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Vatican Backs Obama’s Global Agenda
AIM ^ | 11/18 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 11/18/2009 10:31:49 AM PST by FromLori

Some pro-life Catholics reacted with shock to the news that the Vatican warmly greeted the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama, who is pro-abortion. They don't seem to understand that the Vatican and Obama agree on most major international issues. This is the untold story-how Obama and the Vatican accept major ingredients of what has been called a New World Order.

Another untold story is how, despite a disagreement over abortion, the U.S. Catholic Bishops and the Obama Administration agree on major aspects of so-called health care reform.

These topics are mostly taboo in the liberal and conservative media. Liberal and conservative Catholics alike would prefer not to discuss how the Catholic Church, here and abroad, functions like a liberal/left-wing political lobby.

But the facts should not be much of a surprise. A majority of Catholics voted for Obama, despite the fact that his pro-abortion record was well known, and when he was honored at Notre Dame, the premier Catholic University in the U.S., only about one-third of U.S. Catholic Bishops publicly objected.

The Nobel Committee's

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KEYWORDS: agenda; aim; anticatholic; antichristian; bho44; bhonwo; bhovatican; bravosierra; globalism; newworldorder; noaccuracyataim; nwo; obama; religiousleft; usccb; vatican
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To: RoadTest
Is it possible to say anything but praise for the Catholic Church without being called a bigot?

Sure. But when you subscribe to the centuries-old propaganda from Henrican England about the Catholic Church, you'll automatically become suspect.

41 posted on 11/18/2009 12:50:22 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: RoadTest

Hmm, let’s see opposition to abortion, opposition to same-sex “marriage,” opposition to communism (even to this day with the Venezuelan bishops standing up to Chavez)...shall I continue?


42 posted on 11/18/2009 12:52:37 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: FromLori; pissant; Petronski; Aggie Mama

You know, FromLori, I thought I smelled “troll” when you showed up on FR but gave it the old benefit of the doubt. Now I am certain.


43 posted on 11/18/2009 12:54:07 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us. Pray for America.)
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To: kosciusko51
This sounds like a subplot from a Tim LaHaye/Jerry Jenkins novel.

Really? I don't recall the world religious figure who sided with the antichrist in the "Left Behind" series being portrayed as the Pope -- or even Catholic, for that matter. IIRC, the robed poseur appointed to head the antichrist's lapdog global religious ecumenical .org was some other pubah randomly elevated to the post. Pls, correct me if my memory doesn't serve me well at this point.

44 posted on 11/18/2009 1:13:43 PM PST by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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To: HKMk23
I could be wrong; tt's been a long time ago that I read a couple of the books (never finished the series, but that is a different story).

What I remember is that there was a character who was part of the new religion that was to be given the title of "Pontifex Maximus", and that the new religion was headquartered in Vatican City.

45 posted on 11/18/2009 1:28:19 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: HKMk23
Ah, from wikipedia:

Enigma Babylon One World Faith

The "Global Community Faith" is established in the Vatican City after the Global Community was established in New Babylon. This new syncretistic, global religion accepts any religion and faith in the world, claiming equality. The "Global Community Faith" is quickly renamed "Enigma Babylon One World Faith" and Cardinal Peter Mathews is named Pontifex Maximus of Enigma Babylon One World Faith by Nicolae Carpathia.

46 posted on 11/18/2009 1:31:26 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: from occupied ga; NYer; Salvation; Petronski
Want to see the official Catholic line? Go read the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Fixed.

I will not shy away from admitting that we still have a house to clean with regards to the clergy that came about during the 60s/70s. But they're getting old and will move on. And as with all Christian Churches, the head is the prime target.

Or do you think only clergy who are Catholic are liberal?

47 posted on 11/18/2009 2:07:54 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
"Or do you think only clergy who are Catholic are liberal?"

Rick Warren is just as Globalist as Ratzinger is.

48 posted on 11/18/2009 2:11:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: FromLori

[[This is the untold story-how Obama and the Vatican accept major ingredients of what has been called a New World Order.]]

