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Barack Obama 'to reject Afghanistan war options in favour of plan with clear exit strategy'
Telegraph ^ | 12 Nov, 2009 | Ben Farmer

Posted on 11/12/2009 9:53:34 AM PST by XHogPilot

Barack Obama is to reject all of the options outlined for increasing troop numbers in Afghanistan in favour of revised plans which include a clear exit strategy, it has been claimed. The report came from a senior administration official close to the high-level deliberations Mr Obama is holding with his war cabinet over the refocusing of the Afghan war effort. The President is said to have raised questions at a meeting on Wednesday that could alter both the size of any possible troop increase and the length of time they are in the country before they can hand over to responsibility to the Afghan government. According to US reports, it is not the first time he has asked for the four options thought to have been presented to him to be rewritten and he is putting up considerable resistance to the strategy put forward by the Gen Stanley McChrystal, the US Nato commander in Afghanistan, to increase troop numbers by 40,000 for a counterinsurgency drive. Other options on the table include sending between 10,000 and 15,000 troops who will focus on training Afghan forces. The latest development came as it emerged that the US Ambassador in Kabul, Gen Karl Eikenberry, has told Mr Obama that a surge of troops was "not a good idea" unless the Afghan government suceeded in reining in the corruption which spurred the Taliban insurgency. Gen Eikenberry, a former military commander in Afghanistan, reportedly cited the erratic behaviour of Hamid Karzai, who was sworn in as President of Afghanistan after his rival Abdullah Abdullah pulled out of a second round of elections because of ballot-rigging concerns.

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To: RonnieFan

” It is not when we leave; it is how we leave; my preference... victorious!”

Define “victory”.


21 posted on 11/12/2009 10:09:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (We Are Traveling in the Footsteps of Those Who've Come Before)
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To: agere_contra

My solution is to pull them out and make that country a mass of glass slag.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 10:10:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: XHogPilot

Translated:

The WH cannot convince ANY of our European or Pacific allies to contribute ANY more forces, to the contrary, most of these allies are starting to withdraw forces or are scheduled to do so very soon. I can’t name a single foreign leader that Bambi has a close working relationship with, not one. Bush and Blair were tight, Reagan and Thatcher were tight, but now, forget it. I think most foreign leaders, both friends and enemies, privately believe Bambi’s a joke.


23 posted on 11/12/2009 10:11:52 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

This sounds a whole lot like what our government said about the Diem government. I dare say that the Karzai government is no more corrupt than the state of New Jersey or Chicago. Just an excuse for breaking promises.


24 posted on 11/12/2009 10:12:04 AM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Jim Noble

I would define Victory in Afghanistan as “a country which acts as a continual bloody flytrap for the most violent 1% of Muslims from the entire world, while the heart of the country becomes Westernised.”

We can do that standing on our heads: - if our soldiers are allowed to shoot back at the people shooting at them.


25 posted on 11/12/2009 10:13:04 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: XHogPilot
Option Surrender Monkey, thy name is 0.
26 posted on 11/12/2009 10:14:59 AM PST by mojito
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To: XHogPilot
I'm predicting a TV address from the WH with zero wearing a sweater before christmas.
27 posted on 11/12/2009 10:15:20 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: moose2004
I can’t name a single foreign leader that Bambi has a close working relationship

Zelaya!

Oh, and Raila Odinga.

28 posted on 11/12/2009 10:15:45 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Jim Noble

Define “victory”. Okay. It is when leaving doesn’t require a strategy.


29 posted on 11/12/2009 10:18:25 AM PST by RonnieFan
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To: XHogPilot

Very well said, but I’m not sure Mama Obama can explain your third paragraph to her arrested adolescent husband.


30 posted on 11/12/2009 10:19:18 AM PST by JohnQ1 (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: RonnieFan
It is when leaving doesn’t require a strategy.

That's pretty good.

31 posted on 11/12/2009 10:21:32 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: XHogPilot

Polls!


32 posted on 11/12/2009 10:22:59 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“He’s not gonna do that. He’s gonna blame it on Afgani corruption. It won’t be his fault!”

Yep, the White House and the media have been pumping this Afghan corruption storyline for weeks.


33 posted on 11/12/2009 10:23:08 AM PST by Califelephant
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To: Gaffer

In the past century, the best examples of enemies reconstructing to form stable societies are WW II Japan and Germany (West). What they have in common is that, at the end of hostilities, there was no doubt who was defeated. Anything short of that seems to miss the point of a war.


34 posted on 11/12/2009 10:23:15 AM PST by organicchemist
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To: agere_contra

I would define Victory in Afghanistan as “a country which acts as a continual bloody flytrap for the most violent 1% of Muslims from the entire world, while the heart of the country becomes Westernised.”

We can do that standing on our heads: - if our soldiers are allowed to shoot back at the people shooting at them.


sorry but this is impossible. even in the wildest dreams. Afghanistan will never be something like a westernized country. there for “we” would have to kill every single Man, Woman and kid there and then replace everyone with someone from “europe” or the US. and even then this new “westenized” country would be the “new Israel”.


35 posted on 11/12/2009 10:27:12 AM PST by darkside321
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To: Gaffer

Agree for all of the reasons you said and because we are also helping pacify Russia’s southern flank.

Our people are way too precious for that.


36 posted on 11/12/2009 10:29:41 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: Red Badger
This is their standard exit strategy.


37 posted on 11/12/2009 10:31:26 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: XHogPilot

We could not stabilize that part of the world if we spent another 8 years or 800 years, so long as Islam poisons their minds. The only solution is so extreme that I won’t even bother to mention it.


38 posted on 11/12/2009 10:33:00 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is a parasite that kills the host)
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To: XHogPilot

Stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.


39 posted on 11/12/2009 10:34:44 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: MGMSwordsman

Tell me again how this prick got elected?

White Guilt, that idiot McCain, and financial sabotage carried out by George Soros (in no particular order)


40 posted on 11/12/2009 10:35:45 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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