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Saturday night set for initial health care vote
AP ^ | 11/18/09 | AP

Posted on 11/19/2009 2:53:08 PM PST by mdittmar

WASHINGTON — The Senate will hold its first vote on health care legislation on Saturday night and Democrats will need 60 votes to prevail.

Majority Leader Harry Reid announced the schedule on the Senate floor, one day after unveiling a nearly $1 trillion bill to expand health coverage.

Republicans have vowed to block passage of the measure, and Democrats must put up 60 votes to clear the way for a lengthy debate next month.

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$1 trillion bill?
1 posted on 11/19/2009 2:53:09 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

sat night, again?


2 posted on 11/19/2009 2:53:44 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the obama doctrine: "let's not rush to any conclusions...")
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To: mdittmar

lieberman and a dem have stated their opposition.

THey’d need four repubs if that holds.

I don’t think they have it.


3 posted on 11/19/2009 2:55:39 PM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: mdittmar; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...
The list, ping
4 posted on 11/19/2009 2:55:52 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: mdittmar

Another Saturday Night Massacre!


5 posted on 11/19/2009 2:56:00 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (America, 1776 - 2009. R.I.P.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Remember when they were saying there wouldn’t be a vote til next year—I DIDN’T BELIEVE IT!!


6 posted on 11/19/2009 2:56:11 PM PST by samsmom
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To: mdittmar

The irony is palpable: the House did it in the middle of the night to pass it; and the Senate is doing it in the middle of the night to bury it.


7 posted on 11/19/2009 2:57:08 PM PST by StAnDeliver (\)
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To: mdittmar

Thanksgiving Saturday night, under cover of darkness...just like the criminals they are.


8 posted on 11/19/2009 2:57:21 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: Uncle Miltie

MAKE THEM READ THE BILL ON THE FLOOR!


9 posted on 11/19/2009 2:57:24 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: samsmom

Since Pelosi got hers done you KNOW Dingy was under SERIOUS pressure to get it done in the Senate.


10 posted on 11/19/2009 2:58:13 PM PST by conservativebabe (awaiting inspiration for a new tagline)
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To: StAnDeliver; samsmom; Uncle Miltie; Principled
ACTION ALERT ON THE SENATE NOW


A mere handful of wobbling Democratic Senators must be persuaded to stop, block, filibuster, the Health Care Reform. The following are considered key Senators: people who will go either way.

Reid has NO margin for error: he has to get ALL 60 Dems in order to put the bill on the floor.

Here's the key concept: Urge these Senators to Vote No on any "procedural vote" to "move to the health bill."

This will happen Friday or Saturday!
We don't want the bill even to make it to the floor!


Click! Click! Click!
Clickable U.S. Senate Constituent Message Links


Here’s info you can use if you need local constituent city and zip codes to get past their email message filters.


Ben Nelson (D NE)
Strong abortion opponent …Against Big Government, the "public option"…Fiscal conservative…Quote: "Faced with a decision about whether or not to move a bill that is bad, I won't vote to move it," he told ABC News. "For sure."
Use: City Omaha, Zip Code 68108 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (402)

Blanche Lincoln (D Ark)
Member of the Senate Finance Committee…Voted twice against making the "public option" part of the bill…Facing tough re-election, eager to display her conservative credentials in a state that was handily carried by Sen. John McCain… probably won't even agree to let the bill be debated on the Senate floor.
Use: City Little Rock, Zip Code 72291 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (501)

Joe Lieberman (I CT)
Independent but caucuses with the Democrats… has threatened to filibuster against public option. ..Quote: “I would use the power I have as a single senator to stop a final vote," he said in a recent televised interview.
Use City Hartford, Zip Code 06160 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (860)

Sen. Susan Collins (R Maine)
Could go either way…One of just three Republican lawmakers to cross party lines and vote for the Recovery Act (a.k.a. Federal Stimulus Package) …voted in favor of the Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act (H.R. 2)…but although pro-“reform”, she is on record as being against (quote) "billions of dollars in new taxes and fees that will drive up the cost of health insurance premiums." The whole bill should be re-written, Collins said, according to the New York Times.
Use City Augusta, Zip Code 04330 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (207)

Robert Casey (D PA)
On record as an opponent of abortion, from a very pro-life district…
Use City Erie, Zip Code 16501 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (814)