Hmmm- the beast and the church cozying up- seems like I’ve read somethign about htis somewhere- Heil Obama


49 posted on 11/18/2009 2:12:43 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Pyro7480

I think you have the wrong Freeper.


50 posted on 11/18/2009 2:20:13 PM PST by RoadTest ( For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. - I Cor. 3:11)
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To: RoadTest
Is it possible to say anything but praise for the Catholic Church without being called a bigot?

Yes.

The formula starts with this easy first step: DO NOT LIE.

51 posted on 11/18/2009 4:16:45 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: FromLori

The Catholic Church is nothing other than a bunch of leftists that don’t even stand up for life. Why is there a Catholic Church anymore?

How disgusting they are.


52 posted on 11/18/2009 4:20:39 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: kosciusko51

So it is. Sad, frankly.

I think the authors are dead wrong on that specific point, as well as their overall eschatological paradigm.

Given world events of the recent past, I sincerely doubt it’ll be angry Catholics goose-stepping to the antichrist’s marching band. The books have it that the Carpathia government HQ is the resurgent city of Babylon, but that really stretches the notion of a one-world religion centered out of The Vatican.

Reality seems more likely to be a one-world government AND religion centered out of — oh, I dunno, maybe — Babylon?

Look to the east, I say.


53 posted on 11/18/2009 5:41:52 PM PST by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Fixed.

No. You didn't fix it you attempted to suppress it. Catechism my aunt fanny. Catechisms do not address things like "health care" etc.

I despise liars, and in the category of liars I classify those who attempt to suppress the truth. Are you trying to tell me that the ACCB web site is not the official church line on things like wealth redistribution, gun control, etc.

Or do you think only clergy who are Catholic are liberal?

Seems to me that this is thread on the Catholic church, not other denominations. Are you trying to blow pink smoke here too?

54 posted on 11/18/2009 8:46:15 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: edcoil
"Maybe I learned it when the King of France appointed the French Popes.. Maybe how Reagen working with the Pope and church to end communism or how the church and government help in WWII and through the French revolution. Is your point that the church in its 1,000 of years of history is not connected - both good and bad. My point was power always tries to keep the people down no matter who it is."

You know, I used to puzzle at how the anti-Catholics will use any uninvestigated or shabbily investigated story, any straw man, any ambiguity or any outright lie to attack the Catholic Church with. I don't wonder anymore, I just accept that the Church will always be attacked, and she will always prevail.

Now I hear that the Kings of France "appointed" the Popes and those Popes likewise oppressed the people; I just love it. Normally I hear just the opposite from the Pope haters, that the Kings of Europe were subject to the Popes and did all sorts of evil at the Popes' command. You can't have it both ways, but go right ahead anway, you'll just find out one day how paranoid and ignorant you really are.

And did Pope JPII have a big hand in bringing down the Soviet Empire? Yes! He traveled to Poland and other Soviet satellites and the people came out in massive crowds everywhere he went to hear him speak of human rights and dignity. This emboldened those people to push back against Soviet force, eventually bringing an end to the Soviet Empire. And Pope JPII "oppressed the masses" how?

55 posted on 11/21/2009 5:42:48 AM PST by jiminycricket000
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To: Petronski

“Cliff Kincaid has an anti-Catholic fetish.”

I chose to leave the Methodist church because their Council of Bishops has become a council of Communism. Many others have as well. You are very quick to condemn those who criticize the socialist minions in your church. Do you believe they aren’t really socialists? Do you believe they are harmless?


56 posted on 11/21/2009 7:23:54 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial
You are very quick to condemn those who criticize the socialist minions in your church.

Quite the contrary. I'm very slow to condemn Kincaid, only after observing his attitudes toward the Catholic Church over time.

57 posted on 11/21/2009 8:55:22 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: shortstop

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-tv-host-challenges-bishops/


58 posted on 11/21/2009 9:08:03 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Aggie Mama

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-tv-host-challenges-bishops/


59 posted on 11/21/2009 9:08:27 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Petronski

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-tv-host-challenges-bishops/


60 posted on 11/21/2009 9:09:10 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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