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Holder Defends Decision to Use U.S. Court for 9/11 Trial (Time for GOP to shut down the Government)
ny times ^ | 11/19/2009 | CHARLIE SAVAGE

Posted on 11/19/2009 3:43:20 AM PST by tobyhill

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Wednesday defended his decision to prosecute five men accused as co-conspirators in the Sept. 11 attacks in federal court in Manhattan, declaring that while he believes “we are at war,” that the venue was the best place to pursue the case against them.

Despite criticism that holding such a trial presented greater risks than a military commission, Mr. Holder argued that there were fewer differences between the rules for federal court and the military panels than some critics realize. And, he argued, the Southern District of New York has a long history of successfully prosecuting terrorism suspects.

“We need not cower in the face of this enemy,” Mr. Holder said, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee. “Our institutions are strong, our infrastructure is ready, our resolve is firm, and our people are ready.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/19/2009 3:43:20 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Holder is scum. Therefore, he is a liar, a traitor, a muslim lover, and the enemy.


2 posted on 11/19/2009 3:53:17 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
The GOPs only recourse at this time is to block any proposed Budget Continuing Resolution, especially to the Justice Department.
3 posted on 11/19/2009 3:55:53 AM PST by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
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To: tobyhill

By releasing bombers, and by bringings terrorists to NY
after they requested to die, Holder and Obama certainly
have a unique way of wresting death for America from
the jaw of victory.


4 posted on 11/19/2009 3:58:37 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Good stuff from Powerline:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/11/024984.php

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/11/024986.php


5 posted on 11/19/2009 4:04:12 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Thanks.


6 posted on 11/19/2009 4:04:48 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: tobyhill
I'm really curious about the motivation behind the decision to go the civilian court route for KSM and the other 9/11 plotters. Some possibilities:

Not the Bush Way. A play to the Muslim Community. A Bush-Cheney hit job during the trial. A play to the world community.

Given the backlash against the decision none of these really seem powerful enough to justify the political risk. I'm stumped.

7 posted on 11/19/2009 4:34:44 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Scotsman will be Free

“We need not cower in the face of this enemy,” Mr. Holder said, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee. “Our institutions are strong, our infrastructure is ready, our resolve is firm, and our people are ready.”

Really why is Chucky asking for 100 Million for NYC? Then as Greta says first motion will be can’t get a fair trial in NYC and its moved.


8 posted on 11/19/2009 4:35:24 AM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321

Move it to Chicago and hope that some of Obama’s good buds are called for jury duty.

There is no WAY I’d sit on that jury and risk my life for this political insanity knowing that some imam is going to issue a fatwah calling for the death of any flipping “infidel” jurist who votes to convict.


9 posted on 11/19/2009 4:45:59 AM PST by Nickname
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To: tobyhill

Defending the indefensible.


10 posted on 11/19/2009 4:49:42 AM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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To: tobyhill

In order to obtain a conviction, the rules of evidence will have to be suspended. Yet, both Holder and Obumbles have assured us of a conviction.

This country is at banana republic status.


11 posted on 11/19/2009 4:49:59 AM PST by CASchack
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I think they are doing this to establish a precedent that will carry this huge harm into the future, among other reasons.

The United States is now an occupied nation as surely as if we had been defeated in a war, and in a sense, we have been.

For now, the occupier’s think they can call the shots, and maybe they can.

But not for long.


12 posted on 11/19/2009 4:57:16 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: tobyhill
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34015727/ns/us_news-security/
Nov . 18, 2009
“WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama on Wednesday predicted that professed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be convicted and executed.....”

O Dumbo has just invited himself into testifying at the trial and, of course, set up the terrorist to go free.
During Aaron Burr's trial the defendant subpoenaed Jefferson's files trying to show the lack of independence of the executive (claimed he was being railroaded in current parlance), that Jefferson had “prejudged” the case as evidenced by his pronouncements. Jefferson claimed "Executive Privilege” which Marshall denied. Jefferson refused to provide the information and ultimately Burr walked because of some other decisions by Marshall.

13 posted on 11/19/2009 5:02:37 AM PST by BilLies
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To: CASchack
In order to obtain a conviction, the rules of evidence will have to be suspended.

I've been thinking the same thing. Is this a play by Obama to destroy the judicial system? I just don't see how this case even gets to the jury if they play this by the book. Pretty sure no one told KSM he had a right to an attorney. He was waterboarded, so given no right to remain silent. Case dismissed. Of course, they will take the occasion to drag the CIA and Bush/Cheney through the mud in trying to avoid dismissal.

You are only left to conclude one of two things; 1) Obama and company are incredibly stupid, or, 2) they are willfully destroying the institutions of America.

14 posted on 11/19/2009 5:07:09 AM PST by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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To: InterceptPoint
I'm really curious about the motivation behind the decision to go the civilian court route for KSM and the other 9/11 plotters.

The best explanation I've heard is that something like 20 detainees at Gitmo are currently being represented by Holder's law firm. This circus is nothing more than an opportunity for them to have these guys tried in Federal courts for decades -- and have the firm bill the U.S. government billions of dollars in legal fees.

New York City wants this because it allows them to hold their hand out to Uncle Sam and get billions of dollars to cover expenses related to security, police overtime, etc.

15 posted on 11/19/2009 5:22:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: ltc8k6
FTA:
“Lindsay Graham frequently drives us crazy, but it can't be denied that he has his moments. In today's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, he took Eric Holder to the woodshed:”

AND HOW! Graham showed him, and his affirmative action, fascist boss, to be the incompetent lawyers they are.

16 posted on 11/19/2009 5:22:57 AM PST by BilLies
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To: BilLies
This article compares obama's statements to Nixon's in the Manson trial. Obama, revisiting Nixon, says 9/11 suspect guilty

President Barack Obama appeared to be taking a page from Richard Nixon's playbook Wednesday when he seemed to declare the suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed guilty and deserving of the death penalty.

In Nixon's case, he pronounced cult leader Charles Manson guilty of several murders while Manson was being tried in a California state court for killing actress Sharon Tate and others.
............
17 posted on 11/19/2009 6:19:36 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Nickname

Being a juror would suck...you’d end up being “sentenced” to sequestration for probably around a year.


18 posted on 11/19/2009 6:22:28 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama is a DIC....... Ditherer-in-Chief)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I have heard the concept put forward that moving the GITMO prisoners to Illinois would create a bump in their economy. Locking these creatures up is an absolute necessity! Obviously, it will create jobs in Illinois.

Has anyone discussed the possibility that bringing KSM and his 4 flying monkeys to NYC will create a federal gravy train for public defenders? A few of whom I expect might happen to be related to the AG??

Coinkydink??

These scumbags that defend these terrorists will be getting federal paychecks in perpetuity, which, if you are NO a lawyer, means FOREVER!

That means they will be grafting our money until we either run out or decide to put these freaks in jail!!


19 posted on 11/19/2009 6:36:34 AM PST by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: BilLies
For anyone who hasn't seen Graham take Holder apart:

Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
20 posted on 11/19/2009 6:38:27 AM PST by chickadee
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