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Former Obama Organizer Threatens to 'Out' Catholic Priests (to repudiate Catholic teaching)
CNS News ^ | November 24, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on 11/24/2009 10:09:43 AM PST by NYer


FILE- Archbishop of Washington Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl walks with United States Chief Justice John Roberts after the Red Mass at Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle, in Washington, Sunday, Oct. 4, 2009. (AP photo)

(CNSNews.com) – A longtime Washington, D.C., liberal Internet activist has founded a Web site that he says will collect accounts of homosexuals in the Catholic priesthood--accounts he will use to “encourage” them to change their views on homosexual marriage and other issues.

“Outing” the priests--publicly revealing their homosexuality--is “not off the table,” Phil Attey, founder of the Web site ChurchOuting.com, told CNSNews.com. The site will also collect information on straight priests who have broken their vow of celibacy, using the information to “encourage” those priests to go against their Church’s teachings on homosexuality as well.

“This is a campaign to collect information about closeted gay Catholic priests, as well as heterosexual Catholic priests who secretly engage in romantic or sexual affairs, yet are unwilling to speak out against the church leadership's anti-gay political campaigns,” the Web site says. 

Attey, a former Obama campaign organizer and Internet organizing pioneer, said the goal of his site was not to “out” the priests, but to end what he called the “spiritual abuse” inflicted by Catholic priests who teach against homosexual marriage and the homosexual lifestyle.

“The goal of this site is not to out priests,” Attey said. “It’s to end the cycle of spiritual abuse that has gone on for generations within the Catholic Church, demonizing what it is to be gay. Closeted gay priests spiritually abusing young gay kids and giving them the alternative of going into the clergy and into the priesthood.”

Priests who refuse to come out after being confronted may be publicly exposed, according to Attey.

“We’re not taking that option off the table,” he said.

Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, strongly condemned the plan.

“There’s a word for this--it’s ‘fascism.’ They’re just out to publicly destroy people,” Donahue told CNSNews.com.

“Are they going to start harassing, intimidating, stalking priests?” Donahue asked. “This is a religious cleansing; this is a witch hunt. This is simply beyond the pale.”

Focusing on Washington Archdiocese
 
Attey’s campaign is focused on the Washington, D.C., archdiocese, where Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl, who has spoken out against the D.C. City Council’s move to recognize gay marriage.

“For the archdiocese and Catholic Charities, two core tenets of our faith are at the heart of our concerns: our understanding of the nature of marriage and our commitment to expressing Christ’s love through service to others,” Wuerl wrote in a Nov. 17 Washington Post op-ed.

“Under the legislative language before the D.C. Council, the archdiocese would be forced to choose between these two principles. The archdiocese has long made clear that all people have equal dignity, regardless of sexual orientation. But marriage is reserved for husband and wife because of its essential connection with the creation of children.”

Wuerl noted that if the D.C. City Council moves to redefine marriage to include homosexuals his church may not be able to continue partnering with the city on other charitable projects, such as feeding the homeless.
 
“(T)he District requires Catholic Charities to certify its compliance with city laws when applying for contracts and grants. This includes contracts for homeless services, mental health services, foster care and more. Since Catholic Charities cannot comply with city mandates to recognize and promote same-sex marriages, the city would withhold contracts and licenses,” Wuerl explained.

According to Attey, homosexual and non-celibate heterosexual priests who support these and other positions of the Washington archdiocese are “hypocrites,” whom his Web site would work to bring out of the “closet.”
 
“The dream of this site is to collect enough stories about enough priests so that we can go to them and say ‘Listen, this Web site has collected enough stories about enough of you in the archdiocese to where the archbishop can’t seek retribution against you or retaliate against you if you all come out at once. And if you do that there aren’t going to be any stories floated about you (to media outlets.)’ ” 

After that, where a homosexual or non-celibate priest stands on gay issues is up to him, Attey explained, saying he doesn’t care so long as “everyone knows the priest is gay.”

