boots.
LOL...its a ‘sick twisted’ fate I find myself in right now. Til 8 p.m. Blah...looking forward to learning of Glenn/Brietbarts latest ‘scoop.’
Congresswoman’s husband pleads guilty to two felonies
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-08-31-congresswoman-husband_x.htm
thanks
It’s just like the old Zappa tune “The Torture Never Stops!”
So what is the big hyped 5:00 report?
COMRADE! A dem free America, what a wonderful world that would be!
I’m gonna be sick.....
WE the people have become slaves to a corrupt gang of communist/marxist thugs...
Oh Man! Beck is just on fire tonight!
COMRADE!
I missed the beginning. We are losing streams right and left!
Finally got tvpc.
Lord Love Andrew Breitbart and Glenn himself!
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