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Christianity Caused The Housing Crisis
http://www.radioviceonline.com ^ | November 13, 2009 | Jim Vicevich

Posted on 11/13/2009 7:55:16 AM PST by Biggirl

Is Christianity the new whipping kid?

Ok … now they’re just sounding stupid. The media. Specifically, the Atlantic. From the Morning Joe, author Hanna Rosin tries to link the housing crisis with Mega church preaching …

“Just go out and seize that house, the money will come … and this kind of intersected with the housing crisis.”

I have not read the article, not sure I need to, but at least in this interview she quantifies nothing, as in the number of foreclosures vs the number of people who attend these churches. We sort of. Her proof is the location of the highest number of foreclosures coincides with the location of the mega churches.

Make sure you get to the where CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo takes a whack at her theory. I am not going to give it away. It comes at 1:30.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianity; economy; hannarosin; housing
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Shaking my head.
1 posted on 11/13/2009 7:55:17 AM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl
Clearly Bush, Global Warming, and Christianity have been acting in collusion and creating all sorts of trouble.

Ya know, I think a lot of families are going to have interesting conversations around the Thanksgiving table.

2 posted on 11/13/2009 7:57:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Biggirl

Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, and others involved are Christians? Go figure.....


3 posted on 11/13/2009 7:58:59 AM PST by cranked
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To: Biggirl

It seems as if “The Atlantic” is at the epicenter of the new madness. I haven’t read anything in it for decades, but it used to be a literary magazine.

What happened? It reads like the Obama Communist Rag.


4 posted on 11/13/2009 7:59:54 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Biggirl
Hanna Rosin positive proof that not all nuts are found on are near trees.
5 posted on 11/13/2009 8:00:29 AM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Biggirl

It truly is puzzling to me how this administration can elevate Islam and do all they can to protect it. Yet Christianity isn’t quite special enough in their minds to protect. In fact, my Catholic Church, and even our Boy Scout troop were audited for the first time in memory this past year. The Catholic church in D.C. is being targeted for not allowing same sex marriages. Here’s an idea, Why doesn’t the government get Islam to grant same sex marriages? How come that has not happened? Huh?


6 posted on 11/13/2009 8:01:34 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: cranked

Trust me, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are Christians in name only. They know the Bible about as well as they know the Constitution.


7 posted on 11/13/2009 8:03:58 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

Amen to what you have said. When I had heard President Obama’s speech during the special memorial service a few days ago, at least the bits and pieces of it, he says NO RELIGION condones violence. He forgets that Islam blesses and commands violence against non-Muslims via the Koran and the Hiadiths. In other words talks from both sides of the mouth!


8 posted on 11/13/2009 8:08:21 AM PST by Biggirl (Political Correctness KILLS! =^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
Well, there's a germ of truth to this. But where it goes wrong is in generalizing too much. The sad fact is that some popular preaching emphasizes using a twisted kind of "faith" to obtain materialistic goodies in the here and now. (I would not call it genuine Christianity. It's a devilish counterfeit.)
Western culture is on a materialistic binge and has been for years. We see it in a lot of ways: "name it and claim it" preaching, "me-centered" pseudo-spirituality, and an ever-increasing desire for benefits and bailouts from the government.
9 posted on 11/13/2009 8:13:22 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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She isn't criticizing Christianity. Neither is she blaming Christianity for the housing crisis. She is criticizing the so-called "prosperity gospel" promulgated by preachers who wish to attract well-heeled or even wannabe well-heeled attendees to their churches.

The prosperity gospel is not Christianity. It is a modern-day meld between hedonism and pseudo-Christianity. It teaches that if you are faithful, God will reward you with riches. So to prove that you are faithful, you display wealth to your fellow believers.

She said nothing in this interview that a bible-believing Christian would disagree with.

10 posted on 11/13/2009 8:16:15 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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....However.... the notion that Barney Frank is somehow a “christian” is one that is easily dismissed.


11 posted on 11/13/2009 8:19:30 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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Typical anti-Christian humbug: find a sect that calls itself Christian and misbehaves in some way, then blame Christianity for the misbehavior.

