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The Case for Jeb Bush Entering the 2012 Race (massive barf alert)
Race42012 ^ | 2009-12-01

Posted on 12/01/2009 8:51:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Jeb Bush is unique in that he is both unknown and known. He can certainly win a GOP primary, and can raise the money to compete with frontrunners Palin and Romney. I think Jeb will be getting more involved over the next several months, starting with the Florida senate primary. I also think Cheney is a Jeb proxy, and that his attacks are meant to undermine Obama while moving the country back into the Bush/Cheney policy direction, awaiting a new leader to take the torch from the former Vice President. Remember, Cheney earlier this year, unprompted, suggested he would support Jeb Bush for president in 2012. Considering that there are significant people in the party harping about a Cheney run, as well as a media fascination with such a run, coupled with the realty that a 71 year old with a bad heart simply will not run, opens the door to Jeb Bush taking up the mantle in 2012. Bush would fill that media desire to clash Obama with Cheney, only enhancing it.

With Huckabee and Palin potentially sitting out in 2012, there is a huge opening for someone to take up the anti-Romney position. Bush, with his vast network of connections, his organizing potential, and the generation of political chits collected by the Bush family, puts Jeb in as good a position as a Pawlenty or a Daniels to make a bid and challenge Romney. Now if Palin runs, and the field fills up, then Jeb will likely wait until 2016, or simply stay out of public life and let his son, George P. Bush (nicknamed 47 by the family) take up the presidential legacy down the line.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; bush; bush2012; bushdynasty; bushfamily; jebbush; rino; romneyreplacement
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To: Windflier

I can only hope. But my political calculus machine puts Sara at < 20% chance.

I pray she proves me wrong — I look for the tipping point that obama got when Kennedy endorsed him (my take is that is when he began his slide into the presidency).

But if need be, I will vote against Communism ad Socialism, even if it isn’t perfect, as opposed to many here who would elect Stalin if his (ostensibly Conservative) opponent wasn’t Pure.


61 posted on 12/01/2009 9:50:32 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

Mike Pence (as I remember) spearheaded that GREAT Republican “sit-in” back a couple years ago, when the dems were ready to run off to “vacation”.....without voting on..was it amnesty???

I’m gettin’ old and can’t keep up with the daily assault on us by this administration and Bush’s attack on us via amnesty a couple of summers back...

Mike Pence and many other Republicans stood their ground in CONGRESS, while the dems grabbed their water-wings and ran off to vacation—the Republicans gained a great deal of respect that week, as I remember it.

Mike Pence MAY have made a name for himself, then...but no one seems to remember it.....GAD!

Keep him in mind....and research him...he may not be “soiled” yet.


62 posted on 12/01/2009 9:50:36 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: rabscuttle385

Please please please NOT ANOTHER RINO!


63 posted on 12/01/2009 9:50:39 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Windflier

All I know is what I have seen, and what I have seen is a woman who would wrestle a bear that threatens her child. There’s a lot of Irish there. Like another Irishman—Andy Jackson.


64 posted on 12/01/2009 9:50:42 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: rabscuttle385
I also think Cheney is a Jeb proxy, and that his attacks are meant to undermine Obama while moving the country back into the Bush/Cheney policy direction

No. I like Jeb, or did, but no.

We've had too many would-be presidents who look at it as a position, and another entry on their resume.

If you want to be president, you don't send out your proxies while you fine-tune your opinions and polish your suntan and try to stay out of the line of fire. Not this time. If you want to lead, lead. Get into the fight, not in 2011, but now while it can still make a difference, while we're trying to stop this runaway trainwreck.

If you can't fight now, then I won't trust you to fight once you're safely in the White House. We've had too many compromises and bipartisan giveaways, and I won't believe anyone is committed to principle who can't be bothered to stand up and be counted, now.

If you're not on the short list of people who came out to fight when we were trying to stop the health takeover, and the car company takeover, and the bank takeover, and energy industry takeover, and the communications industry takeover, if none of this was important enough for you to come out and show your face, then don't bother to come knocking come primary season. I'll have made up my mind long before then.

65 posted on 12/01/2009 9:51:26 PM PST by marron
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To: freedumb2003

I kinda like this fellow: http://www.bobmcdonnell.com/


66 posted on 12/01/2009 9:53:11 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Arkinsaw
As long as the party is lukewarm...I will continue to spit it out.

You confuse vetting with the final result. Once you have done all you can to ensure a True Conservative as the candidate, then it is time to put on your big boy pants and do what makes sense, not what makes your n^ts warm. This is what is Grown Ups call "compromise."

As I said, your vote for obama worked out exactly as you wanted. What more could you possibly want?

67 posted on 12/01/2009 9:53:57 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Mortrey

Thanks — from small seeds do mighty oaks spring.

I’ll do my work and, if he is the real deal, I’ll work to make him the Conservative obama (as it were).