“Where they stand on LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender) issues after that is totally fine with me. If they want to be an openly-gay priest standing up as an openly-gay person standing up in front of their parish supporting whatever ideology the Catholic Church wants them to support, that’s fine.”

Attey said he will use “rigorous scrutiny” in investigating any tip he receives about a potentially gay priest, pointing out that people who wish to leave tips on his web site cannot remain anonymous and must be able to provide the names of other witnesses that can corroborate the stories.

“No report is allowed to be anonymous, they have to give us their names (and) their e-mail address at least. We send them an e-mail, if it all seems credible, and we ask them if we can speak with them about it. At which point I ask them to write it out in the form of a narrative and sign it.

“I’m specifically looking for situational or logistical information around their story: where it took place, any other individuals involved, dates, and times, so that we can start looking into (it.) After we’ve verified it through two or three different sources then I think it’s fair to say that it’s a credible story.

“No name would ever be released unless it goes through that rigorous scrutiny,” he said. 

Attey said that he will use the accounts to “encourage” gay and non-celibate priests to come out publicly and turn against the Church’s teachings on homosexuality.

“We’re going to encourage them to change,” Attey explained. “This is a much bigger issue within the Catholic Church--rectifying the hypocrisy of their stands on LGBT people, not just civil equality.”

Priests who might face public exposure, he said, would be either high profile priests or more junior clergy who were outspoken proponents of the Church’s teachings on gay issues.

Attey said that high profile priests would receive a visit first, to let them know that they were going to be exposed whether they cooperated or not.

“We’d go to him first and we’d explain to him that we’re about to do this and then we’d probably do it whether he was willing to come out on his own or not.”

Priests who strongly support the Church’s teaching may also be exposed, depending on how outspoken they are.

“It also depends upon how heavy handed the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is and a particular bishop or archbishop is on making them follow through on the agenda of the USCCB. 

“If that priest is allowing his Church to disseminate the pastoral letter condemning homosexuality again and or using their collection plate to fund anti-gay initiatives well that’s another marker--I’m not taking it off (the table.) We’re going to analyze what’s going on within that parish and the behavior of that particular priest to decide whether or not at the end if they’re not willing to come out on their own we’re going to need to intervene.”

Donahue thinks the tactic is so heinous that even some homosexual leaders probably oppose it. 

“It’s borderline blackmail, at the very least, if not rank blackmail as one could maintain,” Donahue said. “Even if one disagrees with the archbishop in Washington in terms of what he’s doing, these kinds of tactics are obviously so incredibly monstrous and odious that it would seem to beg a response from gay leaders.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: attey; bocampaignorganizer; campaignorganizer; catholic; catholicpriests; catholics; democrat; democrats; homosexualagenda; homosexualpriests; homosexuals; impeachobama; obama; philattey; ussa; wuerl
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To: NYer

I have always thought the problem with homosexuals in the Catholic church as an attack from within.
One way to destroy something is from within.


81 posted on 11/25/2009 7:21:21 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: ElPatriota
There were very few priests who actually abused their position and molested anyone. The MSM made it sound like MOST priests were like that, and in the process turned many faithful Catholics against the Church, which was their intention all along. There were as many, if not more, instances of sexual abuse of minors in other religious groups, as well as among school teachers, but folks wouldn't know it, because not as much ink was spilled on those stories.

People in the Archdiocese of Boston had been aware of the three priests who were the most prominent in the scandal that erupted, but it's instructive to know that it wasn't until just before the Supreme Judicial Court sent down it's edict forcing homosexual marriage on the state, that it became a big news story. Those who knew the Church would be a major force in opposition to homosexual marriage pushed the story in the media in order to reduce the effectiveness of any opposition by the Catholic Church, and sadly, it worked.

Even before the story broke, Cardinal Law had begun the process to screen seminarians, and volunteers in Parishes, so that this wouldn't happen again. Those measures were already in place when all this hit the fan, and Cardinal Sean O'Malley just followed through on those rules, when he took over the Archdiocese. Most instances you hear about today, happened many years ago, but the victims are only now speaking out. And sadly, a good number of those new accusations are false, from folks who just want to get some quick money.

