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Evolutionists retreating from the arena of science
CMI ^ | December 1, 2009 | Dave Woetzel

Posted on 12/03/2009 8:35:52 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Evolutionists retreating from the arena of science

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Today, the Darwinian scientific consensus persists within almost every large university and governmental institution. But around the middle of the 20th century an interesting new trend emerged and has since become increasingly established. Evolutionary theorists have been forced, step by step, to steadily retreat from the evidence in the field. Some of the evidences mentioned earlier in this article were demonstrated to be frauds and hoaxes. Other discoveries have been a blow to the straightforward expectations and predictions of evolutionists. Increasingly, they have been forced to tack ad hoc mechanisms onto Darwin’s theory to accomodate the evidence. Their retreat to unfalsifiable positions is now evident in every arena where they once triumphed. Let us examine how Darwinian theorists have moved from concrete predictions and scientifically observable supporting evidences to metaphysical positions in several key fields of research...

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To: demshateGod
It took sovereign grace to cause me to believe or I’d be just like them.

I WAS just like them.

Been there, done that. Never got the shirt, or anything else worth having either.

121 posted on 12/03/2009 1:15:22 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xcamel

You’re question indicated you already knew what I believed and wanted to verify it. I’m not that stupid, you’re trying to set up a straw-man. What if I say yes?


122 posted on 12/03/2009 1:16:05 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: xcamel

So camel, I’m curious - do you think the Bible is relevant at all or just some historical clap-trap that means nothing?


123 posted on 12/03/2009 1:16:14 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: xcamel

What if I say no?


124 posted on 12/03/2009 1:16:45 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: xcamel

God told Abraham that his seed would be like as the sand of the sea. That’s clearly symbolism, or just an example. I’m not afraid of that.


125 posted on 12/03/2009 1:19:48 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: editor-surveyor

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=154

Nobody knows for sure but they can’t say it isn’t.


126 posted on 12/03/2009 1:23:29 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: scottdeus12

The Bible is absolutely relevant. Genesis is just not a historical document.

Do you think really think Methuselah lived nine hundred and sixty-nine years?


127 posted on 12/03/2009 1:24:44 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Now you’re just plain lying. Either that or you simply consider yourself too important to read the comments of the great astronomers. Try Hoyle to start with, and get your eyes opened.


128 posted on 12/03/2009 1:24:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: allmendream; Elsie

A post about Elsie is an answer to the question?


129 posted on 12/03/2009 1:25:14 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: demshateGod

It’s a bit hard to follow all your spinning, but I guess you feel you have some special “god mind” to determine what is literal, and what is not, eh?


130 posted on 12/03/2009 1:27:33 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel
“So.. tell us all if you also believe that a seven headed beast with 10 horns will rise from the ocean to destroy the earth... It is ‘literal’ after all.... isn’t it?”

I did answer and clearly, it is not a literal beast. And why would anyone take John's vision of it as such?

131 posted on 12/03/2009 1:28:06 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: xcamel

Where have I written anything like that?


132 posted on 12/03/2009 1:29:00 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: xcamel; scottdeus12
Genesis is just not a historical document.

Egypt never existed? The cities on the plain, Sodom and Gommorah, which archaeologists have found ruins for never existed?

Abraham, Issac, and Jacob never existed?

Ur of the Chaldeans never existed?

None of those things are historical or accurate?

You've just relegated the most important aspects of Jewish history to the dustbin.

133 posted on 12/03/2009 1:31:46 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Now you’re a liar, and a dissembling crackpot.

You conveniently leave out the word “observable” from your musings?


134 posted on 12/03/2009 1:32:59 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel; demshateGod; scottdeus12
It’s a bit hard to follow all your spinning, but I guess you feel you have some special “god mind” to determine what is literal, and what is not, eh?

You mean like you're doing? Like you did in post 127 where you declared that Genesis is not a historical document?

135 posted on 12/03/2009 1:33:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xcamel

But since you mention it.
1Cr 2:14-16 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.


136 posted on 12/03/2009 1:34:13 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: metmom
Splitting hairs eh? OK..

The Pre-flood mythology of Genesis is just not a historical document.

137 posted on 12/03/2009 1:36:28 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: metmom

That article is essentially useless, since it ascribes to the “big bang” nonsense of an unbounded universe. God’s word clearly states that the universe is bounded (by the waters above the firmament).

The assumption of an unbounded universe is what sends the idiots looking for non-existant crap like ‘dark’ matter and energy. The “Starlight and Time” essays demolish that nonsense throughly.


138 posted on 12/03/2009 1:36:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Evolutionary theorists have been forced, step by step, to steadily retreat from the evidence in the field."

Do you really want to associate yourself with this and expect any sane person to take you seriously?

Aside from unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence from Dave Woetzel, a nut-job whose hobby is trying to prove dinosaurs and humans coexisted you have no evidence that this is true. In fact it is an outrageous lie.

139 posted on 12/03/2009 1:37:03 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: xcamel

You’re useless. You can’t grasp even the simplest things, and attack those that do. Waste of time communicating with the willfully ignorant.

Your spiritual eyes are blind, and ears deaf. If you want to know, its there to know.


140 posted on 12/03/2009 1:40:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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