68 posted on 12/01/2009 9:55:17 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
Nope -- obama got it. How's that hope and change working for you? Or your kids, grandkids and great-grandkids? How about the troops that are left dangling in Afghanistan? You proud of your decision to strand them and embolden our enemies?

Thanks again -- and when they come to take your gun just like they are taxing your right to exist, just keep repeating to yourself "I am the customer and I am always right."


You can wail and cry all you want. I hope it makes you feel special. But you're still not getting me to vote for weasels. No matter how much you cry and scream and name-call and blame your weasels are not going to get that vote. I am not alone.

So you and the Republican Party. If you really feel that strongly about saving the country.......don't nominate weasels.

Or you can cry and call names if that makes you feel better.
69 posted on 12/01/2009 9:55:41 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: rabscuttle385
I don't care if he's the most wonderful conservative ever.

I've had enough of the Bush dynasty.

NO MORE.

70 posted on 12/01/2009 9:56:45 PM PST by DB
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To: freedumb2003
You confuse vetting with the final result. Once you have done all you can to ensure a True Conservative as the candidate, then it is time to put on your big boy pants and do what makes sense, not what makes your n^ts warm. This is what is Grown Ups call "compromise."

As I said, your vote for obama worked out exactly as you wanted. What more could you possibly want?


Sorry. If they want my vote, they will nominate a candidate from the Ronald Reagan mold. That's all it takes. Easy-peasy. Other than that you are doing no good.
71 posted on 12/01/2009 9:57:32 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
. I am not alone.

No you aren't. You and 55.5 million others voted obama into office. You should be doing your victory dance.

72 posted on 12/01/2009 9:58:04 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

I am thinking of the eastern Establishment that has dominated the country since the Civil War. In 1870, the State of New York alone had more wealth than the whole former Confederacy.


73 posted on 12/01/2009 9:59:10 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Arkinsaw
Sorry. If they want my vote, they will nominate a candidate from the Ronald Reagan mold. That's all it takes. Easy-peasy. Other than that you are doing no good.

If not, there is always a Communist to vote for, like you did last time. Easy-peasy indeed.

It is like "zero tolerance" rules -- zero thinking.

74 posted on 12/01/2009 9:59:46 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: RobbyS

Jebs not a bad conservative. But I agree with previous posters, our party and country took a beating from his brother. After that dufus, we just can’t make anymore bumper stickers with that name on them.


75 posted on 12/01/2009 10:00:23 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: freedumb2003
No you aren't. You and 55.5 million others voted obama into office. You should be doing your victory dance.

Well, you can keep doing the same thing that lost last time, and then cry about it. Or you can try to peel off a few percentage more by being actual Republicans.

John McCain was the media's favorite darlin' because he sold out to gain their mavericky favor. But as soon as he was nominated he couldn't buy a friend in the media because he's a Republican. That didn't work did it.

John McCain "compromised" a lot so that he would appeal to the middle. But the middle came up 55 million votes short. That didn't work did it.

Maybe it will sink in at some point.
76 posted on 12/01/2009 10:02:32 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: freedumb2003
I can only hope. But my political calculus machine puts Sara at < 20% chance.

I pray she proves me wrong

FD, you seem very sincere about your hope for a conservative leader who can unseat Obama. I really do think you mean it, and aren't just shilling for your favorite dark horse candidate.

That being said, it seems to me that you may be paying more attention to what media pundits and professional politicos are saying, rather than taking the pulse of the people.

There is a pulse of electricity flowing through the center-right electorate now that hasn't been seen in most of our lives. Sarah Palin is the powerhouse that is pumping that voltage through our hearts and minds.

She is being attacked on an unprecedented scale by the left and the RINO establishment because she is their greatest threat, and is the one person they fear above all others.

That alone should inform you of just how important this one person is to our nation's future.

77 posted on 12/01/2009 10:02:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RobbyS
I am thinking of the eastern Establishment that has dominated the country since the Civil War. In 1870, the State of New York alone had more wealth than the whole former Confederacy.

As I have said over and over on this thread -- we have to deal with the system we have, not the one we want. If we could get JR nominated or draft Rush or Sean, well and good. In the absence of that, we have to mold the candidate selection processes to our will as much as we can, then LIVE WITH THE RESULT. And adjust our sights and goals accordingly.

78 posted on 12/01/2009 10:02:52 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: rabscuttle385
Nooo... Friggin'... Way....

No more Bushes, no more Clintons.

79 posted on 12/01/2009 10:03:50 PM PST by MCH
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To: Arkinsaw

>>Maybe it will sink in at some point.<<

When Health Care “reform” passes and costs you every paycheck (and kneecaps Medicare) AND when obama signs away our sovereignty at Copenhagen, it should be YOU who lets it sink in. Let it sink in nice and slow.

It ain’t cryin’ — it is pointing out that you and your ilk gave us this commie and you are responsible for all he does.


80 posted on 12/01/2009 10:05:35 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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