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1 posted on 12/04/2009 10:28:18 PM PST by neverdem
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Just remember, the cheap stuff is from China. Heh, heh.

All the expensivo brands insist their magical process is the only kind that’ll actually get to where it’s needed and all others just go through you like poop through a goose...


2 posted on 12/04/2009 10:35:06 PM PST by sinanju
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To: neverdem

Then there are all those studies from the Medical/Industrial complex insisting that vitamins don’t do you any good anyway and may be harmful.

And that vitamins should only be available by prescription anyways.


3 posted on 12/04/2009 10:36:41 PM PST by sinanju
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It is the New York times where the reporter identifies himself as an idiot by saying this. “Yet, when it comes to vitamins — which I take only when I feel run down — “.

Right, vitamin pills, something that you take when you feel a little down, because we all know that a simple supplement of your everyday vitamins is like a Black Molly, it will get you going man! (sarcasm)


4 posted on 12/04/2009 10:38:47 PM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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ConsumerLab.com each month tests different supplements from manufacturers. It often finds a subset that did not pass each manufacturers’ own standards, or had something additionally tainting them.

A membership is around $25 a year, I think. I bought a two-year membership.

It’s money well-spent if you are concerned about getting your money’s worth with health supplements.


5 posted on 12/04/2009 10:39:12 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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WHEN I stock up on ibuprofen (my painkiller of choice), I typically buy a 500-count bottle of a store brand like Kirkland or Rite Aid. After all, ibuprofen is ibuprofen. Each pill costs me about 3 cents — or only one-third the cost of 9-cent Advil.

I still prefer Advil. Generic ibuprofen doesn't have the coating on the outside that makes Advil easier to swallow.

7 posted on 12/04/2009 10:47:28 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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GNC Mega Man Multi-Vitamins , 4 right before bed with 3 fingers of Myers Dark Rum (fights off the scurvy) ......:o)


8 posted on 12/04/2009 10:47:42 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Yeah don’t take vitamins. Only idiots take vitamins, and especially supplements. /s


9 posted on 12/04/2009 10:48:31 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: neverdem
Cheap vitamins are a waste of money.

Synthetic vitamins are developed in the lab from coal tar derivatives. Most of the food supplements sold today are synthetic, which are cheaper to make than natural vitamins.

Coal tar is produced by the destructive distillation of coal under very high temperatures. It may then be refined to produce Liquor Carbonis Detergens (LCD). Coal tar is also processed into many other products, such as lamp-black, for example, which is used to produce black dyes and inks.

Coal tar is a complex hydrocarbon with numerous chemical constituents, such as benzene, toluene, zylene, phenol, cresol, napthaline, anthracine, and pitch. The composition depends on the source of the coal supply and variables in the distillation process.

It pays to buy the best natural vitamins you can afford.

http://www.healthy-vitamins-rx.com/html/vitamins-synthetic-natural.html

10 posted on 12/04/2009 10:49:07 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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later read


12 posted on 12/04/2009 10:50:01 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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To: neverdem

The article mentions vitamin D. Should have said we need vitamin D3, not just plain ol D.


14 posted on 12/04/2009 10:58:57 PM PST by miele man
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18 posted on 12/04/2009 11:10:12 PM PST by LucyJo
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There are soem essential minerals and Vits that people might- and hte key word here is might... need IF and only IF they are low on them- Vitimin D dificiency causes problems, Vit B-12 dificiency can cause soem pretty nasty problems, especially in peopel who can’t absorb it in intestines who have itnestinal problems, and peopel with blood sugar problems might need to suppliment with chromium picolinate to help regulate both high and low blood sugar levels- however, the vast majority of people get all the vitimins andm inerals they need throuygh their diet- even if that diet isn’t exactly the healthiest in the world

The vitimin industry is a huge rip off for most people- and they know people are desperate for that ‘magic pill’ that ‘miracle cure’, and they play on people’s emotions in order to sell their products- but the fact is that most vitimins in excess are pissed out of the system, doign very little and infact, possibly doing harm to those with compromised immune systems or hormonal problems.

