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The Birther Madness (FreeRepublic mentioned)
The Claremont McKenna College Forum ^ | December 3, 2009 | Charlie Sprague

Posted on 12/03/2009 7:11:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Birther movement is convinced that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen and hence is constitutionally prohibited from being President.

Most Birthers claim that Obama was born in Kenya, while others think his birth occurred in Indonesia. Even though Obama has released a copy of his birth certificate showing that he was born on Oahu, these conspiracy theories continue to animate the fanatical right.

What is most surprising about these conspiracy theories is the number of relatively mainstream people willing to associate themselves with the Birthers or at least recognize the issue as a legitimate controversy. One of CNN’s many reasons for dumping Lou Dobbs was his repeated raising of Birther issues. More predictably, The Birthers have found audiences on conservative talk radio and conservative web sites such as Free Republic and WorldNetDaily. The number of people who have serious doubts that Obama was born in the United States is shockingly high. According to one poll, 28% of Republicans believe Obama was not born in the United States or are unsure. These numbers, however, ignore an important geographic disparity: doubt about Obama’s place of birth is far higher in the South than anywhere else in the country. In the South, only 47% of respondents said they believe Obama was born in the United States, with 30 % unsure and 23% convinced he’s foreign born.

Many Republican politicians find themselves in an uncomfortable position when it comes to Birther conspiracy theories. On the one hand, the Birther movement kills the Republicans’ credibility among the vast majority of the population and Republicans. At the same time, Rep. Mike Castle, a moderate Republican congressman from Delaware, was blindsided at a rally in July when a near-hysterical woman accused him of ignoring the “truth” that Obama was a citizen of Kenya. Wanting to pander to the fringe without becoming entirely discredited by the lunatics, many Republicans have opted to align themselves only tangentially with the Birther movement. For example, Republican congressman of John Campbell of California proposed a bill that would require presidential candidates to prove they are “natural-born citizens.” On MSNBC, Chris Matthews interviewed Campbell and repeatedly asked him if he believed Obama was a natural-born citizen. The extreme evasiveness of Campbell’s answers perfectly demonstrates his “wink-wink” strategy of secretly pandering to fringe elements of the conservative movement without having his reputation sullied by outright association.

As a final note to seniors still seeking employment, the Birthers are willing to throw down cash for investigations of Obama’s past. Neil Sankey, a former member of Scotland Yard, has been hired by Birthers to investigate Obama’s personal history. I know most CMC alums can’t match Sankey’s background, but perhaps “Topics in Forensic Science” has taught some desperate seniors enough to follow in the footsteps of Jonathan Ames.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Free Republic; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; freerepublic; kenyabelieveit; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; pds; politics; polls; stuffwarsmadeof
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Do we even know that CNN "dumped" Lou Dobbs, much less that it was for raising this issue?
1 posted on 12/03/2009 7:11:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: pissant; ExTexasRedhead; Sparko; trlambsr; True Republican Patriot; 3IDVET; STARWISE; Lumper20; ...
PING!
2 posted on 12/03/2009 7:13:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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The Birther movement is convinced that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen and hence is constitutionally prohibited from being President.

The only thing I'm convinced of is that Obozo isn't man enough to prove it.
3 posted on 12/03/2009 7:13:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Madness? Newspapers must have been mad.


4 posted on 12/03/2009 7:14:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: cripplecreek

Where do these people get their information

Pbama has never released a Birth Certificate, and he pays millions to see that he doesnt have to.

It isnt the Birthers who are crazy, It’s the ignorant followers of the Won.


5 posted on 12/03/2009 7:15:34 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Even though Obama has released a copy of his birth certificate...”

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Proven by insurmountable evidence that the copy on his webpage in June 2008 was a doctored (forged) image using a blank BC from another webpage.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 7:16:28 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do we even care what a bunch of liberal hatchings at a marxist endoctrination camp think?

I think not...LOL!


7 posted on 12/03/2009 7:17:44 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Red Steel

LOL the honolulu advertizer was pretty proud of their foreign boy done good till about 4 years later when they went into their archives and changed the story when questions arose.

That was the clumsiest attempt I’ve seen.


8 posted on 12/03/2009 7:17:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even though Obama has released a copy of his birth certificate showing that he was born on Oahu...

"There is none so blind as the man who will not see"


9 posted on 12/03/2009 7:18:03 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Birther movement is convinced that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen and hence is constitutionally prohibited from being President.

Well, it is difficult to imagine how a real, live American could possibly be so much the antithesis of America as is Prez Obama.

10 posted on 12/03/2009 7:18:07 PM PST by The Duke (Socialism is cool until somebody loses their paycheck.)
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To: HighWheeler

It really doesn’t matter what patch of dirt he was born on, his father was Kenyan. That alone disqualifies him from being “natural born”.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 7:19:53 PM PST by wastoute
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Claremont McKenna College Forum"

Pfffft!

12 posted on 12/03/2009 7:22:03 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The freaking libtards mischaracterize the true intent from the get-go:

“The Birther movement is convinced that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen”

This “birther” is convinced that the usurper has wilfully failed to produce, and has intentionally concealed from public view the birth certificate that was prepared in 1961 at or around the time of his birth.

Any speculation of what that document says is just that- speculation.

Produce the long form and let the chips fall where they may. I hate these a-holes mischaracterizing what these lawsuits are about and what is being sought through the judicial process.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 7:25:34 PM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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14 posted on 12/03/2009 7:26:05 PM PST by Zakeet (Main difference between Obozo and his dog Bo -- Bo has papers showing where he was born)
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The comments following the article bear some interesting scrutiny. I chuckled at the person who commented adversely against the “birthers”. He signed it “Someone who is not an insanely stupid jackass”

There are other comments now numbering 40 on the subject. Charlie does not exactly get away with his piece unscathed. Once again for Charlies sake, He seems to think a copy of the birth certificate has been shown- the rubber stamp on the back states that the document is a transcript or abstract.

The public has a right to know.

15 posted on 12/03/2009 7:29:28 PM PST by Peter Libra
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The number of people who have serious doubts that Obama was born in the United States is shockingly high.

I wonder if it's around the same amount of the "FRINGE" that are privy to the FACT that Obama is fighting tooth and nail (and spending a lot of money) to prevent discovery, in a court of law, of his "long form" birth certificate, and other vital records... records that he has CHOSEN to hide from concerned American citizens?

STE=Q

16 posted on 12/03/2009 7:30:23 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Venturer
It isnt the Birthers who are crazy

What's crazy is the most powerful person in the world refusing to show a simple birth certificate, especially when they are making decisions that put Americans in harm's way.

17 posted on 12/03/2009 7:30:43 PM PST by Starboard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Claremont McKenna College (CMC) is a private, coeducational, liberal arts college and a member of the Claremont Colleges located in Claremont, California

Just more Liberal blathering by Californicators.


18 posted on 12/03/2009 7:31:22 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t worry....

The lib media will eventually start reporting on this sometime after they get thrown under the bus....
and then get backed over...
and then run over again...
And then backed over again...

Oh well, The media is dead anyway.


19 posted on 12/03/2009 7:32:24 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: antidemoncrat
One of my officers in military intelligence was an alumni of that institution. He was a brilliant mathemtician that went on to become a professor at West Point.
20 posted on 12/03/2009 7:34:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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