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1 posted on 11/10/2009 10:02:51 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Catholic bump!


2 posted on 11/10/2009 10:05:23 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish

I would hope Christians part more with Mormons than on this issue.


3 posted on 11/10/2009 10:06:09 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Steelfish

Read Romans — Chapter 1

and then reference it back to the book of Leviticus.

Right there in the Bible!


4 posted on 11/10/2009 10:06:42 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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** do not do violence to the institution of marriage,” Michael Otterson, the director of public affairs for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saintssaid.**

Yet actions such as this only add to the degradation of the family. This is sad.


5 posted on 11/10/2009 10:08:18 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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WOW! Why do they have special privileges? Shouldn’t it be illegal to discriminate against anyone no matter the color, religion, or anything else. Are white straight people the only people that you cannot be cited for discriminating against? Is Utah going liberal or only Salt Lake City?


6 posted on 11/10/2009 10:10:51 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Steelfish

Pretty sad when Utah gives in to the gay agenda.


10 posted on 11/10/2009 10:19:37 PM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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How weak are the Mormons becoming? They give in to the gay lobby. For what?


11 posted on 11/10/2009 10:19:40 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (A good Blue Dog is an unelected Blue Dog. Ditto Rino's!)
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I didn’t realize the slopes of the Wasatch were all that slippery.

Sorry to see them go in the incrementalist direction.

Pretty soon they will be 99.9% of the way to approving gay marriage and then the remaining tenth of a percent will be merely a technicality.


15 posted on 11/10/2009 10:41:05 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Steelfish
I'm shocked but then, again, it's good to have them exposed for their true beliefs.

Mark 4:22
For whatever is hidden is meant to be disclosed, and whatever is concealed is meant to be brought out into the open.
Matthew 10:26 "Therefore do not fear them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known.
Luke 8:17 "For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light.
Luke 12:2 "But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.
16 posted on 11/10/2009 10:41:14 PM PST by presently no screen name
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I read this as Mormons being more forgiving neighbors than Catholics. AND Mormons taking my kind of Libertarian stand in defense of the word “Marriage”.

They [the Mormons} won’t Force their Definitions on Gays, Nor will they let Gays corrupt their Definitions. Their respect for Individuality impresses Me.

Me? I was raised Unitarian [B4 the merger with the Universalists]... I’m happier having a Mormon missionary appear at my door than a Jehovah’s Witness.


18 posted on 11/10/2009 10:45:51 PM PST by PizzaDriver ( on)
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Sounds like some gay conspirators blackmailed some big Mormons into submission.
19 posted on 11/10/2009 10:50:49 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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While the country goes to godless amoral Socialism, We conservatives/christians are bickering and nit-picking. We have to put our differences aside people and unify for the sake of our great land.


25 posted on 11/10/2009 11:15:47 PM PST by usacon (I love the USA.)
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Seriously, people?

You believe that the Church supporting ordinances against housing and employment discrimination are somehow a weakening of their position?

The Church is interested in protecting the sanctity of marriage, not in promoting discrimination. I don't see a problem with that.

27 posted on 11/10/2009 11:22:51 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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So, Gay polygamy...is that all right too? Why not?


80 posted on 11/11/2009 4:02:14 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Steelfish

Yes, and Catholic politicians in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut all voted for, and signed into law, similar anti-discrimination laws years ago with barely a peep from the church.


82 posted on 11/11/2009 4:37:38 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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"The church supports these ordinances because they are fair and reasonable and do not do violence to the institution of marriage," Michael Otterson, the director of public affairs for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saintssaid.


 
 
 
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
  9.  Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
 10.  nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
 11.  And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
 
 
Do not be deceived: INDEED!!!!
 



 

Genesis 13:13       Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed,
all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight?
Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends.
Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



 

But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape.....


104 posted on 11/12/2009 3:26:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I’m shocked! I had no idea that Catholics would support stuff like firing somebody for being gay, or denying them raises and promotions for being gay and stuff like that.

If you can’t support people’s legitimate rights being defended when the person happens to be gay, then you really are a homophobe. The church is showing they are against gay marriage, not gay people.


148 posted on 11/14/2009 5:47:21 AM PST by Grig
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