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Posted on 12/03/2009 1:03:35 PM PST by neverdem
In the 10 days since we first blogged about “ClimateGate” — the unauthorized release of e-mails and other material from the Climate Research Unit (C.R.U.) at East Anglia University in Norwich, England — it’s become strikingly clear that one’s view of the issue is deeply colored by his or her incoming biases. No surprise there, but still, the demarcation is clear. One of the best indicators: when you stumble onto a blog post about the topic, you can tell which way the wind is blowing simply by looking at the banner ad at the top of the site: if it’s for an M.B.A. in Sustainable Business, you’re going to hear one thing about ClimateGate; if the ad shows Al Gore with a Pinocchio nose, meanwhile — well, you get the idea.
Those who feel that global warming is the most pressing issue of our era, a potential catastrophe that needs to be addressed by governments around the world as soon as possible, generally argue that ClimateGate is a tempest in a teapot — little more than the sort of academic infighting and nasty language you’d find by raiding any academic’s hard drive; that if the aggrieved climate scientists seemed to be stonewalling, it was out of aggravation with the disruptive tactics used by some global-warming skeptics who are probably funded by the oil industry; that the scientists who wrote potentially incriminating e-mails represent just a few of the thousands of scientists who have contributed to the global-warming literature; and that, if anything, climatologists need more support in the future to fight off skeptics’ attacks.
This camp wonders why there hasn’t been more outrage about the fact that the C.R.U. material was illegally obtained.
The other side, meanwhile, cries “Remember the Pentagon Papers!” while also positing that the C.R.U...
(Excerpt) Read more at freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com ...
CRU had been stonewalling Freedom of Information requests for their data.
3 videos are at the source: Jon Stewart excoriating Al Gore on Comedy Central, George Will v. Paul Krugman on ABC and Ed Begley Jr v. Stuart Varney on FOX News.
The NYT, continuing its own death spiral.
I’m going to
Strawberry fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry fields forever
The Climategate deniers continue to spin like Baghdada Bob.
Wait a minute now Whistleblowers that have stopped one of the biggest Ponzi Schemes in the history of the planet should be hailed as heros not castigated because they forced the truth out. I thought liberals were all about whistle blowing protections?
If Climate Change were settled science then why isn’t God playing along? Does Religion trump science now?
Al Gore should be up on charges and forced to give back the hundreds of millions of dollars he has bilked in the name of this faux climate change.
One Giant Lie. Climategate is about fraud, intimidation, organized crime, destruction of government documents, and embezzelment, you NYT scumbags.
I wonder, how did the NYTimes feel about the hacked Sarah Palin private email accounts? I can’t seem to remember.
...including Michael E. Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State and one of the scientists responsible for the now-famous “hockey stick” graph, which has been widely used as evidence of a dangerous global-warming trend.
Absolutely unbelievable! The Times brings up the hockey stick graph -- and fails to point out that the math and data behind it reveal it to be a massive fraud!
For this alone, the Times itself should be sued for fraud.
The most interesting aspect of this article is the comments section. Most of the comments are from reasonably intelligent people who are saying that AGW scientists have clearly perverted science for their own political purposes. Even the readers of the NYT are getting it. We were lied to.
Climate Change Criminal Conspiracy Continues
If articles like this do not speak to the crime behind it all, it is serving as a bracket of thought. Then they have the nerve to direct us to the characters of television, when there are scientist and people in the know that go unmentioned. I admit I only scanned.
I have printed out the 43-page PDF of Lord Monckton titled “Climategate: Caught Green-Handed” at http://www.scribd.com/doc/23450290/Monckton-Caught-Green-Handed-Climate-Gate-Scandal? I have not had time to read that yet so why should I read an entire article when I know it is about throwing up a roadblock to the summit thought that this is a criminal conspiracy that needs immediate prosecution?
If people don’t sound like Lord Monckton, I kind of think they are in on the criminal conspiracy, which is exactly the way I see the NYT, CBS, NBC, and ABC. This is what Lord Monkton sounds like:
Global Warming Hype” A Stink of Desperation”
Part 1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Qhm6YRdJE
Part 2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS4HrQ4CYZU
Part 3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoYhI5DosQs
Part 4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCnE6Heb_tE
Paer 5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUK90jwqWnQ
But the “elite worshippers” religiously trust that the elites were “doing the right thing”, and that such manipulations of data were necessary in order to accomplish higher goals.