Evan Bayh (D IN)
Concerned about tax on medical-device makers in the current legislation…Indiana is the third-biggest state for jobs in the medical device sector, with currently some 63,000 Indiana residents working in that field….Quote: "I want to know what works for families and small businesses."
Bayh says medical devices fee would "seriously threaten thousands of American jobs and deter innovation in the industry."
Use city Indianapolis, Zip Code 46201 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (317)

Sen. Mary Landrieu (D LA)
Often “on the fence” about issues…Mixed voting record on Abortion, rated 43% by NARAL (pro-abortion) and 50% by NRLC (pro-life)…Favors letting some states try "trigger" mechanisms that would create a public option if residents don't have enough insurance choices (needs to be vehemently argued out of this fallback position)…Quote "I'm not for a government-run, national, taxpayer-subsidized plan, and never will be."
Use city New Orleans, Zip Code 70141 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (504)

Roland Burris (D IL)
A bit quirky and cantankerous, Burris' willingness to bend could prove crucial if Reid needs every possible vote in crafting a compromise, such as a national public option that is triggered if certain insurance availability targets aren't met. Or might favor a public option “offered by states, not feds.” Or “might” be pushed to favor no on the bill altogether. Push him to say NO, JUST NO! At age 72, Burris has virtually nothing to lose by defying his party's leaders and voting as he pleases.
Use city Kankakee, Zip Code 60901 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (815)


Here's how I do it. These are not phone calls, these are Constituent Message System e-mails. When you click on the link, fill out all the info with your real name and street address, but give the "local" city, state, and zip.

If they do not require a phone number, don't give a phone number. The "local" info just gets you through any possible local-constituent filter.

If you prefer to do the whole thing with your true address info, that's OK too. But sometimes when they have heavy traffic, they may filter for "local" and dump out-of-state messages. So this protects you from being dumped.

Reid does not plan on keeping the "Stupak-Pitts" pro-life amendment in the Senate version of the bill. He is expected to take up the House bill, and then replace it with a "Senate substitute" which will fund elective abortions. He is also in hot water about the "public option," with some Dem Senators saying they won't vote for the bill WITH public option, and some (on the Left) saying they won't vote for the bill WITHOUT it.

This is our chance to stop it dead.

11 posted on 11/19/2009 2:59:34 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. " George Orwell)
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To: Principled
-- lieberman and a dem have stated their opposition. --

Their opposition is to the so-called public option, and Lieberman has said that he would not let a bill that had that come up for a final vote.

However, I believe the vote this Saturday is on whether to take up a bill for debate, amendment, etc., and Lieberman has NOT expressed an intention to block taking up a bill for debate.

12 posted on 11/19/2009 2:59:39 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: conservativebabe

Since Pelosi got hers done you KNOW Dingy was under SERIOUS pressure to get it done in the Senate.
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He figures he’ll copy PelosLIE and see if it works for him...GRRRRR...


13 posted on 11/19/2009 2:59:55 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: mdittmar

Saturday night set for initial health care vote
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Midnight?

These MORONS.


14 posted on 11/19/2009 3:00:34 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Principled

They stated their support of a filibuster to end debate and move to a vote, i.e. cloture.

The vote Saturday is a motion to proceed, which is merely to bring the bill to the floor for consideration.

It’s hard to say whether or not it’ll pass, although one would think everyone would be on board here (all Dems plus 2 I’s anyway).


15 posted on 11/19/2009 3:01:42 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: samsmom

Remember when they were saying there wouldn’t be a vote til next year—I DIDN’T BELIEVE IT!!
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I think they were talking about the final vote in the Senate and this is the vote to pass it to the floor for debate...but I get your drift - can’t trust ‘em as far as you can throw ‘em.


16 posted on 11/19/2009 3:02:21 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

although one would think everyone would be on board here (all Dems plus 2 I’s anyway).
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You think Lieberman’s on board?


17 posted on 11/19/2009 3:03:46 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: mdittmar

If this bill passes WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE are now thier DEATH PANEL. You will all be on the unemployment line!


18 posted on 11/19/2009 3:05:07 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: SeattleBruce

If they get it passed on the floor to debate—it could be over.


19 posted on 11/19/2009 3:07:26 PM PST by samsmom
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To: mdittmar
Mark my words. This bill will pass on Saturday. There isn’t anything any of us can do about it. It will be rammed down our throats. As I said when the house bill passed. Our system is broken, only a complete breakdown of society and revolution will save it.
20 posted on 11/19/2009 3:08:09 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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