I have no doubt that folks who fell prey to the heretical ‘prosperity Gospel’ teachings that afflict many protestant ‘megachurches’, were more likely than the populace at large to take out unsustainable mortgages—trusting God would provide. (He did: He provided a lesson in not getting attached to the things of this world, which is passing away.)

But as an Orthodox Christian (and I have little doubt that my separated brethren among the Latins, non-Chalcedonians, protestant denominations that still hold to the theological stances of their 16th century founders all agree with me on this) the ‘prosperity Gospel’ is not Christianity, but a departure from Christianity.

And, the notion that the greater likelihood of ‘prosperity Gospel’ heretics to have gotten into unsustainable mortgages is the cause of the banking crisis is risibly absurd.


12 posted on 11/13/2009 8:22:41 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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In the heydey of the housing bubble, I lived next to a Pentecostal who flipped houses.

All of her house conquests were posted on a wall and she gave them spiritual names.

She also was rambling on about karma one day (I recognized it as such, but she was speaking of the concept as being from the Bible).

At any rate, she and her poor family are a few hundred thousand underwater now and her kids had to be pulled out of their Christian school.


13 posted on 11/13/2009 8:25:29 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Biggirl
Christianity is not a Cargo Cult.
14 posted on 11/13/2009 8:26:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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Folks, be sure not to overreact against Muslims.

Folks, be sure to overreact against Christians.


15 posted on 11/13/2009 8:37:50 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"...I think a lot of families are going to have interesting conversations around the Thanksgiving table...

Not my family; they are liberal tools, and I make it a point to say little or nothing that would stoke the fires of their ignorance. They are past the dialog phase.

They would rather a person of color break into their house and kill them than fight back and be called a racist. It's that bad.

The only option for me was to move to Texas so I would be free to pursue the goal of being an unemasculated male.

16 posted on 11/13/2009 8:37:57 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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“Her proof is the location of the highest number of foreclosures coincides
with the location of the mega churches.”

If these were mega-churches espousing “the prosperity gospel”,
this is not a totally bankrupt theory. And at the same time, it
surely is a tunnel-vision view...plenty of agnostics and atheists probably
bit on that lovely, but rotten, apple of subprime loans.

After Bill Clinton threatened banks (we won’t let you expand nationally,
we’ll make your life hell) to make home loans to people that were
unlikely to repay...folks steeped in “the prosperity gospel” probably
thought this was the answer to their prayers.


17 posted on 11/13/2009 8:40:45 AM PST by VOA
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To: Cicero
Atlantic taken over by loony PC-left just like Scientific American. It used to be a decent science magazine. And now? PC-rag pushing likes of Al Gore and radical environmental agenda. PC-rag in scientific guise.

These PC-left infiltrate any decent magazine, use it brand appeal or credibility to push their political agenda. Magazine's original topic, literature, science, or religion, are just rendered as a mere cover to lure gullible readers. They turn all magazines into zombies. Actually they do the same to all humanity/social science program in colleges, too.

These leftie nuts are creating cultural wasteland. They are the plague on mankind.

18 posted on 11/13/2009 8:48:46 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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Oh Geez, the same psychological warfare to wear us down.
19 posted on 11/13/2009 8:56:43 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: agrarianlady
At any rate, she and her poor family are a few hundred thousand underwater now and her kids had to be pulled out of their Christian school.

That is such a sad story. It is really disappointing when a believer buys into the silly notion of "God wants you rich." It is true that God does bless the believing community with a few wealthy, but generous souls. However the danger of believing that God wants ALL Christians to be loaded with money is that those people with whom God has entrusted with the gift of poverty are viewed as somehow "unspiritual" and are relegated to the back seats (metaphorically speaking) of the churches.

Another danger is that in an effort to appear wealthy, and thus "spiritual," many believers go deep into debt in order to afford the clothes, cars, houses that make them appear "blessed."

Rosin's observations of this prosperity gospel are completely valid. And rather than accusing her of criticizing Christianity, we believers would do well to engage in a little self-examination here.

20 posted on 11/13/2009 9:22:19 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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