Posted on 11/30/2009 4:37:54 AM PST by tobyhill
Dumping data and “scientist” are incompatible. So which is it?
You realize that raw data collected over long periods, eg. a hundred years or so, is "adjusted" for many things: changes in measurement technology, accuracy, precision; changes in land use; changes in local population; etc.
One of the (many) knee-slappers about so-called man-caused Global Warming or Climate Change is that these "adjustments" to the data are larger than the supposed trends caused by man. Not just larger, sometimes significantly larger, even an order of magnitude larger. So by taking a different SWAG at what the values for these "adjustments" should be, you can have your data show man is causing anything you want - increasing or decreasing the rate of natural temperature change.
Without the raw data, we have no idea just what these adjustments were. Even with the adjustments, there's no guarantee they are the right values.
Political activists with a human slavery agenda masquerading as scientists.
Computer hackers have obtained 160 megabytes of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in England. These e-mails, which have now been confirmed as real, involved many researchers across the globe with ideologically similar advocates around the world. They were brazenly discussing the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global warming claims. The academics here also worked closely with the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and Professor Michael Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny.
Among his e-mails, Professor Jones talks to Professor Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series...to hide the decline [in temperature]."..."
Another professor at the Climate Research Unit, Tim Osborn, discusses in e-mails how truncating a data series can hide a cooling trend that would otherwise be seen in the results. Professor Mann sent Professor Osborn an e-mail saying that the results he is sending shouldn't be shown to others because the results support critics of global warming. Time after time the discussions refer to hiding or destroying data. ..."
Lots more at link...
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Of course the Establishmedia is silent, they’re just as guilty pushing this fraud.
Pray for America’s Freedom
I guess this sort of thing isn't important any more.
NUMP bump!
I've read that, at alumni "prompting," Penn State is starting an investigation of Mann. I don't know Penn State or anyone there (either personally or even by reputation), so I don't know how honest and objective the investigation will be. Anyone have any inside info?
From the transcript (final paragraph):
President Obama: "But the journey is long and the journey is hard. And we don't have much time left to make that journey. It's a journey that will require each of us to persevere through setbacks, and fight for every inch of progress, even when it comes in fits and starts. So let us begin. For if we are flexible and pragmatic, if we can resolve to work tirelessly in common effort, then we will achieve our common purpose: a world that is safer, cleaner, and healthier than the one we found; and a future that is worthy of our children."
Obama makes U.N. debut on global warming (text, video here):
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/obama-makes-un-debut-on-global-warming-text-video-here.html
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From GreenLeft.org
VENEZUELA: Chavez calls for global offensive for socialism
August 31, 2005
excerpts...
"The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet."
"I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don't think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, 'tomorrow could be too late, let's do now what we need to do'."
"I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet."
--Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/640/640p16.htm
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Obama's "Climate Czar" is on the same page with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro...
From The Washington Times, January 12, 2009
Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees 'global governance' as solution
by Stephen Dinan
Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.
By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available.
lots more...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
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Here's a link to an image of a Google cache of the Socialist International's webpage that originally included Obama's "Climate Czar" Carol Browner. It was found by FReeper, Publius6961:
http://24ahead.com/images/si-csws-cache-as-of-011009.jpg
James Hansen (quote), from October 2004:
"Several years ago I received the Heinz Environment Award. I don't know who nominated me for that award or how the selection works."
"I am confident that it has no impact on my evaluation of the climate problem or on my political leanings."
"In the upcoming election I will vote for John Kerry."
Source: Columbia University.edu [pdf]:
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/dai_complete.pdf
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Also see: Teresa Heinz Kerry: Bag Lady for the Radical Left:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12187
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NASA's Hansen Mentioned in [George] Soros Foundation's Annual Report:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/26/nasa-s-hansen-mentioned-soros-foundations-annual-report
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"Hansen is best known for his research in the field of climatology, his testimony on climate change to congressional committees in 1988 that helped raise broad awareness of global warming, and his advocacy of action to limit the impacts of climate change."
The science is settled. Don’t need the data now.
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
I guess they don't have the capability to scan the documents and store them on CDs, DVDs or other electronic storage devices. < /sarc>
My favorite quip about the whole thing was in a thread where someone referenced that the programmer was stymied as to why a sum of the squares total was coming out a negative number...
Someone posted - perhaps because he was working with imaginary numbers!
Love a subject where people joke about i.
LOL
Mark Steyn said it best when he referenced Mann-made Global Warming.
As The Church Lady used to say: “My, my my...isn’t that convEEEEEnient!
Gee, when you destroy the raw data, it leaves the door open for honest people to conclude that fraud must be involved.
Paging James Hansen . . . Mr. James “the sky is falling” Hansen, please go to the white phone for a message from Al Gore.
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