Posted on 11/24/2009 10:09:43 AM PST by NYer
ROFL! THAT IS FUNNY! :)
Don't try to understand me... I am peculiar in my beliefs I think... But they are deeply ingrained, it's hard to change.
You ought ought to se the problem: gays priest are subject to blackmail. They can be intimidated into not preaching Christ. I will stand with any gay priest who stands with the Church, but many will not. In many respects, though, they are no worse than priests ,who are secretly unbelievers When they are tested they betray the Church. Those of the order of Judas.
With that, I agree, but then, there's no need to be a priest if you can't manage to keep your vows, unless it serves as a camouflage. Otherwise, be what you are and be a good Christian. No heterosexual can run around diddling himself crazy and be a priest, either. It ain't fittin’. It just ain't fittin’. A VOW is a VOW.
The Church has no enemies! How about that. There are only truth tellers horrified by her evil deeds. How about that!
The Church has no enemies! How about that. There are only truth tellers horrified by her evil deeds. How about that!
Amen!
Be that as it may the Church has long had restrictions on who could be a priest.
For instance, if you were a bastard—I mean of illegitimate birth, it was rare for you to be made a priest. Exceptions were made. I think Erasmus was born out of wedlock. Until the ‘70s there was a real effort to weed homosexuals out. Then, after so many seminaries were left empty, many homosexuals were allowed into the priesthood. It was an experiment based in large part on the recommendations of mental health persons, party on the need to fill “slots” So we had a hollow priesthood just as in the ‘70s we had a hollow Army. The scandals showed what mischief “progressive” reforms can have.
Until he can keep his pants zipped, I suggest that is precisely where he should be. When he gets his silly self under control again, he’s as welcome back as rain in the drought of August.
Sorry, I did not understand you the first time (Through the eyes of its enemies, etc, it makes more sense now)... Still, I’m just tired. Let’s just give it a rest for now. Take care :)
Great! That's just great. I'd definitely use that as an argument. The last person consulted as to the social standing to which he would be relegated would have been the “bastard.” You know, there are so many jumping off places for that illogical theory, I don't know where to start. Fortunately, St. Joseph was closer to God than the Church has been in some instances.
You have to remember that to the rest of the unsaved world, our dear divinely begotten Christ looked like he was on the short side of the social scale as well.
Once upon a time, bastardy was a stigma that was worse than being a slave, although the two were related. To be without a father/mother is to be in social limbo. They only things that might save one was if the father was of high standing, so that he could get some support. That was he could pass as a Nephew of a priest, for instance. Gays are right about one thing, until recently to be a homosexual was to be an outcast like that. In today’s world, of course, things are topsy turvey. To be either he child of a single woman or gay, is be virtuous. I suspect that Mr. Obama has worked so hard to conceal his birth records, not because they would show he was not born in Hawaii but that his father was not married to his mother. For a white woman to be married to a black man in 1961 was pretty bad, but to be just his girl friend were even worse.
Not unless you think the Jewish calumny that he was the bastard child of Mary and a Roman soldier.
I don’t think so, but it’s amazing how many “religious” people of his day did. He “carried on” with saint and sinner alike and welcomed St. Dismas on the Cross. I’ve loved him since I could pronounce his name which, according to my mother, was at a year and a half. By age 2, I was the “hall monitor” for getting to Church on Sundays no matter how late they’d stayed out or up on Saturday night. I’ve never known a time when he was not my savior, and I hope I don’t live so long as to forget that he is.
It is little wonder that, in the Year of the Priest, the devil is attacking the priesthood. Those who are homosexual but chaste have nothing to fear. We all have our cross to bear.
We are all sinners. We all know that.
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