This is what it will come down to, and no amount of presentation of facts and logic will change that.
Only some whistleblowers are labeled ‘hackers’ ... up is down, black is white etc. when it comes to watermelon whacko world.
Funny that algore has cancelled his trip to Copenhagen...
I wonder if we should be looking for him in Brazil next, along with his $400 million, and behind some Groucho Marx nose glasses.
One click. Two posts. No waiting.
Climatechange is important because it gives us a chance to show that governments are but instruments of the financial oligarchy that happens to also control the UN. I do not see how people are not pointing to the House of Representatives and asking how they came up with their draconian solution to a non-existant problem.
The problem is there is nobody to protect us from “Them,” with them being the same people that think that the prison terms in a mandatory health insurance bill is anywhere near constitional.
I don’t know how people cannot be screaming treason except that we the people are in deep fear of Them and their police state.
If the CCCC/CCCP doesn’t show treason, nothing will. Nobel Peace Prize and Academy Award- give me a break.
If anyone wants to know where I have written before all you have to do is search “We are ruled by treason.”
The comments after the article show the sceptics are more thoughtful than the NYT describes them in the article:
” I agree that the emails don’t discredit all the recent work paid for by the IPPC and NASA(with Billions of our tax dollars) to support the AGW hypothesis, BUT when you combine the emails with the data fabrications IT DOES!
Since ALL reports produced by 2500 IPPC ’scientists’ depend on four data sets, two ground based and two satellite based (calibrated to the ground data set), corrupting one of those ground based datasets clearly puts a large portion if not all their work into question.”
“This “released” file FOIA.zip (i find it odd that in over a week we still have no clue how the alleged “hacker” got into CRU this si something we normally find out in hours or days like with Plain’s e-mails) is over 90% data, code and analysis. The e-mails are quite literally the tip of the iceberg.
With sections of code titled ‘A very artificial correction’ when the tech heads get through all this code and data and that other shoe drops it wont be pretty for those in the media that have defended these scientists.”
“My biggest complaint? The fact that data forming the framework of their model was intentially destroyed along with efforts to rebuff freedom of information requests. This means scientists cannot analyze the basis for their models because they have been thrown away.
And second? If they truly did manipulate data, which Congress should investigate, it becomes a misuse of public funds and is a criminal act. This is not an issue around stolen e-mails, it is the facts layed out which has me very disturbed and questions regarding other funded studies going on”
“Don’t forget, though, that the “mess” poor Harry deals with in his epic “Read Me” is not a sophisticated super-computer-based climate prediction model. The CRU model was merely a calculation of the historical global temperature, based on thermometer readings.
Why was it so difficult to average a bunch of thermometers? The reason is that they are not evenly spead out around the globe and they may be located in cities which locally warmed up as they grew. A proper model will adjust for both of those facts, and as you can imagine, how you do the adjustments matters, especially when the whole result is to show that the earth warmed by less than a degree in 150 years.
Imagine a poll conducted every year that showed that support for a particular policy rose a few percent over 150 years. You’d really need to look at the raw data, the methods and the adjustments to know whether the final result is inside the margin of error of the poll.
That’s the information that Phil Jones refused to release, and that’s the data the world needs to see to determine if the warming they calculated is statistically significant or not.”
“The comment that “Everybody turns their knob, so they aren’t the outlier…” is perhaps the most worrying comment I have yet seen for what will remain. It sounds a lot like early 1970s vintage econometric models of entire economies. They had far too many parameters and far too much “knob turning”. Out of sample they collapsed.”
“I don’t think you have to be a climate change denier — and I’m not one — to be alarmed by what was going on at East Anglia University.
Discarding essential research data, shutting legitimate research out simply because it conflicts with your point of view, and cooking your numbers to ensure a desirable outcome are all appalling behaviors — particularly when committed by people who are supposed to be dedicated to integrity and objectivity.
And if that’s business as usual across academia, as some defenders may claim, that just makes it all the more alarming.”
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