82 posted on 11/25/2009 7:45:27 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: tiki; ElPatriota
They didn’t ignore them, on the advice of psychiatrists, they tried to heal them.

I always thought it was interesting that the Church was castigated for 'not doing anything', when they DID. It's just that pedophiles and sexual abusers cannot be 'healed', even though the psychiatrists and psychologists TOLD the Dioceses that these priests WERE healed. Why were these medical folks never called to account for their part in all this? I never heard ONE person in the media say anything negative about the counseling community's role. All the blame went on the Dioceses for returning these men to their positions in Parishes, even though they'd be told that it was OK to do so.

83 posted on 11/25/2009 7:50:58 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

You know what, we’d have to sue the universities who gave them their educations too. At that time people really thought that psychiatrists could actually make people well. We now know that psychiatry alone can’t heal anything. It was back when liberalism was growing and accepted, that if you just treated people nice they wouldn’t rob you or kill you.

It was about the same time that the liberalism that is choking our nation was touting self-esteem, w/o accomplishment, of course. “You’re okay, I’m okay”, “The devil made me do it”. No accountability, it was always some mean entity’s fault if you messed up and personal sin was always someone else’s fault. Victims were made and then celebrated as if they had actually accomplished something by pointing a finger. Personal responsibility and intiative were considered selfish.

Argh! I could go on, but you’re on FR, you already know.


84 posted on 11/25/2009 8:42:31 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: tiki
It was about the same time that the liberalism that is choking our nation was touting self-esteem, w/o accomplishment, of course. “You’re okay, I’m okay”, “The devil made me do it”. No accountability, it was always some mean entity’s fault if you messed up and personal sin was always someone else’s fault.

I just finished reading David Horowitz's book, "Radical Son", and his contention is that the liberal radicals just never grew up, they always act like adolescents who blame their failings on someone else.

85 posted on 11/25/2009 9:20:10 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Nosterrex
I do not agree. For instance, if an organization accused me of being a homosexual, I would sue them for every cent that it had. In talking about the real world, how many people do you think believe that nearly ALL priests are pedophiles and/or homosexuals? The way that I see it, the Roman Catholic Church has nothing to lose.

Slander doesn't just wipe off, even if you theoretically win a lawsuit. It's still "there", which is why it's such an insidious mortal sin. It violates the commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Murder".

So, how many innocent priests are you willing to sacrifice to drive out the homosexuals? I don't disagree with keeping them out of the priesthood, I do disagree strongly with this "expedient" method that will undoubtedly harm the innocent.

And yes, the Church has everything to lose: every good priest that fears they will be the next innocent victim of vicious slander will suffer, and every good candidate for the priesthood will rightfully rethink their decision if it becomes apparent the Church will not defend their own.

86 posted on 11/25/2009 3:22:41 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: SuziQ

I have never figured out why the parents of kids molested by these pervs never went to the police.


87 posted on 11/25/2009 4:33:30 PM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: Rutles4Ever

I do not see it the way that you do. If you do what is right, you have nothing to fear. Maybe I am missing something, but I have a difficult time believing that any priest that is not a practicing homosexual would be afraid of being falsely accused. Part of being a Christian is knowing that you have a chance of being falsely accused as Jesus warned. It comes with the territory. Those that are seeking to “expose” homosexual priests are doing this out of hatred for the Church. It is to their shame, and they will answer for it on the last day.


88 posted on 11/25/2009 4:47:22 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

A priest that is not a practicing homosexual has everything to be afraid of with a media that is ready to devour and destroy the Church and her priests at any cost. How can you not see that? The Church is probaby more hated by the media than Sarah Palin, and they gleefully destroyed her children.

If the MSM won’t bother to fact-check Obama’s own autobiographical manifestos, what makes you think they’ll “get to the bottom” of a priest “outing” to make sure it’s legit?