Vitimins and minerals and herbs are a very tricky business if you don’t know what you’re doing- people with overactive immune systems are playing with fire by taking immune boosting vits and mins, and people with hormonal problems or imbalances hear that so and so vit or min or herb is ‘good for so and so hormone ‘balance’ however, whiel that might be true, boosting one hormone level might trigger another hormone to go out of whack, and messign with hormones aint a good thing- it can really screw someone up, especially when you start ‘adjusting hormones’ by using hormone altering vits mins or herbs artificially

There are also several vitimins that when taken in excess can cause problems, and some, like Selenium, and Vitimin E, can actually accelorate the cancers they are purported to ‘help’ or ‘cure’ (some unscrupulous vitimin suppliers are still using ‘cure’ or hinting at ‘cures’, again, playing on people’s fear)

sinanju brings up a good point too- buying cheap vitimins- you never know how the actual active ingredients are made, what they are made from, or what the inert ingredients are- stuff from china in the past has proven to be very questionable, and even dangerous in certain items and goods- IF you are goign to buy vitimins mins or herbs, do so from reputable busiensses here i nthe states who aren’t goign to lie or scrimp or cut coerners because to do so 2ould ruin them

Puritan’s Pride company often has great sales- buy 2 get three free, buy one, get 2 free etc -worth checkign out for htose who need vits mins or herbs- they’ve been around a long time, very fast shipping, good service, etc, and are quite reputqable

Marie also brings up a very good point- only certain forms of vits and mins really do any good i nthe body- especially in people with problematic stomachs or intestines- which make it difficult to digest, absorb, or convert certain vits mins and herbs- Take B-12 for isntance, peopel with bowel problems can’t absorb B-12 in the form usually found in vitimins, but they can absorb more readily what B-12 converts into (B-12 Methylcobalmin)(sp?)

and another point, peopel with htigns liek Crohn’s disease often have vitimin malnutrition- however, adding vits willy nilly can be quite bad for the person, as they can leech calcium from bones, and increasing blood calcium, causing more frequent kidney stones which peopel with Crohn’s are susceptible to anyways (that’s why they need to be careful of meds that leech calcium from bones- like prednisone which is often prescrivbed for Crohn’s- But Vitimin D suppliments have also been known to increase kidney stone occurances too)

Bottom line- finetuning by suppliminenting is a risky busienss, and a confusing one- be careful, and do some homework- but try to get most of your nutrients out of good foods, and most people will be fine, perhaps only occasionally needign to add certain suppliments


20 posted on 12/04/2009 11:16:24 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: neverdem

I remember at one point taking vitamins.

They made my pee bright yellow, so I stopped taking them.

This represents the extent of my experience with the subject.


26 posted on 12/04/2009 11:30:43 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: neverdem

Vitamins, bah! Globull warming writ small, if you ask me! Spending money just to urinate richer, and there’s always a new need, a different approach, some modification, some new fad.


30 posted on 12/04/2009 11:44:35 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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Just eat more chocolate, you’ll be fine.


31 posted on 12/04/2009 11:45:45 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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FIND A REPUTABLE SOURCE Vitamins and minerals are commodity items, and every manufacturer has access to the same ingredients.

Buyer beware! Made in CHINA!

36 posted on 12/05/2009 12:12:28 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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Vitamin D May Be Tied to Heart Disease Via Genes
Finding could aid in eventual development of screening test, researcher says

Posted December 3, 2009

THURSDAY, Dec. 3 (HealthDay News) — New research points to the possibility of a genetic link between vitamin D and heart disease.

People with high blood pressure who had a gene variant that reduces vitamin D activation in the body were found to be twice as likely as those without the variant to have congestive heart failure, the study found.

http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/12/03/vitamin-d-may-be-tied-to-heart-disease-via-genes.html


37 posted on 12/05/2009 12:12:42 AM PST by kcvl
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Are you deficient in Vitamin D3?

Did you know that vitamin D3 deficiency can result in Obesity, Type 2 Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Depression, Psoriasis, Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Kidney Stones, Osteoporosis, & Neuro-degenerative disease including Alzheimer’s Disease. Eventually, Vitamin D deficiency may even lead to Cancer (especially breast, prostate, and colon cancers). Vitamin D3 is believed to play a role in controlling the immune system (possibly reducing one’s risk of cancer and autoimmune diseases), increasing neuro-muscular function and decreasing falls, improving mood, protecting the brain against toxic chemicals, and potentially reducing pain.

Vitamin D3 is both a vitamin and a hormone. It acts as a vitamin when it binds with calcium for proper absorption. Humans cannot digest calcium without adequate amounts of Vitamin D3.

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:E2w-OAR29uUJ:www.pamelaegan.com/articles/vitamin-d3.htm+vitamin+D3&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


41 posted on 12/05/2009 12:16:49 AM PST by kcvl
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I was reading a French history book from the 60s and the author was saying something about “those gum chewing, vitamin eating Americans”. Apparently Europeans aren’t into vitamins.


50 posted on 12/05/2009 6:20:42 AM PST by Yardstick
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My doc prescribed 50,000 units of Vitamin D, three days a week. I am glad the month is almost over and I hope it works. It’s nasty stuff.


54 posted on 12/05/2009 6:44:00 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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