It’s already “strike three” on good priests. You want them to get bludgeoned with a bat on the way back to the dugout, just in case someone in the front row thinks they’re homosexual.


89 posted on 11/25/2009 5:05:12 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I believe that the Church and the priesthood are far stronger than you do. If the Church starts fearing what the world says or does, she is in big trouble. All these attacks will fail. Neither the Church nor the priesthood is going to be destroyed by outside forces. Frankly, the Christian Church has far more serious problems than some group trying to expose or “out” priests.


90 posted on 11/25/2009 5:18:12 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: DMG2FUN
I have never figured out why the parents of kids molested by these pervs never went to the police.

In most cases, they didn't want their kids to have to testify. That's why, several times, when the problems finally came to light, the statute of limitations had run out, and the priests couldn't be prosecuted. That made people REALLY angry, but that was the law.

91 posted on 11/25/2009 9:46:10 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: DMG2FUN
God forgive me... but if there is something that makes my blood "boil" is when I keep hearing the same crap over and over, of people who try to give this criminal priests cover.

Look, I have read at least 7 books on the sexual abuses. I will recommend one you should read if nothing else. Notice they cost less than $1.00 if you buy them "like new" or "used." I don't think I paid more than $3 per book, including shipping! BETRAYAL (You can actually read some pages of the book itself. Very interesting and you will learn a lot!

Do you want more titles? THERE IS PLENTY!

Read a bunch of them and then will get an idea of who is telling the truth.

But let me give you a hint from BETRAYAL: The Pedophile priests were careful in choosing people who were poor without the resources or the knowledge to do something about it when they found out what they were doing to a chil. Some of these criminals, would come into the houses of kids where there was no father... and little by little - like snakes - moving slowly... would get the confidence of the mother (or parents) and strike at the opportune time! yes... now... imagine the CONFUSION of the kids... here was this man, a "nice" man, a PRIEST everyone respected and trusted and he was doing these "things" to them... They did not even know if "these things" were good or bad... some of them were CHILDREN! for God's sake. When they finally realized there was something weird about "those things," now they had convince their parents!... and this was not an easy task, many parents thought the kids were lying. THEN - and here come the worst part- if they were able to convince the parents and they finally mustered the courage to face the priest or the Bishop (the big guys), then, in many cases, the "bishop" or someone in the "organization" tried buying their silence with the understanding they would have to keep their mouths shut!... And in some cases, when this did not work, the church would actually threatened the family by using the FULL FORCE of the church (lawyers, etc) against them. So it was the word of a peasant vs. the word of the mighty "HOLLY CHURCH." Furthermore, in Boston, since many of the positions of power (academia, police) and held by the Irish, then even going to the police was risky and they would eventually look the other way. It took these reporters to BLOW IT ALL UP... until finally they brought them to their knees and the rest is history as they say.

Some here would try you make you believe that ROME did not know anything!... They had no idea this was happening in the U.S.. HA!... Trust me these people are some of the brightest, most educated, brilliant thinkers in the world... Idiots, they are not!

There is good reason why many, like me, have such a deep resentment toward the RCC (and those who gave them cover) Just read some of the books... they are very cheap, then you will be able to tell who is telling the full story. If you read 5 books and you think the are all "lying" then, that's your choice :)

Another reason I call the RCC ARROGANT, it's just like politics right now... The old party bosses are losing control because they can not control the flow of information anymore, same thing with the church... I think they think all they have to do is to let time pass... and all will be forgotten eventually. HA!... :)

American Bishops should be on their needs, yes, asking us for forgiveness for their failures, but more importantly DEMONSTRATING that they are cleaning themselves and the church from those errors...

BUT DO YOU GET THE FEELING that is what they are doing?... No... they still think they can control people they way they did it for centuries.

92 posted on 11/25/2009 11:43:51 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war (...Actually I heard something lately) ** DEAFENING **)
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